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In reply to the discussion: How to Lie with Rape Statistics: America's Hidden Rape Crisis [View all]Bonobo
(29,257 posts)71. I will. I did not originally know the actual article was available for everyone.
I assumed some kind of subscription was needed. I will try to find the time to read it now.
I was not pretending. I genuinely thought -erroneously- that only the abstract was available.
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designating a complaint as "unfounded", as a lesser offense; failing to create a written report
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#2
considerable undercounting from 1995 to 2012. conservatively estimates that 796,213 to 1,145,309
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#3
Instead of experiencing the widely reported "great decline" in rape... a hidden rape crisis. nt
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#4
total validation of my argument and confirmation to what i have been saying. thank you redq,
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#5
when i sit with three other women. four of us. ask, how many rapes amongst us. the number at 4
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#7
Are you seriously suggesting relying on anecdotal evidence rather than data?
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2014
#33
it told me the FBI numbers were bullshit, while the men and MRA's held up the FBI numbers as
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#34
It "sounds" right, intuitively. But that's assuming there's a strong correlation between rape and
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#46
The "propagandists" at the Bureau of Justice Statistics have a slightly different take.
Comrade Grumpy
Apr 2014
#8
“The National Crime Victimization Survey Is Likely Undercounting Rape and Sexual Assault.”
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#11
Until the NISVS has some years of data under it's belt, the NCVS is the only one that can show trend
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2014
#19
wrong numbers are wrong numbers. simply that. ncvs numbers are wrong. so we have NO numbers.
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#20
you can chat trend, assume and all the rest. i disagree and wont play the game,
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#29
No, that's simply wrong. Wrong numbers can still provide useful information.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2014
#31
i disagree. agenda teaches us otherwise when we find it. as we did in FBI numbers.
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#32
When trying to understand how prevalent rape is... Using wrong numbers is wrong
Ohio Joe
Apr 2014
#39
Are you not reading what I am saying, or just ignoring it? Or do you think there is a mistake in it?
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2014
#41
It may well be significantly lower. But I don't see how anyone can argue that it's not unacceptably
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#47
conservatively estimates that 796,213 to 1,145,309 complaints of rapes have disappeared
Ohio Joe
Apr 2014
#49
that would be crimes not written down, investigated, taken serious. that would be crimes ignored.
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#50
It's worse then that... Those are only the "forcible vaginal rapes of female victims"
Ohio Joe
Apr 2014
#51
oh... and the victim had to be over 12, and the no alcohol. you know. what is that shit. read
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#53
All seems to be for the purpose of massaging the numbers so they don't look so bad.
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#80
There really does seem to be a huge effort from a small group here trying to convince
JTFrog
Apr 2014
#54
"Because evolution" - yes, sex is a natural human (and animal) behavior, so what? What does that
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#81
yes. it is nation wide. it is voluntary. it is a horrible way to have a reality check for crimes.
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#12
Yes, it is often intentionally done to cook the books / make the numbers look good.
redqueen
Apr 2014
#14
+1. i could nto agree with you more. and it is du's loss when redq feels the need to step away.
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#17
k and r with deepest thanks, redqueen. but we are constantly told that there is NO war on women.
niyad
Apr 2014
#18
there are just so many factors with rape. it is not the same as other crimes. and does not have
seabeyond
Apr 2014
#52
"The OP asks us to believe a 200 word abstract"... There is a 60 page paper that goes along with it
Ohio Joe
Apr 2014
#64
I will. I did not originally know the actual article was available for everyone.
Bonobo
Apr 2014
#71
She made no attacks whatsoever against you personally. Unless you identify as an MRA
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#82
"...refer to anti-rape prevention campaigns as 'haranguing men' or misandrist."
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#83
For whatever reason some have a vested interest in convincing people down is up
Major Nikon
Apr 2014
#75
"Men" like that should be offered a free vasectomy at best, quarantined at worst.
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#85