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69. DEMS won't let it die...they benefit, too.

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Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:40 AM

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This is How Citizens United Dies-Feds: Mexican tycoon exploited super PACs to influence US elections [View all] kpete Feb 2014 OP

If we were smart that would rile people up of all ideologies Armstead Feb 2014 #1

well, Armstead kpete Feb 2014 #2

I try in my own little ways Armstead Feb 2014 #4

just found this: kpete Feb 2014 #7

I like your spirit -- Refreshing counterbalance to my "discouraged old fart" tendencies these days Armstead Feb 2014 #8

"Liberalism means tolerance, but it doesn't mean silence." navarth Feb 2014 #72

Democrats in San Diego received the money . . . aggiesal Feb 2014 #28

drip drip drip kpete Feb 2014 #32

I don't particularly care which party he supported. Bucky Feb 2014 #46

I don't care either . . . aggiesal Feb 2014 #53

And so did Republicans. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #48

Do you have a link that shows that? . . . aggiesal Feb 2014 #54

Yup, Bonnie dumanis is republican nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #55

Citizens United: U.S. Politics with Chinese Characteristics jsr Feb 2014 #3

To say nothing of the trend in certain countries for people to come to the US specifically JDPriestly Feb 2014 #41

Actually, the Citizens United Ruling explicitly states Vattel Feb 2014 #5

With this court? Armstead Feb 2014 #9

I am confident this court would say no to corporate speech where foreign nationals are the source Vattel Feb 2014 #12

I wish I shared your optimism....Time will tell I guess Armstead Feb 2014 #13

Even a successful lawsuit won't stop this. All the foreign corps will do is form Nay Feb 2014 #29

The relevant court remedy would not be a fine but an order that stops the message Vattel Feb 2014 #31

I looked at the filing that was entered in CA and saw that the Mexican corp. was Nay Feb 2014 #47

I see your point. If you can't find out about it until the election is over, Vattel Feb 2014 #59

CU also did not do anything to change the existing laws skepticscott Feb 2014 #40

Not sure why this post is addressed to me. Vattel Feb 2014 #60

You know, I hate to say it but sometimes you have to use people's irrational fears against okaawhatever Feb 2014 #6

Well Adelson tried to buy a justice dpt gwheezie Feb 2014 #10

So what? Why would US based corps. have more of a right to buy election than foreign ones? Romulox Feb 2014 #11

The Supreme Court already ruled against foreign corporate donations starroute Feb 2014 #18

That ruling is not consistent with either Citizens or previous Free Speech jurisprudence. Romulox Feb 2014 #20

Non-US persons (and companies) do not have constitutional rights. jeff47 Feb 2014 #30

People present in the US have virtually all the rights of citizens. Certainly 1st Amendment rights. Romulox Feb 2014 #35

They don't have the right to vote. Flying Squirrel Feb 2014 #61

In the US, anyone with a green card can legally donate to candidates, hughee99 Feb 2014 #75

Sure. Flying Squirrel Feb 2014 #77

And corporations are "anyone" ('persons'). nt Romulox Feb 2014 #80

That's why I said "Located outside US jurisdiction". jeff47 Feb 2014 #74

Then form a "straw man" US subsidiary. Problem solved. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #79

There's also this FEC case starroute Feb 2014 #33

I appreciate the feedback. Wasn't Citizens United about making a movie, though? nt Romulox Feb 2014 #38

Yes, produced by the fine folks of the Lincoln Club of Orange County nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #50

So it seems anyone legally present in the US can spend unlimited money on such activity. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #81

I would also add that it is trivial for a foreign corporation to form a subsidiary in the US. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #21

Let's see- between Citizens United enabling corporations worldwide to buy our djean111 Feb 2014 #14

This is when we all send telegrams to Ilsa Feb 2014 #15

"That's not true" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #16

Actually... Liberal_Dog Feb 2014 #36

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #58

According to this article, it was Alito. This article reflects Roberts' reaction to the issue. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #62

Your are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #64

That's OK. I thought I was wrong once but I was wrong. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #65

Trading votes for gold... NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #17

Inconceivable! blackspade Feb 2014 #19

Proving Chief 'Justice' Roberts to be wrong yet again. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #22

Is it bad because Mexicans are doing it? UncleMuscles Feb 2014 #23

The Tea Party will be outraged no doubt, and feel vindicated Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #24

Let's see: Mexican money is welcome to enter the US... KansDem Feb 2014 #25

KansDem kpete Feb 2014 #37

He should do it like Carlos Slim AngryAmish Feb 2014 #26

Cons and the tea party type believe it is fine to hide your sources of campaign funding and Fred Sanders Feb 2014 #27

We all knew this was going on, it's nice to see the truth rolling out. K & R Firebrand Gary Feb 2014 #34

Remember Alito shaking his head and mouthing no when the president brought this up in the sotu kimbutgar Feb 2014 #39

Hello Harry Reid, where are you? lark Feb 2014 #42

See, corporations really are people. Coyotl Feb 2014 #43

K&R. (nt) Kurovski Feb 2014 #44

Kick Hekate Feb 2014 #45

This Could Be The Tip Of The Iceberg DallasNE Feb 2014 #49

Corporations are associations of individuals, therefore have speech rights under the First Amendment Vox Moi Feb 2014 #51

I'm kinda of flip-flopping here... Wounded Bear Feb 2014 #52

I'm surprised Nadin didn't post about this Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #56

I await the Greenwald column on this. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #57

palast has done the work for justice dept on kochs/christy questionseverything Feb 2014 #63

Surely the felonious ones could never have dreamed their majority decision opened indepat Feb 2014 #66

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #67

Aren't they all foreign corporations now, headquartered in the Bahamas or Caymans? tclambert Feb 2014 #68

DEMS won't let it die...they benefit, too. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #69

K&R emsimon33 Feb 2014 #70

Sheldon Adelson yellowwoodII Feb 2014 #71

K&R drm604 Feb 2014 #73

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2014 #76

I thought that this was part of the arguement put to SCOTUS. idendoit Feb 2014 #78