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In reply to the discussion: I'm getting really sick of the whole "Comrade Eddie" BS from some [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Everything is not about Obama. Facts that exist in the world that might in some tangential way indicate the Obama administration is not perfect in every way -- which by the way, it is not -- are not put forward for the sole purpose of offending his fans.
In fact, Republicans never have had a particular problem with the NSA scandal. To this day, amidst all of their yapping about Benghazi and the ACA and whatever else is in their craw, it's only misguided Obama partisans that view the NSA scandal as "about" Obama.
And no, the NSA did not "have a warrant." Not for the mass data collection from Americans suspected of nothing it didn't. Even the FISA court said it violated the Constitution, well after Obama was in office.
And no one worships Snowden. He's a leaker, and the leaks were good, and we are now having a useful conversation about reeling in the out-of-control surveillance state that no one honestly thinks is a good idea, or hasn't gone well beyond any kind of national security or anti-terrorism needs that we may have.
And every time you go with "Eddie" and all that silliness, it just underlines that this is all just silly, petty, spiteful name calling, because there is no reasonable argument to be made that the leaks were a bad and terrible thing just trying to make Obama look bad. And no one is going to discredit the NSA scandal on the theory that we all have contempt for "Eddie" the leaker, or "Eddie, the Commie."
Nobody thinks that.
It is ironic, in fact that calling people Commies to discredit them is the very height of rightwing idiocy.