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IrishAyes

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116. I read several accounts of this and one critical detail's often left out:

Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:59 AM

Feb 2014

She is supposedly using the city sewer system and not paying for that. It would be fine if she didn't use any city services AT ALL w/o paying, but she's actually leaching off the other taxpayers who have to pay. No government can be run on air. If she wants the benefits of city living, she needs to pony up her fair share. From the looks of her house, she could afford to do so, too.

There can be no digging of outhouse pits on city properties for a huge variety of reasons. So this woman needs to buy herself an Incinolet or a good compost toilet. I've also read accounts (true???) that she disposes of her human waste in the garbage - and isn't paying for that service either. Besides, can you imagine the can of worms THAT would open? Millions of people sending untreated poop to the municipal dump? Want that in your groundwater????

I'd love to have more sympathy for this woman but she's NOT 'living green'. She's living cheap in a very dangerous manner, at the expense of and direct danger to her fellow citizens.

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Woman Living Off The Grid Faces Eviction If She Doesn't Hook Back Up [View all] HarveyDarkey Feb 2014 OP

Another story about Florida. . . B Calm Feb 2014 #1

full of rich old dickheads madokie Feb 2014 #5

Florida has a notorious robber baron for a governor Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #29

I don't know sakabatou Feb 2014 #57

You try that in most states and anywhere there are gated communities and you will get 1monster Feb 2014 #98

UM, NOPE Not here in California. at least here in the north. Ecumenist Feb 2014 #105

The city wants the money joeglow3 Feb 2014 #2

+1. They will see this sort of thing as a threat to their business model, so to speak. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #6

Republican government does indeed want to control us Bandit Feb 2014 #28

Here's another story: I know of a family where 3 members live next door to one another. 7962 Feb 2014 #90

Isn't the minimum charge used to pay for the upkeep of the JimDandy Feb 2014 #109

When you ask why the minimum is so high, they tell you its to pay for the system 7962 Feb 2014 #115

That does sound unfair about the trash. JimDandy Feb 2014 #117

What a racket. bullsnarfle Feb 2014 #118

Sewer separation is killing a lot of cities joeglow3 Feb 2014 #119

Yet BigBiz can suck aquifers dry n/t 4_TN_TITANS Feb 2014 #113

Sold (at a great loss!) a money-pit piece of Cape Coral property in 2009 and never looked back. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #3

And, of course this is typical of the so-called 'conservative' values Stonepounder Feb 2014 #4

Is this a free nation? No. hunter Feb 2014 #7

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #10

Don't fall for it, WillyT. Always dig a little deeper. Robin Speronis is not a poor victim. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #87

Ahhhhh, more to the story!! Thanks for that effort. 7962 Feb 2014 #91

And: "Cape real estate owner sentenced to probation in larceny case" NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #93

The Masters of the system ultimately WANT the poor and homeless to suffer AZ Progressive Feb 2014 #35

You DON'T really own your own HOME AZ Progressive Feb 2014 #38

Yep CFLDem Feb 2014 #40

I recall my Berlin Expat Feb 2014 #80

We are exempt from property taxes sammytko Feb 2014 #92

You want to outlaw CANDLES??? Piffle. kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #77

Yes, this should be embraced, but sadly ignorance and sh** often float to the top! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2014 #79

20 years ago a friend of mine had to tie in to the city water and sewer system. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #8

So why not connect to the city utilities and never use them? Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #9

They would still charge her a minimum charge every month. louis-t Feb 2014 #18

That's different... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #21

For some it is an opiton; greiner3 Feb 2014 #19

Hmmmph...I'm sorry Ms. Speronis, but just because you are Standing on Your Ground in bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #11

No State Income Tax bpj62 Feb 2014 #12

What does she do with her sewage? n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #13

She might have a septic tank. totodeinhere Feb 2014 #15

Septic tanks can be adequate, if there's enough property over which to spread the drainfield. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #16

She Flushed It Down the City Sewer... BodieTown Feb 2014 #20

I am confused joeglow3 Feb 2014 #26

I Used to Be A Technical Writer... BodieTown Feb 2014 #30

Thanks for using the technical terms Renew Deal Feb 2014 #33

Now, could you explain packman Feb 2014 #61

Actually you can pour the bucket straight into the toilet. And it gets more pressure like jtuck004 Feb 2014 #86

We pay a separate fee for sewage. That would work in Florida too. hunter Feb 2014 #27

Except that the plumbing code has requirements for rainwater collection, composting toilets, FSogol Feb 2014 #36

Have they got to the "Innocent until proven guilty" part? hunter Feb 2014 #42

The proper way to show compliance with the building codes is to get permit when you make FSogol Feb 2014 #43

So you are an authoritarian? hunter Feb 2014 #46

I'm not either. However a city sanitary system isn't free. If is still using the system, then she FSogol Feb 2014 #50

Aaahhh what's a little cholera between friends. So long as we are FREE! CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #51

Seriously. Freedumb is on the march! FSogol Feb 2014 #62

I pay the sewage fee. hunter Feb 2014 #55

Has she the ability to pay for separate sewage disposal, without water service? hunter Feb 2014 #58

Not every area has a sewer fee. Most add it on to the water bill. FSogol Feb 2014 #59

I'm glad we are not neighbors too... hunter Feb 2014 #68

Again w/ the name calling? And where did I say anything about the impossiblility of changing laws? FSogol Feb 2014 #69

"all my sewage is recycled back into potable water"---Where the hell is THIS? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #106

Lots of places. Here's a general article... hunter Feb 2014 #120

I didn't ask "Where is it in the larger world?" I asked YOU for YOUR town because of YOUR claim. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #121

I wouldn't compost poop. Ilsa Feb 2014 #64

They do have composting toilets, which are a high tech version of an outhouse. FSogol Feb 2014 #70

Good fertilizer, but not for growing food. Ilsa Feb 2014 #100

Correct. 840high Feb 2014 #65

Wastewater Lurker Deluxe Feb 2014 #14

More on tracking wastewater Android3.14 Feb 2014 #24

George Bush was applauded when he went off grid... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #17

I remember this. But rules are different for the wealthy. nt valerief Feb 2014 #22

Hopefully this woman's attorney... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #23

Lucky you! nt valerief Feb 2014 #25

The "ranch" was also in a rural area with no services WolverineDG Feb 2014 #67

I bet she doesn't have a bundle of cable and phone service either NightWatcher Feb 2014 #31

I told Comcast to quit billing me for -$0.04 or I'd rip their cable out of MY tube. hunter Feb 2014 #73

I just checked the federal laws and... TRoN33 Feb 2014 #32

Being grid-tied is not an uncommon requirement. It is unfortunate that she did not realize GreenPartyVoter Feb 2014 #34

I researched the idea of going off-grid justiceischeap Feb 2014 #39

Some regulations are useful, but others do leave me scratching my head. GreenPartyVoter Feb 2014 #45

Some are designed to keep poor people out of the neighborhood. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #53

Actually, she was very deeply involved in real estate, with blogs and DBAs. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #96

Oooohhh... This could get really interesting! GreenPartyVoter Feb 2014 #101

This woman thought she could scam people Jenoch Feb 2014 #104

She is skirting the issue a little by using the camp showers Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #37

You DON'T really OWN your own home AZ Progressive Feb 2014 #41

You may own your home... druidity33 Feb 2014 #94

Uh, where does she use the toilet? WolverineDG Feb 2014 #44

She may have a holding tank w/leach field. PotatoChip Feb 2014 #47

septic tanks in the city dont Niceguy1 Feb 2014 #54

Yes, but she needs to pay for those services just like everyone else WolverineDG Feb 2014 #66

No disagreement from me PotatoChip Feb 2014 #76

90% of my trash goes into the recycling bins or our compost heap. hunter Feb 2014 #48

How does that work? PotatoChip Feb 2014 #49

I pay for sewage service... hunter Feb 2014 #56

Sounds like a good approach for water conservation. (nt) PotatoChip Feb 2014 #63

Purple pipes secondvariety Feb 2014 #72

It's potable water in this case. hunter Feb 2014 #78

The municipality secondvariety Feb 2014 #89

How about someone with a compost pile? quakerboy Feb 2014 #103

Florida! Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #52

The corporation has to get paid! blackspade Feb 2014 #60

I feel that if ones land Munificence Feb 2014 #71

i agree. as long as you aren't imposing it on children, the no water thing... ejpoeta Feb 2014 #114

Hillbilly drifters living "off the grid" destroyed the ground water where my grandparents lived Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #74

In my great grandma's case it was wealthier "backpackers" and tourists with money. hunter Feb 2014 #83

Another day... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2014 #75

It is all about what everything is all about - GREED! liberal N proud Feb 2014 #81

We all know Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #82

"The Cape Coral resident said she will dispose of waste just as dog owners do for pets." NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #84

I lived there in 1981-82 and I miss it in some ways. Systematic Chaos Feb 2014 #107

I like the water theme, but like you it's not secure from ocean rise or tidal surges. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #108

It's about CONTROL and showing her who she belongs to. ileus Feb 2014 #85

I'm siding with the city on this one jmowreader Feb 2014 #88

Robin Marie Speronis has a past. She's a crook with a crooked past. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #95

how long before shit like this happens to you if you don't watch television? Kali Feb 2014 #97

I could live like that at my house madville Feb 2014 #99

Good to know when I finally Shankapotomus Feb 2014 #102

Her lawyer is the guy who foreclosed on the Bank of America. Jim Lane Feb 2014 #110

LOOK OUT!!! DANGER!!! OTHERS COULD DO THIS TOO!!! (Mob enforcers dispatched). Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #111

I think she needs to hook the guy up to the solar batteries flobee1 Feb 2014 #112

I read several accounts of this and one critical detail's often left out: IrishAyes Feb 2014 #116