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Beringia

(5,439 posts)
17. East Hampton
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:59 PM
Feb 2014

is asking the city to do studies and get facts. The town was in fact scheduling a hunt for the hell of it, without data to back up the plan. The lawsuit said the town had to provide data.

Also studies have shown there is no correlation between deer population and Lyme disease, it depends on rodents.

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http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/East-End/48995/Protesters-Gather-In-East-Hampton-Village-To-Oppose-Deer-Culling

Comment by Highhatsize

The anecdotal report to which you refer involved extirpation, not reduction. Where deer ARE present, an increase or decrease in their numbers does not correlate with an increase or decrease in Lyme Disease. However, such a correlation DOES exist INVERSELY with the population of foxes, strongly suggesting that it is the rodent population rather than the deer population that is responsible for spreading Lyme Disease to people. Studies have found that four small mammals, including the white-footed mouse, account for 90% of infected ticks.

to HamptonsBornandRaised:

“Pennsylvania-based Erie Insurance, which has analyzed deer-vehicle collision data in the state for more than a decade, found that the opening day and opening Saturday of deer hunting season are '[t]wo of the most dangerous days to drive.' According to the Missouri Insurance Information Service, increased deer activity associated with hunting is a 'major factor' in the rise in deer-vehicle collisions in the last three months of the year. With more people (hunters) in the woods, deer are spooked out of wooded areas—often out onto the road.” - PETA

to dnice:

It's a fact. There is simply no correlation. Cf. "Lyme Disease: The Ecology of a Complex System" by Dr. Richard Ostfeld. This study, which synthesizes most of the studies on the topic of the deer population and its relationship to Lyme Disease, found no correlation.

The simple truth is that mistaken “common sense” and the misnomering of the “deer” tick have engendered the widespread erroneous belief that deer are responsible for the Lyme Disease epidemic

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They are destructive (rats with hooves) when they overpopulate an area badtoworse Feb 2014 #1
Culling Beringia Feb 2014 #2
Any peer reviewed citations? Any proof that sterilization works and is cost effective? badtoworse Feb 2014 #4
Good because I'm pissed off with you...the karma evens out...nt joeybee12 Feb 2014 #7
Bow hunting JJChambers Feb 2014 #37
Contraception Beringia Feb 2014 #10
$66 per deer and 150 were treated? We have thousands in northern NJ badtoworse Feb 2014 #15
Are you talking about a rural population? Beringia Feb 2014 #20
I'm talking about northern NJ, it's practically all suburban badtoworse Feb 2014 #23
So you are a bow-hunter who wants to expand bow-hunting? Beringia Feb 2014 #25
Personally, I'm more of a bird hunter and I use a shotgun when I hunt... badtoworse Feb 2014 #35
A doe-buck seperator? Seriously? NickB79 Feb 2014 #38
the rut Beringia Feb 2014 #41
Fire Island is, well, an island NickB79 Feb 2014 #32
Good grief. HappyMe Feb 2014 #5
Sarcasm, I hope... joeybee12 Feb 2014 #8
No, not sarcasm. HappyMe Feb 2014 #9
For city deer Beringia Feb 2014 #12
City deer? HappyMe Feb 2014 #14
Pay for what Beringia Feb 2014 #18
I don't see how contraception will be administered. HappyMe Feb 2014 #21
Porcine Zona Pellucida Vaccine Beringia Feb 2014 #24
It's been quite some time HappyMe Feb 2014 #26
I was quoting Fitzpatrick, the guy who does the PZP Beringia Feb 2014 #27
Ah, okay. HappyMe Feb 2014 #29
Contracepton as a solution to an over population of deer is ridiculous. Jenoch Feb 2014 #30
And you know that they are overpopulating this area? joeybee12 Feb 2014 #6
They are overpopulating where I live and many other suburban areas in the northeast badtoworse Feb 2014 #11
East Hampton Beringia Feb 2014 #17
I'll go with these guys. Ostfeld's assertion doesn't pass the smell test. badtoworse Feb 2014 #36
when the alternative is widescale starvation amongst the population . . . geek tragedy Feb 2014 #3
These are city areas Beringia Feb 2014 #13
I know. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #16
Then what is your statement for Beringia Feb 2014 #19
to note that the reason for the overpopulation is the removal of predators nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #22
We better kill them so they don't die Doremus Feb 2014 #28
"Where are all these dead deers you speak of? " NickB79 Feb 2014 #34
Sorry, not even close to being the epidemic of starved deer the poster spoke of. Doremus Feb 2014 #39
Deer are ravaging Minnesota forests NickB79 Feb 2014 #31
Deer populations Beringia Feb 2014 #40
Because clearly, man has never been a natural predator of deer NickB79 Feb 2014 #33
I like how the OP uses imagery of deer in spots 'fawns' to solicit sympathy/outrage... Earth_First Feb 2014 #42
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