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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 02:45 PM Apr 2014

Obama to reward colleges of education whose grads get students to raise test scores. More testing?? [View all]

You have got to be kidding me. I can't believe that with all the outrage from parents and teachers over the high pressure testing that he is going to add more of it.

It bothers me that Obama and Duncan support Teach for America strongly whose recruits have 5 weeks training in teaching. It bothers me that after all the attacks on teachers to the point that many GOOD teachers are losing their careers due to ed "reform"......that there is now a new front in the war on public education.

Now they are going after the colleges and universities and rewarding them if their graduates get students to have higher test scores.

No other country has this much high-stakes standardized testing. It seems like the testing companies have a stranglehold on our Democrats.

Obama plans new regulation on colleges of education

The Obama administration’s obsession with standardized test scores knows no bounds. The newest example: a plan to spend millions of dollars to reward those colleges of education whose graduates, among other things, are successful in raising their students’ standardized test scores.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan hopes to have a draft regulation ready by this summer and implement this program sometime within the next year, according to this story by my colleague, Lyndsey Layton. She quoted Duncan as saying: “Programs that are producing teachers where students are less successful, they either need to change or do something else, go out of business.”


The administration’s move will please school reformers and anger critics, such as Carol Burris, an award-winning principal in New York, who said:

“So what will this incentivize? Schools of education trying to help their students get jobs in more successful schools, rather than schools with at-risk kids or schools that are struggling. It will incentivize schools of education focusing on how to teach for the test. It is designed to reward the so-called teacher training programs such as Relay and Match, which are led by the charter school community. These schools focus on teaching test prep techniques. This is one more bow to the charter chains who are now getting into the teacher preparation business. This is one more example of a bad policy that comes from a Department of Education that has no understanding of teaching and learning”.


The White House policy director had this to say, and it leaves no doubt of their support of the testing and more testing policy. No doubt at all.

“What happens in the classroom matters. It doesn’t just matter — it’s the whole ballgame.” So using student outcomes to evaluate teacher preparation programs “is really fundamental to making sure we’re successful,” Muñoz said. “We believe that’s a concept … whose time has come.”


This makes it clear that test scores are the goal. Not learning for the sake of learning....but how the student scores on a test.



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Well, it meets his apparent standards for good policy. vi5 Apr 2014 #1
He did say that. madfloridian Apr 2014 #2
Correction vi5 Apr 2014 #15
payback time for the corporate owners of our government officials nt msongs Apr 2014 #3
I'd rather see rewards for colleges that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #4
Agreed completely Xyzse Apr 2014 #5
Thank you madfloridian ... wavesofeuphoria Apr 2014 #6
"does anyone in the DOE know ANYTHING about teaching, learning to teach, learning?" madfloridian Apr 2014 #7
Very sad, and it is overwhelming to think about how we'll reverse all the mess...sigh. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #8
Oh noes, "high pressure testing" woolldog Apr 2014 #9
No, they reflect practice on testing procedure and test skills. madfloridian Apr 2014 #10
Bullshit. woolldog Apr 2014 #11
My children had MUCH less testing (and test prep) at their elite and very expensive private school. deurbano Apr 2014 #16
And? woolldog Apr 2014 #17
Same reason you're telling us your life story. deurbano Apr 2014 #21
The additional details are to provide context. deurbano Apr 2014 #22
I went later than you, and went to catholic school. woolldog Apr 2014 #25
The teachers are only "imported" because the "fancy" school is Mandarin immersion. deurbano Apr 2014 #29
The public schools are so bad now woolldog Apr 2014 #30
Have to agree to disagree.. That hasn't been my kids' experience. deurbano Apr 2014 #31
This is all very interesting, but im not sure what you're disagreeing with me on. woolldog Apr 2014 #32
I disagree that: "The public schools are so bad now." That's not my kids' experience in comparison deurbano Apr 2014 #35
Ok woolldog Apr 2014 #36
No, my kids go to school in San Francisco. deurbano Apr 2014 #39
I would be willing to bet that you took far fewer tests than students in public schools dsc Apr 2014 #19
Every week, grades 1-8, in my catholic grammar school woolldog Apr 2014 #23
Nice post, Rick Berman Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #38
Please ignore the grammatical errors in my post. woolldog Apr 2014 #24
You might walk into a wall with your nose that high in the air MattBaggins Apr 2014 #27
Yes, because wanting kids to get the same quality education I did woolldog Apr 2014 #28
Not sure about that KamaAina Apr 2014 #20
then would you like to explain how my autistic son passed 6th, 7th, and 8th grade math and not liberal_at_heart Apr 2014 #33
You're comparing the general American population to third world elites. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #37
My thoughts on your post and my experiences professionaly: The Straight Story Apr 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author madfloridian Apr 2014 #12
Okay, the more testing the better. madfloridian Apr 2014 #13
Go Team! 1000words Apr 2014 #14
Don't know who he's going to get to do it; 76% of the higher ed workforce is part-time. Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #18
Obama has stabbed students and teachers in the back too much. I will not vote for ANY Democrat Orlandodem Apr 2014 #26
Education is the reason I am an independent now. liberal_at_heart Apr 2014 #34
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