"These 17 Ads From The Past Will Probably Disgust You. Unless You Really Hate Women."

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59. So why do people watch rape porn?

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If not for arousal? Isn't that the purpose of porn?

I agree calling people dogs is bad, which is why I take offense at the word bitch when used for anything other than a female dog. Perhaps you ought to put in a word with some of the guys in the men's group who consider it an outrage when such vulgar insults are hidden by juries, which isn't often. I will add the other vulgar terms that some around here like to use against and about women.

You may or may not have been called all sorts of things, but you are not most men. You are one man.

The other thing I am sick to death of is the "your friends" trope. If you can't treat me as an individual human being, that shows a profound lack of respect for my very humanity. I am one person only. That you refuse to treat me as such shows that you don't even see me as a person.

This:

"Awful women saying no to men they consider unattractive. Another misandrist conspiracy. If the world were fair, women would have sex with anyone, even men who regularly insulted their gender and engaged in relentless self pity. "

WTF? Does it really have to be this twisted and complex?

That relates to the MRA talking point that none of the hot women go for "nice guys." Given that so many of Bonobo's points relate to women (by this he means the right women, the ones he wants) not being attracted to short men or not wanting to have sex with men they don't consider attractive, the point struck me as related to his posts. YMMV.

From benevolent sexism to porn all I hear from a select few here is about how men are just assholes who hate women. Maybe it is time for those few to look at themselves and how they see men.

You would be wrong to assume any of that is about men in general. It is about certain kinds of men, not men in general. Men in fact post in HOF and hundreds of DUers have recommended threads denouncing misogyny, such as this one http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=38236There are several others. You don't agree, as is your right. You, however, are not all men. Nor are the handful of men and women who set their sites against HOF members the majority of DUers.

You seem to think posting on DU makes someone superior to the general population. I do not. You get no special consideration from me simply because you have an account here. You stand on your own merits as a person, based on what you write, as do I and everyone else. Someone calling himself liberal means nothing when he consistently presents views that oppose everything I care about. You claim you support women's rights but mock and attack nearly every thread on the subject. You have made your position on the issue crystal clear. You don't get to treat women's rights with contempt, complain about how oppressed white men are, and then claim to be on my side.

Whether one respects women has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. It has to do with how one is raised and personal values. Political positions are conservative or liberal but the fact is some on this site are not liberal on gender issues: Examples: not everyone is pro-choice; some have argued men shouldn't have to pay child support if a woman refuses to have an abortion; some have argued women should have to pay more for health insurance; they deny objectification is an issue, or say it is the fault of men; they deliberately mock women's rights by going on endlessly about faux outrage about doors; they oppose EEOC and sexual harassment laws passed decades ago; they become incensed when women talk about rape; they become incensed when women talk about domestic violence; they repeatedly defend accused rapists over victims; hey insist men are oppressed more than women; they insist male privilege doesn't exist; they insist white privilege doesn't exist. All of those are conservative positions. Claiming to be a liberal really means little when one consistently opposes liberal positions on equal rights.

If you watch this video, you will recognize some of these arguments commonly raised on DU.

That you think what has been said to you is more hateful than the beating, rape, and mutilation of women really says everything. Your ego is so important it trumps women's lives. What more is there to say to someone who thinks something like that?

Don't worry about what I think about you because the fact is I don't, unless presented with one of your self pity rants and frankly I'm bored with them. While it is understandable that you consider yourself of great importance, it is mistaken to assume I share that view. I really don't care what you think or what you do. You don't need to defend yourself to me. You are entitled to believe whatever you want to. What you are not entitled to do is tell me how I can feel about that. Live your life in peace, forget about me, and spare yourself the indignity of having to read the views of a woman who has the audacity to think that I and not you get to decide what issues matter to me.