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In reply to the discussion: "But we couldn't *possibly* have gotten single payer!" [View all]ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...you can't see the forest for the trees. Bogged down in the details, you are unable to grasp the big picture.
The point I and others have been making is that one starts from the MOST one wants when negotiating. If done right, that can change the forces at play. But our Democrats barely even TRIED to do that. Instead of acting as a party with a vision, they acted as technocrats. They jumped right into the weeds and started trimming them, but they never considered draining the swamp.
I am arguing that our side had a flawed strategy, and you are countering with arguments about tactics. I don't disagree with your points, they are just non-responsive at the level of strategy and what could have been done to create more of a movement in the direction we would have liked.
We are talking past one another at this point.
TTFN