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44. It's disgusting. DU now functions as a propaganda outlet.

Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:18 AM

Mar 2014

It's deliberate, and it's despicable.

States that build surveillance machines also build propaganda machines:

Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796

Salon: Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097

Snowden: ‘Training Guide’ for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/

The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111

The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454

Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351

The influx will continue
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4216987

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FUCK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT! [View all] Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 OP

So, did you forget to add a 'sarcasm' thingie ? Tx4obama Mar 2014 #1

I'm sure the OP is part two Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #11

Yes, I am too glad DI brought up Grayson, Sanders, and Kucinich.. they can Cha Mar 2014 #14

I bet thats it... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #25

It boggles the mind rufus dog Mar 2014 #2

Can we at least substitute a couple of characters for the middle part of the word? I realize that okaawhatever Mar 2014 #3

+1 nt No Vested Interest Mar 2014 #8

+2 Hekate Mar 2014 #19

Please find the nearest small paper bag and breathe inside at regular intervals. pa28 Mar 2014 #4

Fuck you FredisDead Mar 2014 #5

Brad was always the smarter one. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #17

Is "Fuck you Mr President" the new "Thanks Obama"? Cha Mar 2014 #6

+1000 JoePhilly Mar 2014 #73

I think so. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #161

But, it's a chance to Knee Jerk ignorant obscenities at Pres Obama so Cha Mar 2014 #163

All I know is that without ACA... Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2014 #166

I'm so glad it's helping you, LFR! Cha Mar 2014 #167

You mean FUCK YOU KOCHS and KOCH-SUCKERS ErikJ Mar 2014 #7

I was about to PM Skittles... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #9

Like he wrote it. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #10

Yeah, you are grossly underestimating the President. Cha Mar 2014 #13

What would you forgive the President if JEB Mar 2014 #12

I think it was more like poor homework done rather than slam dunk denial. Whisp Mar 2014 #15

Go back and read it. He had already done most of the work suggested. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #122

Actually, as of this morning it seemed that Will had not filed a written appeal, nor obtained writte msanthrope Mar 2014 #147

I wouldn't blame the President... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #16

mr pitt lol DiverDave Mar 2014 #24

Well put treestar Mar 2014 #95

Posted earlier ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #162

This!! Control-Z Mar 2014 #168

But ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #169

Kick! Cha Mar 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author cui bono Mar 2014 #133

The anger expressed is awkward polynomial Mar 2014 #20

When in danger or in doubt... Hekate Mar 2014 #21

It's only whiney rich people complaining. joshcryer Mar 2014 #22

You may have a point ProSense Mar 2014 #29

At least ACA haters will be conditioned to single payer costs. joshcryer Mar 2014 #32

josh, can you elaborate please ? steve2470 Mar 2014 #47

Single payer would be a prograssive tax. joshcryer Mar 2014 #50

isn't the prograssive tax the tax on the new legal weed in CO? dionysus Mar 2014 #88

I haven't seen such insensitivity since Free Republic stopped Andy from getting chemo loudsue Mar 2014 #23

I agree - I am tired of folks who TBF Mar 2014 #26

This OP is in response to William Pitt, who is unlikely to be impoverished. joshcryer Mar 2014 #35

*snarf* WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #38

NH's progressive medication subsidies should cover you. joshcryer Mar 2014 #41

Not snarking--but everyone seems to confuse Medicare and Medicaid, or at least to typo tblue37 Mar 2014 #72

Joshcryer, I AM in one of those souther states, but that doesn't mean I'm as cold as the repukes loudsue Mar 2014 #115

Huh? joshcryer Mar 2014 #141

I'm top 5% income... Adrahil Mar 2014 #69

Of course you do - TBF Mar 2014 #78

OK.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #80

Yes I know the script - TBF Mar 2014 #87

That doesn't change by playing right into their hands. Adrahil Mar 2014 #92

We have different thoughts TBF Mar 2014 #96

Then you are one 5% person who is going on ignore. loudsue Mar 2014 #110

Attacking the victim TBF Mar 2014 #75

The top fucking 5% are not 'victims.' joshcryer Mar 2014 #143

You must've missed the part TBF Mar 2014 #145

If Will was 840high Mar 2014 #91

You think all press works for the beltway establishment press? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #106

Thank you, TBF. I'm sick of it too. loudsue Mar 2014 #113

You must not malign the President. It causes fear, anger, hate and the vapors. morningfog Mar 2014 #27

? Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #86

It's an ignorant way of saying.. it's okay use malicious venom "fuck the used car salesman.. Cha Mar 2014 #159

That is clear. And it brings out those who probably supported his mentor, Joe Lieberman, too. loudsue Mar 2014 #117

"Is there not ANY decency in DU anymore?" ProSense Mar 2014 #30

There was no excuse to allow insurance companies to deny drugs seveneyes Mar 2014 #37

Your comment is fact-free. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #39

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #53

No, and please, spare me. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #56

The fact that that post was hidden by a jury is proof positive loudsue Mar 2014 #111

Have you noticed that you are super duper okay with personal attacks? Number23 Mar 2014 #164

What a cop out. It's his signature achievement! cui bono Mar 2014 #136

It's what a prepubescent does when they're having a temper tantrum.. reach for their favorite Cha Mar 2014 #151

Sickening isn't it? SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #33

It's disgusting. DU now functions as a propaganda outlet. woo me with science Mar 2014 #44

"DU now functions as a propaganda outlet." ProSense Mar 2014 #59

Oh the irony.... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #60

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #62

LOL! truebrit71 Mar 2014 #63

I understand it a lot more better than you. ProSense Mar 2014 #65

Okay, you just nailed that one. That was classic Number23 Mar 2014 #165

And we have been completely infiltrated. loudsue Mar 2014 #118

I have no love of FR, but explain how bloggers stopped someone's medical care? OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #55

DUer\activist Andy Stephenson was dying of cancer... and had no money to pay. DU and other outlets dionysus Mar 2014 #93

Wow, that's pretty damn horrendous. (nt) Inkfreak Mar 2014 #152

I've done some reading, and I'm of two minds OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #179

Why are certain posters allowed to break the rules? nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #67

Excellent, long-standing point. n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #102

Well, if you'll notice, there are a bunch of post numbers on this thread that have disappeared. loudsue Mar 2014 #171

No, the indecency was started in the original thread frazzled Mar 2014 #68

Well said. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #109

Oh please, Julie. loudsue Mar 2014 #121

Beyond low. demmiblue Mar 2014 #148

Wow! You *know* me? I don't know you. Interesting. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #186

Yah ... that's the one that lands you on ignore 1000words Mar 2014 #188

lolz You've been here 7 months. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #191

I am in a similar situation to Will Pitt, so I know EXACTLY what he was talking about: loudsue Mar 2014 #120

He was better off before the ACA? frazzled Mar 2014 #128

...."and I don't care".... that says everything you needed to write. loudsue Mar 2014 #130

pitt got banned from DU for sending someone else a threatening PM.. Yeah, Cha Mar 2014 #153

Yep, I got a nasty-gram a few years back. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #175

No doubt it's Obama's fault.. retroactively. Cha Mar 2014 #176

I can see why you would have no patience for his rage.. Cha Mar 2014 #185

Sensitivity requires us to agree? treestar Mar 2014 #94

Some people think Pres Obama is their personal Whipping Post.. Cha Mar 2014 #154

Maybe it is ... sheshe2 Mar 2014 #177

! City Lights Mar 2014 #98

Yes, the lack of empathy is breathtaking to behold. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #127

+1 I was the first to alert. cui bono Mar 2014 #131

Dramatic much? nt Logical Mar 2014 #28

There is something of a disconnect... uriel1972 Mar 2014 #31

What a ProSense Mar 2014 #34

Ahem... uriel1972 Mar 2014 #42

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #43

That belief is delusional, however, the ACA is not killing anyone. Not even the Koch brothers geek tragedy Mar 2014 #52

a clarification on MS drugs blindersoff Mar 2014 #107

Thank you for your most reasonable post. Control-Z Mar 2014 #170

Yeah, excuse malicious ignorance because that "certain someone" needs a handy Cha Mar 2014 #158

Aw. Somebody needs a hug. Iggo Mar 2014 #36

Obama is a one percenter. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #40

That is not very good logic. LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #45

Being compassionalte towards a duer during a tough time.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #46

I can be both compassionate LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #49

It's unthinkable, isn't it. woo me with science Mar 2014 #48

You are mistaking the ethical principle with a legal one LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #51

That is, quite simply, garbage. woo me with science Mar 2014 #54

There is no ethical reason LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #58

You mean a republican program nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #108

I missed some of those posts the first time! Thank you for those! loudsue Mar 2014 #123

Who decides if anger is justified? You? Autumn Mar 2014 #57

Generally the person making the argument LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #61

In that case Will's anger is justified. Autumn Mar 2014 #70

And what has any of that to do with Obama? LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #76

Obama, a man who said the bill I sign MUST contain a public option, is where the Autumn Mar 2014 #81

I dont mind agreeing to disagree LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #99

Your first sentence and I need go no further, Autumn Mar 2014 #103

He also said the bill had to have a lot of other things that it DOES have. phleshdef Mar 2014 #137

Seriously, ProSense Mar 2014 #77

Seriously. Maybe he just left the "vile attack" to piss you off Autumn Mar 2014 #82

Maybe, but the excuse is still a weak one. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #84

It's like if I am angry with my neighbour Whisp Mar 2014 #85

I know right? LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #100

Thank you, LostOne4Ever for being rational on this subject.. lots of Wealthy People are not Cha Mar 2014 #174

Yeah, don't give a shite when someone uses the President as their personal whipping post Cha Mar 2014 #156

I am not sure if he IS trying to do good. hfojvt Mar 2014 #64

How can you have universally available health insurance with no mandate? NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #66

I dunno hfojvt Mar 2014 #74

<sigh>.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #79

it is not "essentially" a mandate hfojvt Mar 2014 #101

Yes. It is. phleshdef Mar 2014 #139

taxes are a mandate to pay taxes - period hfojvt Mar 2014 #146

Ok, so you were wrong, so its time for big government boogey man rhetoric. phleshdef Mar 2014 #149

so now I am convinced hfojvt Mar 2014 #184

And candidate Obama was wrong and he admits to that. You have to have some kind of mandate... phleshdef Mar 2014 #138

"the financially able" is a key item there hfojvt Mar 2014 #144

A tax is still a mandate, by definition. You support a mandate whether you want to admit it or not. phleshdef Mar 2014 #150

Simple: You get access to health care by being born. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #116

Paying taxes = a mandate. phleshdef Mar 2014 #140

The difference is I think OwnedByCats Mar 2014 #180

For sure. phleshdef Mar 2014 #181

No, you're right OwnedByCats Mar 2014 #183

yea, the ACA completely sucks because.... steve2470 Mar 2014 #71

What a horribly insensitive post. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #83

I used to make passive-aggressive call-outs too... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #89

I find it helps to use the sarcasm tag, even when it is obvious it is, like this post uppityperson Mar 2014 #90

R#57 & K n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #97

Let the church say Amen and thank God it's sarcasm! mfcorey1 Mar 2014 #104

Your insensitive and lack of humanity nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #105

And France and Italy both have formularies. This isn't an ACA issue at all. It's a formulary msanthrope Mar 2014 #112

Fuck you, repukes and DINOs! KamaAina Mar 2014 #114

+1000000. Yup. Fuck purchased government. Fuck purchased politicians. woo me with science Mar 2014 #119

***Dealing with the roadblocks that happen with serious chronic illnesses is difficult ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #125

Ugly, nasty, uncalled for, brutal and typcial Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #126

Right because you NEVER post anything that fits that description... phleshdef Mar 2014 #134

hope you feel better, fuckface frylock Mar 2014 #129

"hope you feel better, fuckface".. and for any alerts out there.. I'm quoting the above post. Cha Mar 2014 #155

... TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #172

FUCKING RECCED FOR CUTTING THROUGH THE BULLSHIT! phleshdef Mar 2014 #132

LOL, shocked! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #157

And a hearty FU to any Democrat (or politician) who votes to help your fellow Americans! Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2014 #135

ROFL! Cha Mar 2014 #160

When it comes to the ACA it sounds like a lot of people here. iandhr Mar 2014 #142

Doesn't matter.. "The President is a POS Used Car Salesman".. according to Cha Mar 2014 #173

Obama can go self-fornicate. Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #178

Thanks Obama, You #@$$%%^&&*((() blankity blank blank.. Cha Mar 2014 #182

I'm sensing a little hostility here, bad day at the water cooler? Rex Mar 2014 #187

Fuck Yeah. Cha Mar 2014 #189

The drama never ends Vattel Mar 2014 #190