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In reply to the discussion: "These 17 Ads From The Past Will Probably Disgust You. Unless You Really Hate Women." [View all]BainsBane
(53,137 posts)49. How would you know when you didn't bother to read my posts?
Since you insist.
2. The problem is that the phrase "objectifying" doesn't actually mean anything.
Aren't you really just saying, in different words, that men shouldn't "desire" women? I think so.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4544565
That you present opposition to objectification as opposition to male desire of women, as natural sexuality, reveals a clear intent to dismiss the view as anti-sex.
Pathologizing the male sexual response: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11145354
In this case you assume no women, not just feminists, but no women want sex as much as men.
3. For a good portion of your life, you have an irrationally and self-destructively high desire for sex. By a "good portion" of your life, I mean two things: broadly, several decades between the teens and the fifties, and more proximately, many times a day during those long decades. One researcher found that among men between the ages of 18 and 25, fully 50 percent had thought about sex in the last 5 minutes.
I think you mistake not wanting bad sex or unfulfilling sex for not wanting sex at all. I'm sure any number of men on this board would tell you their partners enjoy a lot of sex.
4. If you are heterosexual, those sexual partners you desire so much do not reciprocate your urgency. Clark and Hatfield also had college men approach college women on campus using the same lines. The guys were reasonably attractive, as judged by the fact that over 50 percent of the women said "yes" to the request for a date. But the number of women who said yes to the sexual offer was precisely zero (the study was done twice, both before and after the AIDs epidemic, and the number was zero before as well as after). I heard a talk recently which revealed that it's not all about sex at all - the researcher discovered that if women were not afraid of men, if women found men attractive, and if women thought they'd have more fun in bed with a strange man, the sex difference would go away! The researcher seemed to take the findings as a blow to what she called "essentialism." Perhaps that's good news for Brad Pitt. But unfortunately, most real women essentially find most real men rather scary, unattractive, and unsexy, and they consequently say "No."
Awful women saying no to men they consider unattractive. Another misandrist conspiracy. If the world were fair, women would have sex with anyone, even men who regularly insulted their gender and engaged in relentless self pity.
Except for rape. Evidently you have decided women enjoy the fantasy of being raped, not that you bother to ask any actual women what they think about that. Nor did you bother to question how the category of rape as descriptor for female fantasies emerged. Or consider the basic concept of a fantasy and rape being an OXYMORON since a fantasy is based on desire and rape involves the absence of consent, meaning the woman does not only not desire it but refuses it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/11148958
Then there was your famous thread equating opposition to old men preying on underage girls with homophobia. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4446364
We can also recall your justification of selling school girl underwear in Japanese vending machines. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023947990
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3948593 and rest of the subthread.
You see those all as normal sexual responses and describe as pathological or bigoted those who think otherwise.
You seem to be confused about the term creepy. Creepy is what women say when they want to be polite about referring to someone as a sexual predator. It is not a slur on men. It is a term for sexual predators. Most men are not in fact sexual predators.
It would take all day to look through the rest of the posts my search turned up, but these are enough to make clear you regularly present women as lacking in sexual desire, not engaging in enough sex, or being bigoted against men who like sex with underage girls.
I'll wait your apology for calling me a liar and for engaging in hate speech. I also have to wonder what kind of person insists the radical feminist idea that women should be seen as people rather than objects to be ogled, raped and beaten is hateful. It seems quite clear to me that rape and mutilation, either in practice or enjoying it as a form of "entertainment" requires a deep hatred of women. In fact, I can think of little more hateful than that.
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"These 17 Ads From The Past Will Probably Disgust You. Unless You Really Hate Women." [View all]
Lady Freedom Returns
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And to think these are from the "Good Old Days" that the Conservatives keep harking on!
Lady Freedom Returns
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#4
I showed this to my mother about ten years ago and your smilies are a dead on
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#13
well, the woman could go into stereotype .... and be totally ironic and laugh
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#36
Such a lovely little thread, that one. Weaves quite the yarn, doesn't it?
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#34
No, sir. That is called being honestly doubtful and giving you the benefit of it.
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#46
wow. The Alerter. and Juror #4. but, really -- I have to address this:
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#28
I am inclined to agree with you. Some people want to kill the messenger because they
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#32