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In reply to the discussion: Presidents should be questioned and confronted, not idolized [View all]POsphere
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There's a huge space between seeing a POTUS as a respectable figure who can be criticized >
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#1
Of course your "respect for the office" argument falls apart with a republican president
whatchamacallit
Mar 2014
#4
I didn't say "respect for the office". I intentionally said respect for a President of the USA who
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#9
We should care about the level of political discourse, which apparently is the topic here. Or is it
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#165
Maybe the millions of innocent victims he created many of whom are still trying to get
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#247
Well, I've pretty much followed your advice when criticizing policies of not just this president but
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#26
It's nice to see some civility. It's too bad that everyone with policy disagreements could not get
totodeinhere
Mar 2014
#215
Part of the problem is that Bush left such a rancid stench on the office that
totodeinhere
Mar 2014
#218
I'm with you on that. And I fail to see how the phrase is any different from "respect the badge"...
Marr
Mar 2014
#219
They are executives. Marketing is done by subordinates. Can they do much to rally people
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#16
How can you respect an executive that carries the wrong message, shaped by his marketeers?
MrMickeysMom
Mar 2014
#87
"salesman"? really? Now the Piece of shit used car salesman is reduced to "salesman"? I don't
Cha
Mar 2014
#44
Gee, when FDR referred to a "Day that will live in infamy," no one called him a "piece of shit used
MADem
Mar 2014
#179
He made two posts. The first one did call the President a 'piece of shit' and a 'used car salesman'.
randome
Mar 2014
#118
So, in the term "Millionaire Used Car Salesman" the "Millionaire" bit refers to the CAR, not the
MADem
Mar 2014
#263
No, no President deserves the benefit of the doubt. On the contrary, the People deserve the truth.
Scuba
Mar 2014
#25
When any elected official is pushing bad policies they do NOT deserve the 'benefit of the doubt'.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#30
Do you think that opposing the TPP is tilting at windmills? Do you think we should just
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#157
I have never called anyone out for posting about the TPP. Yes, I think it's a legitimate issue.
randome
Mar 2014
#193
I believe leadership at that level has to foster some semblance of Stoicism.
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#11
Certain qualities of "leadership" correlate strongly with psychopathic traits.
Spider Jerusalem
Mar 2014
#84
Every person who SEEKS the office knows the awful power that comes with it...
cherokeeprogressive
Mar 2014
#39
I know. But it *is* required to support Democrats - especially in an election year.
BlueCaliDem
Mar 2014
#135
Exactly. People here hide their demonization as fair criticism. That's the problem.
berni_mccoy
Mar 2014
#75
Bullshit. Obama gets criticized every day by people using lies lovingly crafted by Republicans.
baldguy
Mar 2014
#132
There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#8
So, you think that presidents should be sanctified when they take office?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#53
Just an observation that some times an ass can say something a lot of humans can agree upon.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#64
Perfect post. It has always tickled me to no end that the ones throwing "lockstepper" and
Number23
Mar 2014
#100
I find the current President infinitely more admirable than his most unfair critics here
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#31
Most people possess & exhibit a propensity for lying, and a bolstered sense of self and, certainly,
lumpy
Mar 2014
#57
I think there should be a bipartisan effort to strengthen the legitimacy of the office myself.
GiveMeMorePIE
Mar 2014
#35
It was Bush that destroyed the legitimacy of the office and the absolution of Bush
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#40
Presidents' actions or lack thereof are certainly open for either criticism or praise, imo...
Spazito
Mar 2014
#37
No one here has announced there should be no criticism of the Prez or stand by him right or wrong.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#65
It doesn't take much brain power to figure out what is criticism and what is bashing.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#111
It doesn't take superhuman powers to divine what is criticism and what is bashing.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#134
Nobody's fucking "idolizing".. and this is where the communication breaks down. You cover up the
Cha
Mar 2014
#45
People would like to think that politicians are "leaders" rather than public servants.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#47
Thanks for correcting that. I have gotten to the point I don't bother. Google would prove most
freshwest
Mar 2014
#271
Sometimes I think there is a strong corrolation between partisanship and authoritarianism. nt
rrneck
Mar 2014
#50
it's very clear based on him never objecting to attacks on republicans and this being DEMOCRATIC
JI7
Mar 2014
#167
no it's not , look at the board DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND , you have to consider the context of where
JI7
Mar 2014
#172
I will ask again, are you intending to extend this courtesy to all Presidents
nadinbrzezinski
Mar 2014
#108
Interesting that, huh? But we have some here who freely admit they are former GOP but always post
freshwest
Mar 2014
#187
I was looking for some information on her trip there... And one of the first search resutls was a
freshwest
Mar 2014
#273
Yes, the executive office connects with the message and leads as a result...
MrMickeysMom
Mar 2014
#88
When I hear the attackers of the president come up with 1 good idea, I might listen to them
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#92
And it is proving to be a problem. Time will tell whether the problem will be solved.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#137
I agree. Out of context. Plus the whiners have 0 ideas. I've yet to hear one. They have none. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#250
DAMN right and WELL said! Full marks for you, go to the head of the class!!!!! nt
MADem
Mar 2014
#180
Politicians are servants of the people...and anyone who is abusive towards their servants is an ass.
MADem
Mar 2014
#178
Come on--this IS a partisan website, after all. You are, since you've been here as long as I have,
MADem
Mar 2014
#258
Leaders and those in positions of power should always be under much more scrutiny.
L0oniX
Mar 2014
#208