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In reply to the discussion: I'm getting really sick of the whole "Comrade Eddie" BS from some [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)325. All move toward the goal of restoring Justice, incessantly.
We know many of their names and a lot of what they've done. Even just mentioning them to people who may or may not know -- Somehow the information environment changes every time we bring their wrongdoing to light. For example, WikiLeaks brought to light many examples of the US Govt-Big Business symbiosis for private gain.
"What has Wikileaks ever taught us?" ... Read on ...
How often have we been told in world-weary tones that Wikileaks has revealed nothing new - especially by those who want to appear to be in the know? Here is an aide-mémoire of a few of the highest profile revelations.
RYAN GALLAGHER
OpenDemocracy.net, 17 February 2011
Since 2006, whistleblower website WikiLeaks has published a mass of information we would otherwise not have known. The leaks have exposed dubious procedures at Guantanamo Bay and detailed meticulously the Iraq War's unprecedented civilian death-toll. They have highlighted the dumping of toxic waste in Africa as well as revealed America's clandestine military actions in Yemen and Pakistan.
The sheer scope and significance of the revelations is shocking. Among them are great abuses of power, corruption, lies and war crimes. Yet there are still some who insist WikiLeaks has "told us nothing new". This collection, sourced from a range of publications across the web, illustrates nothing could be further from the truth. Here, if there is still a grain of doubt in your mind, is just some of what WikiLeaks has told us:
American planes bombed a village in Southern Yemen in December 2009, killing 14 women and 21 children (see Amnesty)
The Secretary of State's office encouraged US diplomats at the United Nations to spy on their counterparts by collecting biographic & biometric information (see Wired.com)
The Obama administration worked with Republicans to protect Bush administration officials facing a criminal investigation into torture (see Mother Jones)
A US Army helicopter gunned down two Reuters journalists in Baghdad in 2007 (see Reuters)
US authorities failed to investigate hundreds of reports of abuse, torture, rape and even murder by Iraqi police and soldiers (see the Guardian)
In Iraq there were scores of claims of prison abuse by coalition forces even after the Abu Ghraib scandal (see the Bureau of Investigative Journalism)
Afghan President Hamid Karzai freed suspected drug dealers because of their political connections (see CBS News)
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed support for the concept of land swaps (see Yahoo News)
The United States was secretly given permission from Yemen's president to attack the Al-Qaeda group in his country (see the Guardian)
Then-Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld and his top commanders repeatedly knowingly lied to the American public about rising sectarian violence in Iraq beginning in 2006 (see the Daily Beast)
The US was shipping arms to Saudi Arabia for use in northern Yemen even as it denied any role in the conflict (see Salon.com)
Saudi Arabia is one of the largest origin points for funds supporting international terrorism (see the Guardian
A storage facility housing Yemen's radioactive material was unsecured for up to a week (see Bloomberg)
Israel destroyed a Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007, fearing it was built to make a bomb (see the Sunday Times)
Top officials in several Arab countries have close links with the CIA (see the Peninsula)
Swiss company Trafigura Beheer BV dumped toxic waste at the Ivorian port of Abidjan, then attempted to silence the press from revealing it by obtaining a gagging order (see WikiLeaks)
Pakistan's government has allowed members of its spy network to hold strategy sessions on combating American troops with members of the Taliban (see the New York Times)
A stash of highly enriched uranium capable of providing enough material for multiple "dirty bombs" has been waiting in Pakistan for removal by an American team for more than three years (see CBS News)
US military Special Operations Forces have been conducting offensive operations inside Pakistan, despite repeated denials from US officials (see the Nation)
China was behind the online attack on Google (see ZDNet)
North Korea is secretly helping the military dictatorship in Myanmar build nuclear and missile sites in its jungles (see CBS News)
The Indian government "condones torture" and systematically abused detainees in the disputed region of Kashmir (see CBS News)
The British government has been training a Bangladeshi paramilitary force condemned by human rights organisations as a "government death squad" (see the Guardian)
BP suffered a blowout after a gas leak in the Caucasus country of Azerbaijan in September 2008, a year and a half before another BP blowout killed 11 workers (see the Guardian)
Saudi Arabia's rulers have deep distrust for some fellow Muslim countries, especially Pakistan and Iran (see CBS News)
Saudi Arabias King Abdullah repeatedly urged the United States to attack Iran (see the Guardian)
Iranian Red Crescent ambulances were used to smuggle weapons to Lebanon's militant Hezbollah group during its 2006 war with Israel (see CBS News)
Dozens of US tactical nuclear weapons are in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium (see Jerusalem Post)
The Libyan government promised "enormous repercussions" for the UK if the release of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber, was not handled properly (see CBS News)
Pope Benedict impeded an investigation into alleged child sex abuse within the Catholic Church (see MSNBC)
Sinn Fein leaders Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness carried out negotiations for the Good Friday agreement with Irish then-prime minister Bertie Ahern while the two had knowledge of a bank robbery the Irish Republican Army was planning to carry out (see CBS News)
Anglo-Dutch oil giant Royal Dutch Shell PLC has infiltrated the highest levels of government in Nigeria (see the Guardian)
A US official was told by Mexican President Felipe Calderon that Latin America "needs a visible US presence" to counter
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's growing influence in the region (see Yahoo News)
Cuba's economic situation could become "fatal" within two to three years (see Business Week)
McDonald's tried to delay the US government's implementation of a free-trade agreement in order to put pressure on El Salvador to appoint neutral judges in a $24m lawsuit it was fighting in the country (see the Guardian)
British officials made a deal with the US to allow the country to keep cluster bombs in the UK despite the ban on the munitions signed by Gordon Brown (see Politics.co.uk)
The British government promised to protect America's interests during the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war (see the Guardian)
The US government was acting on behalf of GM crop firm Monsanto in 2008, when the US embassy in Paris advised Washington to start a military-style trade war against any European Union country which opposed genetically modified (GM) crops (see the Guardian)
Pfitzer tested anti-biotics on Nigerian children, contravening national and international standards on medical ethics (see Medical News Today)
Prisoners at Camp Delta (Guantanamo Bay) were denied access to the Red Cross for up to four weeks (see the Telegraph)
More than 66,000 civilians suffered violent deaths in Iraq between 2004 and the end of 2009 (see the Telegraph)
Russia is a virtual mafia state with rampant corruption and scant separation between the activities of the government and organised crime (see the Guardian)
The Obama administration tried to sweet-talk other countries in to taking Guantanamo detainees, as part of its (as yet unsuccessful) effort to close the prison (see the New York Times)
Cross posted with the Frontline Club. Open Source
SOURCE (w links): http://www.opendemocracy.net/ryan-gallagher/what-has-wikileaks-ever-taught-us-read-on
That's just a tiny fraction, of course. If you get a moment, you may enjoy a collage of the players who got caught -- and some of the higher-ups who await trial -- toward the end of Baby Doc Bush's reign, Know your BFEE: WikiLeaks Stratfor Dump Exposes Continued Secret Government Warmongering.
Thank you, erronis, for understanding what this is about. A hearty welcome to DU! Please give Them the What's For!
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I'm getting really sick of the whole "Comrade Eddie" BS from some [View all]
unreadierLizard
Apr 2014
OP
Surveillance has it's merits; it was used to quickly apprehend the boston marathon bombers
JJChambers
Apr 2014
#13
Sounds incredibly untruthful. do you have any credible sources for your claims? nt
okaawhatever
Apr 2014
#326
and it's a horrible precedent to set for when another ALEC-republican takes office
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#194
More than once; and the Koch - funded CATO Institute paid him a stipend for over a year to
MADem
Apr 2014
#264
Well, I don't think the NSA is "fine" but I don't think that makes Glenn Greenwald a font of
MADem
Apr 2014
#281
I don't have to "debunk" a thing--actions speak loudly, and when they're accompanied
MADem
Apr 2014
#283
He could be a spy for the US. Why else would the US Government force him into Russia
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#338
Faux agrees with you on Greenwald. They are certain, and always have been, that
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#342
Well, Faux likes the CATO institute, and so does Greenwald--so they have a few things in common, now
MADem
Apr 2014
#344
Oh, it's a talking point. Already established, quite some time ago. Kos talked to the
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#358
Kos is an ex-Republican with a corporate POV. He was hoping to parlay his "net cred"
MADem
Apr 2014
#360
The reason I love when people drag this Cato Talking point up is that I KNOW the facts about it. And
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#363
Naaah...you don't "love" it at all. Otherwise you wouldn't keep insisting how much you love
MADem
Apr 2014
#369
Kudos to Greenwald and all the other Democrats who used Cato to slam Bush's policies.
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#370
Okay, I do love it. Massive spying on the American by the NSA is a crime against the
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#372
You're faulting someone for using the dictionary definition of a word, instead of
merrily
Apr 2014
#117
The goal of surveillance should be prevention. Obviously, it is not being used that way.
merrily
Apr 2014
#114
Calling it surveillance dignifies it and makes it seem like something that has
merrily
Apr 2014
#129
How many crimes were prevented by surveillance in Stalin's USSR or Hitler's Germany?
nxylas
Apr 2014
#317
But before they got to NYC to do it again...you do realize they were on their way to
MADem
Apr 2014
#225
I am not sure what you you mean. What is it that you don't think they even thought about?
merrily
Apr 2014
#220
That tragedy highlighted the fact that the destruction of our Constitutional rights based on the
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#337
We are all against that crap. Every law put in place 11 days after 9/11 should be abolished.
Sunlei
Apr 2014
#54
I understand where you are coming from, but whistle blowers have been forced into breaking laws.
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#271
The delicious irony of it is that it attempts to smear Snowden with a Cold War Era slur,
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#101
To put it bluntly, the one who coined Comrade Eddie isn't the smartest tool in the shed.
Autumn
Apr 2014
#132
Snowden blew the whistle on Booz Allen Hamilton and its treasons on behalf of NSA.
Octafish
Apr 2014
#103
I will bet that you knew we were spying on foreign countries even before Snowden told you.
A Simple Game
Apr 2014
#48
Of course they knew. Not only has it been Spy vs. Spy for like forever, but, on the other
merrily
Apr 2014
#206
Maybe we didn't "know the specifics", but I bet China and Russia already knew them.
A Simple Game
Apr 2014
#323
because up to that point, other countries had no idea that we were spying on them
frylock
Apr 2014
#138
What DU people keep overlooking is that the US would stop him once he's outside Russian airspace.
ancianita
Apr 2014
#12
It's not as though anyone can be certain the whole trip to Hong Kong wasn't a charade
pnwmom
Apr 2014
#15
And the antics with the Bolivian president's plane and the physical and very real attempts
JDPriestly
Apr 2014
#50
True. Snowden, who was a two-time donor to the Ron Paul campaign, and who despises the New Deal,
Tanuki
Apr 2014
#17
So Snowden was a dumb fuck reactionary? So what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? n/t
2banon
Apr 2014
#68
^^you'd think folks would be all over that, if ideological purity meant that much to them.
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#198
Maybe it's because HRC was 17 at the time, and quickly changed her thinking as soon as she
Tanuki
Apr 2014
#221
I would respond with an obvious answer but we have already established you don't like that
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#347
He's also right-handed, yet I see no one referring to him that particular and wholly accurate descri
LanternWaste
Apr 2014
#377
Snowden had the misfortune of doing his duty under a Democratic administration
seveneyes
Apr 2014
#21
"if Snowden had leaked these documents with, say, President John McCain or Mitt Romney..."
Chan790
Apr 2014
#28
I believe that Snowden knew the risk of imprisonment and did what he did anyway.
merrily
Apr 2014
#191
It's an old Right Wing, McCarthyite attempt to change the subject from the crimes committed by
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#31
People like Snowden make this country look good. It tells the world that the Corporate Media doesn't
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#226
"Traitor, Mr. Dickerson? To what? The British Crown? Or the British half-crown?"
Demeter
Apr 2014
#69
Whereas I will hear out rational arguments against Snowdens whistle blowin regarding Constitutional
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#39
if the spying he revealed was against china, yes he would be a traitor under Bush. just as he is now
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#73
I will go thru it slower. Those that spew hatred for Snowden do so because
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#215
Same people that don't realize that we are not living under a democracy anymore.
L0oniX
Apr 2014
#199
IMHO they live in a state of denial and hate it when someone tries to look behind the
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#218
nah - like a certain sub-sect that you find on the fringe of all ideological movements - they are
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2014
#306
I dont care if people dont like Snowden. What bothers me are those that disparage
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#255
"Stop the distractive obsession with vilifying Snowden." I so agree. Thanks. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#387
So what you're saying is he's a cowardly criminal afraid to face the music for his crimes.
MohRokTah
Apr 2014
#63
Um Okay, I guess you decided not to take my advice as evidenced by your reply
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#286
This absurd question demonstrates you have never looked into Eddie Galt's past. eom
MohRokTah
Apr 2014
#151
That's two questions you've refused to answer when you had no answer.
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2014
#205
That's twice you've ignored facts surrounding Effie Galt and made some sort of accusation
MohRokTah
Apr 2014
#231
a few twists of fate and they'd be calling him "Hong Kong Tong Eddie" or "altiplano-skipping,
MisterP
Apr 2014
#67
I think a criminal complaint charging him with violating the Espionage Act counts
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#120
yes it was a chinese paper he gave an interveiw to and revealed what PLA systems the US was hacking
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#175
I disagree. I think my snowden sucks credentials are pretty solid around here but
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#229
so… a documentary film maker and indie blogger apparently made the highest bid?
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#192
We will probably never know what information has been 'leaked' to foreign countries.
randome
Apr 2014
#250
"But one thing we do know is that Snowden, by giving everything he had to others, put many national
grasswire
Apr 2014
#253
You seem to be in full agreement with Snowden when he mirrored bin laden's words,
Wash. state Desk Jet
Apr 2014
#359
Indeed..if one uses binary thinking, it is difficult to place yourself within the narrative.
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#134
No...Comrade Eddie leaked nothing that had not been apparent to anyone who was paying
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#165
When Section 215 is reauthorized because we had a depressed voter turnout, and
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#172
Given the press conferences, the Ted appearances, and the film festival appearances...
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#355
No....I'm pointing out that the narrative is not always what it seems. You are avoiding
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#261
just b/c you don't see it as a big deal, doesn't mean it's not a big deal.
nashville_brook
Apr 2014
#186
Poor Edward, for he did not know what he was doing, he's just an activist,
Thinkingabout
Apr 2014
#161
you seem to be suggesting that when a Democratic Administration is doing something that we would be
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2014
#164
Maybe the brobdingnagian hypocrisy of the NSA's quasi-Stasi behavior being covered up
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#272
There were also the successful attempts to prevent him flying to Latin America.
dipsydoodle
Apr 2014
#233
I disagree.. I think he's a lying libertarian asshole who has made this too much about himself..
Cha
Apr 2014
#249
Some of the apologists may be Administration sock puppets paid to influence public opinion, you know
blkmusclmachine
Apr 2014
#254
I always thought it was odd that there were (1) fancy posters for a pro-Snowden demo in Hong Kong
flamingdem
Apr 2014
#263
They so piously take offense to "comrade eddie" but freely dish out "authoritarian"/ "nsa
Cha
Apr 2014
#311
I wish only knew what Danziger thought of this latest stunt, but Charlie Pierce...
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#312
Either way, the USG is massively violating our constitutional rights, and with our money,
merrily
Apr 2014
#368