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65. EDIT: He Who Shall Not Be Named

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Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:41 PM

Feb 2014

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America Is Preparing to Murder Its 5th Citizen by 'Remote Assassination' [View all] xchrom Feb 2014 OP

Do you have the link to the AP article JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #1

a google search doesn't show the AP article xchrom Feb 2014 #2

Obama administration mulls lethal strike on American in Pakistan struggle4progress Feb 2014 #97

Source: U.S. debating targeted killing of American terror suspect overseas struggle4progress Feb 2014 #98

White House officials weigh drone attack on American suspect struggle4progress Feb 2014 #100

Thanksi JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #105

Hey, he's been accused. What else is needed before executing him? Scuba Feb 2014 #3

If they say he's guilty that good enough for me. reusrename Feb 2014 #9

Who needs due process when we have the word of "they"? Lol. whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #19

Yeah, who needs actual proof of guilt? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #46

This offer void where prohibited tomg Feb 2014 #4

IMO Obama has never shown any respect for or understaning of the Constitution bowens43 Feb 2014 #5

Yeah, he lost that credential when he declared Manning guilty. Scuba Feb 2014 #10

yes he did! wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #55

Habeas corpus remains dead. Fearless Feb 2014 #6

If a Republican president was about to do this, it would have 200 recs before bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #7

Are you ProSense Feb 2014 #13

Was Bush president in 2011? We don't have to wonder what the reaction on the Left would be sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #16

He was in 2003. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #18

Your link was to one of your own OPs from 2011. Which didn't match at all, the sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #21

Thanks Obama. n/t PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #8

He could always turn himself in for a trial. nt hack89 Feb 2014 #11

Who is he?? Do you know? sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #17

No - but the US government does. hack89 Feb 2014 #23

How do you know any of this? I don't know that such a person even exists. The Government has sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #47

I am saying that, if true, he should be afforded the opportunity to surrender hack89 Feb 2014 #49

No one has to TRY to be outraged about just what you stated. You outlined the sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #70

ok. nt hack89 Feb 2014 #71

Hell he probably doesn't even know who Al CIAduh is. n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #58

Complaint! L0oniX Feb 2014 #39

Where is the arrest warrant? NCTraveler Feb 2014 #56

Sure - we can do all that first. hack89 Feb 2014 #57

Still don't think he is fair game. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #59

In principle, if he is actively waging war against America hack89 Feb 2014 #61

I do respect your opinion and am not all that far off. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #63

The definition of "waging war" has become as nebulous and useless as that of "terrorism". Maedhros Feb 2014 #64

ok. nt hack89 Feb 2014 #69

If trust has to enter into this extreme sanction of a US citizen.... Pholus Feb 2014 #77

"He could turn himself in for trial . . ." markpkessinger Feb 2014 #88

And the people who operate torture dungeons where even those we admit are innocent JoeyT Feb 2014 #112

Bush and Cheney can always turn themselves in for a trial too for war crimes frwrfpos Feb 2014 #92

the term American citizen is dubious. It has long been established that if you leave the US and take okaawhatever Feb 2014 #12

Glad your faith-based reasoning keeps your mind at ease whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #15

Who is this person you are confidently condemning to death? A 16 year old teenage American maybe? sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #20

Incorrect. You must take up arms against USA with the INTENTION of relinquishing US nationality. Vattel Feb 2014 #22

Hasn't it been ruled that leaving the country and participating in actions against the US is okaawhatever Feb 2014 #28

John Walker Lind was arrested for fighting with Taliban but Vattel Feb 2014 #30

+1000 TheMathieu Feb 2014 #27

"want to harm this country" is subjective. L0oniX Feb 2014 #40

Obama's approval of "signature strikes" directly counters your claim Maedhros Feb 2014 #66

Actually, the word 'citizen' is beside the point in this context . . . markpkessinger Feb 2014 #85

Brought to you by the Drones For Peace program jsr Feb 2014 #14

+1 L0oniX Feb 2014 #37

+2 Enthusiast Feb 2014 #79

Bad headline. America isn't going to murder anyone with a drone; Obama is. DesMoinesDem Feb 2014 #24

Hey! Where's that DUer who goes on Fox News to tell us why drone killing is A-OK???? Romulox Feb 2014 #25

Is that the same one that goes to freeperville so they can tell us what freeps are saying? L0oniX Feb 2014 #36

I think his user name is something like SuperBlueProgressiveUltraDemocrat Maedhros Feb 2014 #67

lol, yep. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #95

EDIT: He Who Shall Not Be Named Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #65

Shh. Can't call out DUers specifically leser your post gets hidden... riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #99

Gotcha! I shall fix it. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #102

People like this assassinate themselves the moment they become our enemy. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #26

I know this is hard for some to grasp whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #29

Without a trial, how do we know this person is the "enemy"? nt ladjf Feb 2014 #33

Should we ask them real nice to come back from that Taliban training camp to stand trial? nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #41

My question was, "how do we know that the person was guilty without a trial"? ladjf Feb 2014 #42

I wouldn't say we are "replacing" our historic system of trial by jury with one that depends on the okaawhatever Feb 2014 #44

Thanks for the thorough explanation of your views on the subject. ladjf Feb 2014 #50

The problem is not knowing what specific behavior is a crime. reusrename Feb 2014 #101

Do you think every soldier on a battlefield has to be arrested and NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #43

Other than obvious deserters during the heat of battle, yes, I think all American soldiers should ladjf Feb 2014 #52

Not after the fact. Not after a surrender. NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #74

Of course not. They were casualties of war. nt ladjf Feb 2014 #81

As is this. He is on the battlefield waging war. NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #82

Rules for soldiers in combat are different . . . markpkessinger Feb 2014 #94

Yes. Good post. nt ladjf Feb 2014 #114

IOKIODI n2doc Feb 2014 #31

Nazis got a trial. L0oniX Feb 2014 #34

Only the ones that survived the war n/t n2doc Feb 2014 #35

A number of the Nazis who survived the war were later captured ladjf Feb 2014 #53

Many DUers seem to trust Obama with the unilateral power to decide to execute someone, Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #62

Many DUers are wrong. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #80

You hit on the key point that the drone murder apologists keep missing: Maedhros Feb 2014 #75

Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2014 #104

Look at the replies in this thread Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #93

Drones are like a box of chocolates... L0oniX Feb 2014 #32

This "murder by drone" has got to stop immediately. It disregards the Constitution in a flagrant ladjf Feb 2014 #38

Yeah, our Founding Fathers would never assassinate its own citizens! JaneyVee Feb 2014 #45

I think they wrote something into the laws they put in place about 'due process'. John Adams eg sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #48

That's soooo 18th century. We have to "look ahead". Like we did with CIA torturers. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #51

In WWII, there were a number of American Citizens of German descent who returned to Germany and Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #54

Talk about mixed feelings when you hear a drone nearby. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #60

Or your kid. Obama has no problem vaporozing children. He's good at it. Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #68

Handy guide for targeted citizens solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #72

+1 xchrom Feb 2014 #78

Should be an OP. Octafish Feb 2014 #90

Good one. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #96

I'm always shocked to read American's exceptionalism on this issue. As if different laws should msanthrope Feb 2014 #73

Actually, the Fifth Amendment applies to all persons under U.S. jurisdiction . . . markpkessinger Feb 2014 #86

And so does the AUMF of 9/18/2001. You've also made a fatal mistake about the 5th.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #113

Um... ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #76

I don't have a big problem with drone strikes ... kwassa Feb 2014 #83

Ever hear about someone being on the "no-fly list" because their name is similar to a terrorist? Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #84

No one by mistake gets tracked by UAV's... EX500rider Feb 2014 #89

Exactly. Agree 100%. kwassa Feb 2014 #110

Good fucking god. woo me with science Feb 2014 #91

so, how do you really feel? Don't hold back. Express yourself. kwassa Feb 2014 #107

Agreed except for the "citizen" part. Bonobo Feb 2014 #109

Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2014 #111

Me either as long as JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #106

Gee. Does anyone else seem to remember there had to be a trial first? Octafish Feb 2014 #87

If the President does it, it can't be illegal (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #108

It's getting scary out there... Mojo Electro Feb 2014 #103