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In reply to the discussion: This is How Citizens United Dies-Feds: Mexican tycoon exploited super PACs to influence US elections [View all]starroute
(12,977 posts)18. The Supreme Court already ruled against foreign corporate donations
http://www.mintz.com/newsletter/2012/Advisories/1584-0112-NAT-GOV/index.htm
January 13 2012
Supreme Court Affirms Ban on Campaign Contributions and Independent Expenditures by Foreign Nationals
Foreign citizens who are legally living in the United States have no constitutional right to spend or contribute money in connection with U.S. elections for any government office, the Supreme Court reaffirmed in a one-sentence order this week. Without elaboration or any noted dissents, the Supreme Court upheld the lower-court decision of Bluman v. FEC that it is constitutional for Congress to bar foreign citizens legally living in the United States from monetarily participating in the campaign process. In so doing, the Supreme Court made clear that Citizens United v. FEC, the Courts controversial opinion from January 2010, does not extend beyond United States citizens (including corporations).
In Bluman v. FEC, Ben Bluman, a Canadian lawyer working in New York, and Anaseth Steiman, a Canadian-Israeli dual citizen doing a medical residency in New York, challenged the constitutionality of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (the BCRA), which expanded the prohibition on foreign nationals financial influence on U.S. elections by banning foreign nationals from making express-advocacy expenditures (often called independent expenditures) or campaign contributions to political parties, candidates, or PACs. Before a three-judge panel of the District Court for the District of Columbia, Bluman and Steiman argued that foreign citizens lawfully residing in the United States have a First Amendment right to contribute to candidates and political parties and to make express-advocacy expenditures.
The D.C. District Court disagreed. Relying on Supreme Court precedent denying foreign citizens certain rights and privileges enjoyed by U.S. citizens (including voting, serving as jurors, working as police or probation officers, or working as public school teachers), the court concluded that it is fundamental to the definition of our national political community that foreign citizens do not have a constitutional right to participate in, and thus may be excluded from, activities of democratic self-government. For this reason, the court found that the United States has a compelling interest for purposes of First Amendment analysis in limiting participation of foreign citizens in activities of American democratic self-government, and in thereby preventing foreign influence over the U.S. political process.
January 13 2012
Supreme Court Affirms Ban on Campaign Contributions and Independent Expenditures by Foreign Nationals
Foreign citizens who are legally living in the United States have no constitutional right to spend or contribute money in connection with U.S. elections for any government office, the Supreme Court reaffirmed in a one-sentence order this week. Without elaboration or any noted dissents, the Supreme Court upheld the lower-court decision of Bluman v. FEC that it is constitutional for Congress to bar foreign citizens legally living in the United States from monetarily participating in the campaign process. In so doing, the Supreme Court made clear that Citizens United v. FEC, the Courts controversial opinion from January 2010, does not extend beyond United States citizens (including corporations).
In Bluman v. FEC, Ben Bluman, a Canadian lawyer working in New York, and Anaseth Steiman, a Canadian-Israeli dual citizen doing a medical residency in New York, challenged the constitutionality of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (the BCRA), which expanded the prohibition on foreign nationals financial influence on U.S. elections by banning foreign nationals from making express-advocacy expenditures (often called independent expenditures) or campaign contributions to political parties, candidates, or PACs. Before a three-judge panel of the District Court for the District of Columbia, Bluman and Steiman argued that foreign citizens lawfully residing in the United States have a First Amendment right to contribute to candidates and political parties and to make express-advocacy expenditures.
The D.C. District Court disagreed. Relying on Supreme Court precedent denying foreign citizens certain rights and privileges enjoyed by U.S. citizens (including voting, serving as jurors, working as police or probation officers, or working as public school teachers), the court concluded that it is fundamental to the definition of our national political community that foreign citizens do not have a constitutional right to participate in, and thus may be excluded from, activities of democratic self-government. For this reason, the court found that the United States has a compelling interest for purposes of First Amendment analysis in limiting participation of foreign citizens in activities of American democratic self-government, and in thereby preventing foreign influence over the U.S. political process.
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This is How Citizens United Dies-Feds: Mexican tycoon exploited super PACs to influence US elections [View all]
kpete
Feb 2014
OP
I like your spirit -- Refreshing counterbalance to my "discouraged old fart" tendencies these days
Armstead
Feb 2014
#8
To say nothing of the trend in certain countries for people to come to the US specifically
JDPriestly
Feb 2014
#41
I am confident this court would say no to corporate speech where foreign nationals are the source
Vattel
Feb 2014
#12
The relevant court remedy would not be a fine but an order that stops the message
Vattel
Feb 2014
#31
You know, I hate to say it but sometimes you have to use people's irrational fears against
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#6
So what? Why would US based corps. have more of a right to buy election than foreign ones?
Romulox
Feb 2014
#11
That ruling is not consistent with either Citizens or previous Free Speech jurisprudence.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#20
People present in the US have virtually all the rights of citizens. Certainly 1st Amendment rights.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#35
I appreciate the feedback. Wasn't Citizens United about making a movie, though? nt
Romulox
Feb 2014
#38
So it seems anyone legally present in the US can spend unlimited money on such activity. nt
Romulox
Feb 2014
#81
I would also add that it is trivial for a foreign corporation to form a subsidiary in the US. nt
Romulox
Feb 2014
#21
According to this article, it was Alito. This article reflects Roberts' reaction to the issue.
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2014
#62
Cons and the tea party type believe it is fine to hide your sources of campaign funding and
Fred Sanders
Feb 2014
#27
We all knew this was going on, it's nice to see the truth rolling out. K & R
Firebrand Gary
Feb 2014
#34
Remember Alito shaking his head and mouthing no when the president brought this up in the sotu
kimbutgar
Feb 2014
#39
Corporations are associations of individuals, therefore have speech rights under the First Amendment
Vox Moi
Feb 2014
#51
Surely the felonious ones could never have dreamed their majority decision opened
indepat
Feb 2014
#66
Aren't they all foreign corporations now, headquartered in the Bahamas or Caymans?
tclambert
Feb 2014
#68