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BainsBane

(53,137 posts)
49. How would you know when you didn't bother to read my posts?
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:42 AM
Mar 2014

Since you insist.


2. The problem is that the phrase "objectifying" doesn't actually mean anything.
Aren't you really just saying, in different words, that men shouldn't "desire" women? I think so.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4544565

That you present opposition to objectification as opposition to male desire of women, as natural sexuality, reveals a clear intent to dismiss the view as anti-sex.

Pathologizing the male sexual response: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11145354
In this case you assume no women, not just feminists, but no women want sex as much as men.

3. For a good portion of your life, you have an irrationally and self-destructively high desire for sex. By a "good portion" of your life, I mean two things: broadly, several decades between the teens and the fifties, and more proximately, many times a day during those long decades. One researcher found that among men between the ages of 18 and 25, fully 50 percent had thought about sex in the last 5 minutes.

I think you mistake not wanting bad sex or unfulfilling sex for not wanting sex at all. I'm sure any number of men on this board would tell you their partners enjoy a lot of sex.

4. If you are heterosexual, those sexual partners you desire so much do not reciprocate your urgency. Clark and Hatfield also had college men approach college women on campus using the same lines. The guys were reasonably attractive, as judged by the fact that over 50 percent of the women said "yes" to the request for a date. But the number of women who said yes to the sexual offer was precisely zero (the study was done twice, both before and after the AIDs epidemic, and the number was zero before as well as after). I heard a talk recently which revealed that it's not all about sex at all - the researcher discovered that if women were not afraid of men, if women found men attractive, and if women thought they'd have more fun in bed with a strange man, the sex difference would go away! The researcher seemed to take the findings as a blow to what she called "essentialism." Perhaps that's good news for Brad Pitt. But unfortunately, most real women essentially find most real men rather scary, unattractive, and unsexy, and they consequently say "No."


Awful women saying no to men they consider unattractive. Another misandrist conspiracy. If the world were fair, women would have sex with anyone, even men who regularly insulted their gender and engaged in relentless self pity.

Except for rape. Evidently you have decided women enjoy the fantasy of being raped, not that you bother to ask any actual women what they think about that. Nor did you bother to question how the category of rape as descriptor for female fantasies emerged. Or consider the basic concept of a fantasy and rape being an OXYMORON since a fantasy is based on desire and rape involves the absence of consent, meaning the woman does not only not desire it but refuses it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/11148958


Then there was your famous thread equating opposition to old men preying on underage girls with homophobia. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4446364
We can also recall your justification of selling school girl underwear in Japanese vending machines. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023947990
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3948593 and rest of the subthread.

You see those all as normal sexual responses and describe as pathological or bigoted those who think otherwise.

You seem to be confused about the term creepy. Creepy is what women say when they want to be polite about referring to someone as a sexual predator. It is not a slur on men. It is a term for sexual predators. Most men are not in fact sexual predators.

It would take all day to look through the rest of the posts my search turned up, but these are enough to make clear you regularly present women as lacking in sexual desire, not engaging in enough sex, or being bigoted against men who like sex with underage girls.

I'll wait your apology for calling me a liar and for engaging in hate speech. I also have to wonder what kind of person insists the radical feminist idea that women should be seen as people rather than objects to be ogled, raped and beaten is hateful. It seems quite clear to me that rape and mutilation, either in practice or enjoying it as a form of "entertainment" requires a deep hatred of women. In fact, I can think of little more hateful than that.

Before I look, let me guess uppityperson Mar 2014 #1
Looking at those makes me think we HAVE come a long way.n/t Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #2
Yes we have ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #35
Wow! yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #53
Ah yes, who can forget the nose cones and the penis symbols. bemildred Mar 2014 #3
And to think these are from the "Good Old Days" that the Conservatives keep harking on! Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #4
eeeesssshhhh Whisp Mar 2014 #5
And that one is not the worst of them! Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #6
I've seen every episode of Mad Men. Jenoch Mar 2014 #37
All that spanking! Those Madison Avenue guys must have been some freaks. Scuba Mar 2014 #7
I know! Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #8
I'd be willing to bet it's 90% projection from that group. adirondacker Mar 2014 #18
I recall the VW Bug ad... adirondacker Mar 2014 #9
... Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #10
I showed this to my mother about ten years ago and your smilies are a dead on adirondacker Mar 2014 #13
And people don't get that those of us who lived through the 1950s Warpy Mar 2014 #11
Those are pretty awful and I remember them. Now let's get rid of all those Cleita Mar 2014 #68
I love the store circulars that come out around Mother's Day Warpy Mar 2014 #70
Or washing machine. My husband and I actually knew a guy who asked me to Cleita Mar 2014 #71
"Indoors women are useful, even pleasant. pipoman Mar 2014 #12
yeah, that one really is just maniacal in it's sociopathy. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #31
Holy Shit indeed. .. pipoman Mar 2014 #33
well, the woman could go into stereotype .... and be totally ironic and laugh Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #36
That pissed me off Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2014 #62
You've missed a lot, Lady Freedom BainsBane Mar 2014 #14
How true. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #16
No. No one will. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #19
No, sorry, I doubt anyone will say anything of the sort... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #21
It shows she is incapable seeing in anything but extremes. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #22
Wherever could I have gotten that impression? BainsBane Mar 2014 #29
Such a lovely little thread, that one. Weaves quite the yarn, doesn't it? Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #34
Nevertheless you seem rather blind to gradations. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #38
You really want to go there? BainsBane Mar 2014 #39
Did I ever say that? I seriously seriously doubt it. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #40
Let's revisit what you have said BainsBane Mar 2014 #41
I take it that I didn't as it then, Bonobo Mar 2014 #43
No, I won't admit it BainsBane Mar 2014 #44
That's called lying. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #45
No, sir. That is called being honestly doubtful and giving you the benefit of it. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #46
She made it up. Out of thin air. That is what lying is. Bonobo Mar 2014 #47
That's why I posted dozens of links BainsBane Mar 2014 #64
How would you know when you didn't bother to read my posts? BainsBane Mar 2014 #49
BB: "Aren't you still claiming HOF members hate sex?" Bonobo Mar 2014 #50
The point was your allegation that I can't see gradations BainsBane Mar 2014 #60
"I can think of little more hateful than that" Oh...I can The Straight Story Mar 2014 #51
So why do people watch rape porn? BainsBane Mar 2014 #59
I suppose you're right BainsBane Mar 2014 #24
Jury results... Agschmid Mar 2014 #26
wow. The Alerter. and Juror #4. but, really -- I have to address this: Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #28
I guess I was spot on BainsBane Mar 2014 #30
I am inclined to agree with you. Some people want to kill the messenger because they Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #32
4 people voting on personality Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #66
I don't even know where to begin with this, so I won't bother. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #42
Sabrina does not look normal. Odd. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #15
The old torpedo tits push-up bras. VScott Mar 2014 #17
Wow.. That looks like exactly what Republicans are talking about SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #20
OMG....those are aweful... one_voice Mar 2014 #23
It is always interesting to dip into the past. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #48
I remember seeing some of those before. Sissyk Mar 2014 #25
Wow, that's really disturbing. giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #27
Rec for exposure... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #52
They are awful My Good Babushka Mar 2014 #54
yeah, they are really vile Vattel Mar 2014 #55
Wish they'd included the year in all of them. YarnAddict Mar 2014 #56
Forties and fifties mostly. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #69
K&R n/t Feral Child Mar 2014 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ Mar 2014 #58
Oh my gawd... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #61
And it was taken for granted by so many ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #63
This is one of those things melm00se Mar 2014 #65
That projection equipment could really give a woman back pain. undeterred Mar 2014 #67
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