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In reply to the discussion: White Knight [View all]redqueen
(115,108 posts)149. Thank you.
It is tragic that all over the world men are conditioned by these constant portrayals to see women (and girls, as you described) as sex objects ... and many women are conditioned to perceive it as complimentary.
The dearth of women in leadership positions in media, business, government, etc. is partly a result of this form of oppression. I had such hope after Miss Representation came out. I thought it'd be a watershed moment. Was I overly optimistic or what.
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pretending to be a feminist to ingratiate with women is WAAAAYYYYY to much work-
snooper2
Feb 2014
#1
funny that you reserve the use of your 'feminist voice' to characterize other
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#19
well, no, most people do not define 'feminism' as 'telling uppity women to STFU'
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#23
the only time, as far as can be determined, you've uttered the word 'feminism'
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#30
They will NEVER accurately represent what you say to make their arguments.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2014
#161
Aren't you requiring that people do what you want in this argument? You don't want
Squinch
Feb 2014
#64
As would have been moving it to The Lounge where it belonged in the first place. nt
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#21
The irony of men telling women how not to talk around other women is rich.
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2014
#58
"You have your own feminism forum" reads like Stay in your place!!!!!
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#88
But you seem to be conflating any and all criticism with calls for censorship.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#212
oh. well, I don't know. I don't try to hide who I am. what you see is what you get
Pretzel_Warrior
Feb 2014
#194
They probably understand that, but pretend otherwise. Or so my instincts tell me...
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#214
Yet I, personally, see value in both, even if I don't 100% always agree with either.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#229
But that's a fallacy in itself, dividing social justice activists into "acceptable" (i.e. polite
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#216
I guess I'm more of a Gray Knight. I will take to the barricades in defense of ...
11 Bravo
Feb 2014
#5
Yes I did. And I don't know a single African-American or undocumented imigrant ...
11 Bravo
Feb 2014
#124
"The object of my affection.....can change my complexion.....from white to rosy red..... --->
Petrushka
Feb 2014
#179
nah, not you per se but there are people who support all causes for reasons of trying to get some
loli phabay
Feb 2014
#22
so you endorse the 'white knight' concept as offered by the avoiceformen crowd then. nt
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#34
no doubt there are some who are there for reasons that you would not find pure
loli phabay
Feb 2014
#57
would you also agree that there are women who seek approval from men by telling
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#59
I know you didn't ask me the question but my answer would be I am sure there are in some cases
maddezmom
Feb 2014
#70
But to declare who is or isn't a "real" feminist is to claim an authority no individual really has.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#220
Well yes, if your ideas are mostly the opposite of what you claim they are, then that's hypocrisy
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#238
There is a movement on DU to convince others many of us hate women and feminism
The Straight Story
Feb 2014
#43
that's not true. hostile environment is a very well known and vigorously enforced
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#92
No it doesn't, though. allowing a hostile environment is considerered discrimination
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#104
hoo boy, you're wondering if having a room dedicated for men to gawk at women in bikinis
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#150
well of course you see no impact, not like you ever see things from the perspective of women
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#163
Either you are speaking gibberish, or I'm too stupid to understand your words
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#172
A politically oriented company that has a "SI Swimsuit Edition viewing room"?
redqueen
Feb 2014
#151
Among a nearly infinite number of other rooms with more being added each day
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#152
Precisely. I've never seen this as being "men versus women" or anything equally childish.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#224
Maybe they reduce a complex discussion to something small and trivial because that's the only way
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#225
Sorry, but this appears to be an Objectification of 'White Knights".
Old and In the Way
Feb 2014
#217
They're basically sociopaths. A lot of stuff falls into place when you realize this.
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#227
My point is that he would expect someone who could help to do so.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2014
#182
If they're the same ones who get all offended by "gay rights are civil rights" and the like
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#228
Did you ever consider that some of the men here do not dislike feminists or their struggle
Vinnie From Indy
Feb 2014
#195
If it's only one person's opinion, then why the defensiveness, the need to get so worked up?
nomorenomore08
Feb 2014
#233
"White Knight" is actually the nicer sounding of two terms that MRA's use.
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#215
I've been called one, and geek tragedy has been called one at least once just this week.
NuclearDem
Feb 2014
#222
That quote from the video and the excerpt from the website are disturbing to say the least
btrflykng9
Feb 2014
#231