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54. ! DOORS !

Reply to boston bean (Reply #52)

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:29 PM

Feb 2014

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White Knight [View all] boston bean Feb 2014 OP

pretending to be a feminist to ingratiate with women is WAAAAYYYYY to much work- snooper2 Feb 2014 #1

What does this mean? boston bean Feb 2014 #2

Well, you have to put it together with this video snooper2 Feb 2014 #4

nope, don't get the connection. boston bean Feb 2014 #8

Bruce Lee? snooper2 Feb 2014 #12

OMG. Let. It. Go. Glitterati Feb 2014 #3

So, you are in agreement with the MRA articles? I'm just asking, boston bean Feb 2014 #6

I guess I will make myself more clear Glitterati Feb 2014 #9

Showing support for feminist male allies and providing information boston bean Feb 2014 #13

Not a personal attack. Just the truth. Glitterati Feb 2014 #15

"screeching feminism" geek tragedy Feb 2014 #14

Oh, believe me, I have Glitterati Feb 2014 #16

funny that you reserve the use of your 'feminist voice' to characterize other geek tragedy Feb 2014 #19

Oh, I see.... Glitterati Feb 2014 #20

well, no, most people do not define 'feminism' as 'telling uppity women to STFU' geek tragedy Feb 2014 #23

Never said STFU Glitterati Feb 2014 #28

the only time, as far as can be determined, you've uttered the word 'feminism' geek tragedy Feb 2014 #30

They will NEVER accurately represent what you say to make their arguments. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #161

that's exactly what you said treestar Feb 2014 #191

Aren't you requiring that people do what you want in this argument? You don't want Squinch Feb 2014 #64

I know you have had the "white knight" boston bean Feb 2014 #26

Repeating Glitterati Feb 2014 #29

good for you. boston bean Feb 2014 #31

You're wasting your time... one_voice Feb 2014 #40

That isn't what is going on here. Squinch Feb 2014 #72

That's a valid point... one_voice Feb 2014 #109

Multiple times, by the kind of 'man' who subscribes to avoiceformen. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #38

garbage ... oh my Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #33

In real life, I've never met a HOF type feminist. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #206

Neither have I, but I have met the personality types. pacalo Feb 2014 #230

"I recommend you use "trash thread" instead of complaining." pintobean Feb 2014 #18

As would have been moving it to The Lounge where it belonged in the first place. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #21

It hasn't been locked. pintobean Feb 2014 #25

well, sure, the GD hosts can't even agree on whether to lock threads that geek tragedy Feb 2014 #32

Please, Stop Saying that. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #39

the lounge has an SOP? nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #41

straight up, YES ... *omg. am I actually playing this silly game?* Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #42

"friendly, welcoming place for everyone" geek tragedy Feb 2014 #46

I hope you realize that this phrase = Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #49

of course. libertarians would have turned the garden of eden geek tragedy Feb 2014 #71

uhm ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #83

it used to be a place hfojvt Feb 2014 #117

The irony of men telling women how not to talk around other women is rich. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #58

i would have no idea. i am equally abrasive to men and women here. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #69

Friends? People? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #77

Ah, so only men can be gender traitors then , gotcha nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #84

That feature would be a handy way to deal with lots of threads tkmorris Feb 2014 #127

there's lots of stuff i do trash nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #128

"You have your own feminism forum" Scootaloo Feb 2014 #55

"You have your own feminism forum" reads like Stay in your place!!!!! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #88

I agree with you. RC Feb 2014 #116

You did a great job with your daughters, RC. pacalo Feb 2014 #234

Thank you. RC Feb 2014 #235

+10 RC Feb 2014 #147

Feminism makes life unpleasant? treestar Feb 2014 #190

A 16 year old in a management position? HangOnKids Feb 2014 #205

Way to twist Glitterati's words! pacalo Feb 2014 #232

What she said is in no way militant MattBaggins Feb 2014 #7

I see a very vocal minority turning DU into a hostile place Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #85

yet you never, ever, ever criticize anyone but the feminists geek tragedy Feb 2014 #89

You choose to hear what you want to hear. I was going after Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #95

if I have mischaracterized your behavior, I apologize nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #99

I don't often agree with you, but here I do. Marr Feb 2014 #97

Thank you! I do like it that we at DU can be Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #101

Well, it comes down to the very simple proposition of DU iself Scootaloo Feb 2014 #98

That is not the issue at all Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #106

Really? boston bean Feb 2014 #112

I agree because it is a pointless war Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #122

the problems still exist even if I didn't say a damned thing. boston bean Feb 2014 #123

Your choice. I have expressed my opinion as have others Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #126

Ever heard the term "bystander"? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #120

Absolutely CFLDem Feb 2014 #129

Nice straw man there, the old "You hate sex!" argument Scootaloo Feb 2014 #135

So it's ok for individuals to make the prints CFLDem Feb 2014 #169

Do you want to take a correspondence course? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #170

Where's the dissonance with social theory? CFLDem Feb 2014 #183

But you seem to be conflating any and all criticism with calls for censorship. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #212

Says one of the most vocal. JTFrog Feb 2014 #111

Lol. Not on that issue. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #118

Yet you're still skating on thin ice. n/t JTFrog Feb 2014 #188

what does that mean? and who are you? Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #192

Oh, I just meant you were one of those skating on the border of JTFrog Feb 2014 #193

oh. well, I don't know. I don't try to hide who I am. what you see is what you get Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #194

That's fucking funny Scootaloo Feb 2014 #44

Oh, but I do Glitterati Feb 2014 #56

So... you don't Scootaloo Feb 2014 #66

+1 nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #213

If she perceives the feminist discourse she's reading as "SCREECHING", redqueen Feb 2014 #67

Do you read the use of "militant feminist" as "feminazi," too? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #80

Yep. redqueen Feb 2014 #94

And will come back demanding "exact quotes" when you call 'em on it Scootaloo Feb 2014 #103

They probably understand that, but pretend otherwise. Or so my instincts tell me... nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #214

RECOMMENDED! Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #78

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #81

+1 Marr Feb 2014 #93

+1 1000words Feb 2014 #107

You seem a bit unhinged by this. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #125

Can you envision her clutching her pearls? OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #198

Thanks for posting! quinnox Feb 2014 #162

Of course I did Glitterati Feb 2014 #168

Awesome post quinnox Feb 2014 #173

I'd sign up for a gender baiting thread moratorium. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #209

I would too. If it were applied equally to all "sides," that is. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #218

Certainly! Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #226

Yet I, personally, see value in both, even if I don't 100% always agree with either. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #229

I agree. pacalo Feb 2014 #237

But that's a fallacy in itself, dividing social justice activists into "acceptable" (i.e. polite nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #216

very good post. nt Union Scribe Feb 2014 #166

WTF? treestar Feb 2014 #189

You wonder Aerows Feb 2014 #201

I guess I'm more of a Gray Knight. I will take to the barricades in defense of ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #5

Did you get "worked up" over the watermelon and fried chicken lunch? redqueen Feb 2014 #91

Yes I did. And I don't know a single African-American or undocumented imigrant ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #124

You minimize objectification by calling it "models in bikinis". redqueen Feb 2014 #132

"women participate in their own oppression" pintobean Feb 2014 #143

Plus a *'ing bazillion!!! Well said, pintobean. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #146

I think she has me on ignore. pintobean Feb 2014 #155

LOL. ... I hadn't seen that. polly7 Feb 2014 #156

That was absolutely eye-opening. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #211

Stop making sense! RiffRandell Feb 2014 #199

Finally...that's it in a nutshell. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #210

Damn, I didn't know how oppressed I was... pacalo Feb 2014 #239

Objectification is absolutely no joke RBStevens Feb 2014 #145

Thank you. redqueen Feb 2014 #149

Miss representation was great - RBStevens Feb 2014 #153

Thanks for that link, here's one for you! redqueen Feb 2014 #157

Oh wow! Feminism is politics?! RBStevens Feb 2014 #167

"The object of my affection.....can change my complexion.....from white to rosy red..... ---> Petrushka Feb 2014 #179

It seems some of your own compadres have "fallen for it" as well... opiate69 Feb 2014 #10

this is a vibe i get from some too, not all just some loli phabay Feb 2014 #11

So wait.... 1awake Feb 2014 #17

nah, not you per se but there are people who support all causes for reasons of trying to get some loli phabay Feb 2014 #22

There is nothing you can do to change what you are. JVS Feb 2014 #61

so you endorse the 'white knight' concept as offered by the avoiceformen crowd then. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #34

why not read what i wrote, unlike yourself i dont read avoiceformen loli phabay Feb 2014 #36

so you would say the same about white people in the NAACP? nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #47

no doubt there are some who are there for reasons that you would not find pure loli phabay Feb 2014 #57

would you also agree that there are women who seek approval from men by telling geek tragedy Feb 2014 #59

hence my use of the words people and humans, its part of us all loli phabay Feb 2014 #60

I know you didn't ask me the question but my answer would be I am sure there are in some cases maddezmom Feb 2014 #70

No, it doesn't but if you line yourself up with MRA's and boston bean Feb 2014 #76

part of that depends on how one characterizes feminism. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #79

I think you're missing the point Scootaloo Feb 2014 #75

I'm very familiar with that ignorant little comic... opiate69 Feb 2014 #86

But to declare who is or isn't a "real" feminist is to claim an authority no individual really has. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #220

I would argue the point Scootaloo Feb 2014 #236

Well yes, if your ideas are mostly the opposite of what you claim they are, then that's hypocrisy nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #238

I noticed that she wrote "feminists" not feminists cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #160

It's the "white guilt" of gender. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #24

Look at the first post to the OP. boston bean Feb 2014 #27

Well said. redqueen Feb 2014 #96

I'm immune to their consultations. Iggo Feb 2014 #35

They remind me of you guys when you get all worked up, to be honest. bemildred Feb 2014 #37

absolutely ridiculous, and something I really never thought boston bean Feb 2014 #45

well, here's the funny thing geek tragedy Feb 2014 #63

Everybody needs protection sometimes. bemildred Feb 2014 #102

well, sure everyone needs protection, wasn't disputing that. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #105

There is a movement on DU to convince others many of us hate women and feminism The Straight Story Feb 2014 #43

you forgot the perfunctory reference to opening doors nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #50

you'll see it right below, don't fret! boston bean Feb 2014 #52

! DOORS ! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #54

got it covered below Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #53

not all men but, hey if the shoe fits ... or yanno Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #51

Doors pintobean Feb 2014 #62

Knock knock Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #130

Excellent reply. pintobean Feb 2014 #139

Could you tell me... one_voice Feb 2014 #131

Benevolent sexism. pintobean Feb 2014 #137

Oh ok. Yeah I remember... one_voice Feb 2014 #144

Only if she's breast feeding though! NuclearDem Feb 2014 #110

while talking on her cellphone! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #113

Don't you need to make another OP where you pretend to be persecuted? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #87

I might make an op, Others make a group of it (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2014 #90

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #136

It IS chivalry 2.0. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #48

Looks like the hit dogs yelped here in this thread. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #65

Calling bullshit whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #68

Yep. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #82

that's not true. hostile environment is a very well known and vigorously enforced geek tragedy Feb 2014 #92

There should be no hostile environments for women anywhere whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #100

No it doesn't, though. allowing a hostile environment is considerered discrimination geek tragedy Feb 2014 #104

Again, his slightly hyperbolic oath whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #108

oh wait, we're talking about Will Pitt not Warren? geek tragedy Feb 2014 #114

Cool, glad we cleared that up. whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #115

I agree but, I rec'd it anyway because it was (I think) Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #121

The sentiment was in support of feminism. boston bean Feb 2014 #134

I understand that ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #138

I understand. My post was in support of yours. boston bean Feb 2014 #140

oh lordy me! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #141

. boston bean Feb 2014 #142

It's not controversial, it's just wrong Major Nikon Feb 2014 #148

hoo boy, you're wondering if having a room dedicated for men to gawk at women in bikinis geek tragedy Feb 2014 #150

You obviously have no knowledge and experience on the subject Major Nikon Feb 2014 #159

well of course you see no impact, not like you ever see things from the perspective of women geek tragedy Feb 2014 #163

Either you are speaking gibberish, or I'm too stupid to understand your words Major Nikon Feb 2014 #172

Oh dear. This is going to hurt. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #178

No, it's not Major Nikon Feb 2014 #181

A politically oriented company that has a "SI Swimsuit Edition viewing room"? redqueen Feb 2014 #151

Among a nearly infinite number of other rooms with more being added each day Major Nikon Feb 2014 #152

LOL redqueen Feb 2014 #154

I will Major Nikon Feb 2014 #164

if you reread your own post you will understand why it is not - Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #119

Precisely. I've never seen this as being "men versus women" or anything equally childish. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #224

+1 Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #73

You spin me right round baby right round Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #74

God I can't stand that site ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #133

Maybe they reduce a complex discussion to something small and trivial because that's the only way nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #225

I have recently put in a request for this 'White Knight'. No response. bravenak Feb 2014 #158

Sorry, but this appears to be an Objectification of 'White Knights". Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #217

White knights don't exist. bravenak Feb 2014 #219

Well, I certainly agree! Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #221

White knighting =/= being an ally cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #165

Agreed, but we are speaking about the MRA definition of a white knight. boston bean Feb 2014 #171

That is true. The MRA version is seriously toxic cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #176

They're basically sociopaths. A lot of stuff falls into place when you realize this. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #227

So if I see this guy getting the TAR beat out of him... Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2014 #174

I would hope you would at least call the cops. boston bean Feb 2014 #175

Of course. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2014 #177

Of course ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #180

My point is that he would expect someone who could help to do so. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2014 #182

I'm a little confused., sorry ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #185

It is just those MRA Crackpots. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2014 #186

the site you mentioned DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #184

If they're the same ones who get all offended by "gay rights are civil rights" and the like nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #228

They wouldn't do anything? LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #187

Did you ever consider that some of the men here do not dislike feminists or their struggle Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #195

So, we can infer that because they don't like me boston bean Feb 2014 #196

Why would you infer that? Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #200

Because you just said so?? boston bean Feb 2014 #204

I never accused you of being an insufferable ass Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #208

If it's only one person's opinion, then why the defensiveness, the need to get so worked up? nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #233

Women can be White Knights Aerows Feb 2014 #197

I hope you are keeping an eye out for raccoons! Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #202

Not good Aerows Feb 2014 #203

Remember some people mstinamotorcity2 Feb 2014 #207

"White Knight" is actually the nicer sounding of two terms that MRA's use. stevenleser Feb 2014 #215

I've been called one, and geek tragedy has been called one at least once just this week. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #222

If anyone pushed any other stupid fucking meme from a hate site NuclearDem Feb 2014 #223

That quote from the video and the excerpt from the website are disturbing to say the least btrflykng9 Feb 2014 #231

M'lady, doth thou require rescuing? Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #240