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bvar22

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26. I appreciate all the work you have done on this issue, mad.

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:12 PM

Apr 2014

I understand if you need a break.

Most of the ugliness comes from just a handful.
If you leave,...they win.

Woo explains it:

The goal is not to convince anyone of anything.

It is to thoroughly hijack, pollute and therefore eliminate public spaces where real discussion and organization can occur. Occupy is disbanded with clubs and pepper spray. Dissent and organization online are disrupted with surveillance and propaganda.

It is no accident that propaganda brigades post new threads on discussion boards far out of proportion to their presence in the community, and that they nearly *always* demand the last word in any interchange.

The goal is to disrupt the important public space for liberal thought, discussion, and organization that these boards offer, and to keep the participants busy instead batting off the corporate lies and talking points.

woo me with science Sun Jul 28, 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

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Pearson imposes gag order on teachers about test. [View all] madfloridian Apr 2014 OP

The tests merely test for talent at taking tests and nothing more. It's BS. I also don't know how Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #1

With "shaky voice and tears" Missouri teacher testifies about gagging teachers. madfloridian Apr 2014 #2

... progressoid Apr 2014 #7

Please don't stop posting, madfloridian. Baitball Blogger Apr 2014 #3

I second this ^^^ catchnrelease Apr 2014 #9

I third this ^^^ Chiquitita Apr 2014 #15

Damn right! ^^^ DeSwiss Apr 2014 #17

+1000 TeamPooka Apr 2014 #24

^^^^^^^What BB said! Squinch Apr 2014 #27

Don't stop thinking about tomorrow, Bortman33 Apr 2014 #28

+10000 - Madfloridian shone the light on the San Diego Harriet Tubman Principal/Bully AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2014 #36

Guess what. I found a You Tube video about that teacher she bullied. madfloridian Apr 2014 #42

...^ that 840high Apr 2014 #52

Couldn't agree more! cyberswede Apr 2014 #64

+100. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #70

^^^^Me too!^^^^ Enthusiast Apr 2014 #71

This! ^^^ CrispyQ Apr 2014 #97

I am not a teacher. I did go to school and take various SheilaT Apr 2014 #4

Very much agreed. And back in the fifties, and through till mid-mineties, truedelphi Apr 2014 #103

too many are making too much $$$ bbgrunt Apr 2014 #5

Rahm Emanuel and Arne Duncan would be a good place to start looking, bvar22 Apr 2014 #22

+1! Thank you, bvar22! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #72

I would really like to know just why liberalhistorian Apr 2014 #102

I had to sign a confidentiality agreement when I worked for Pearson BainsBane Apr 2014 #6

I scored state assessment tests for Pearson for 5 years, too. nt tblue37 Apr 2014 #67

am i the only one who thinks this makes sense? mopinko Apr 2014 #86

The context is completely different here kmlisle Apr 2014 #105

This policy allows flawed questions that are alarming teachers to keep on being used.... madfloridian Apr 2014 #113

Surreptitiously Release Info and Use All Media LarryNM Apr 2014 #8

Why on earth would any state with millions of dollars to offer sign a contract with those clauses? pnwmom Apr 2014 #10

Kick and Rec'd so you won't stop posting here! FloriTexan Apr 2014 #11

These tests are very good at one thing and one thing only... Blue Idaho Apr 2014 #12

This report indicates Pearson's desperate attempt to keep itself profitable and indispensable. ancianita Apr 2014 #13

What our party has done to corporatize education is an embarrassment. progressoid Apr 2014 #14

I agree. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #73

...one of my last posts about education at DU. Piasladic Apr 2014 #16

Yup, I second that... Agony Apr 2014 #18

I third that. Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #31

They who divide, conquer. Octafish Apr 2014 #19

Hey d_r Apr 2014 #20

k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #21

Won't leave, just will write about other stuff. madfloridian Apr 2014 #30

You opened a lot of eyes to San Diego Harriet Tubman Principal/Bully situation AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2014 #37

your input is greatly needed and appreciated on this site bbgrunt Apr 2014 #65

Infiltrated by sock puppets. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #75

Please don't stop posting. We need this info. txwhitedove Apr 2014 #23

I'm wondering if any non-public schools use the same tests? LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #25

Interesting question NobodyHere Apr 2014 #34

In Florida... HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #62

I appreciate all the work you have done on this issue, mad. bvar22 Apr 2014 #26

Woo explained it well. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #77

Exactly!!! BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #96

Pearson is a WMD sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #29

I'm new to teaching, but I can confirm that what you say is true. reformist2 Apr 2014 #35

Please don't stop posting!! Lifelong Protester Apr 2014 #32

Standardized tests are way overrated. We need to trust teachers again to teach their students. reformist2 Apr 2014 #33

^^ This. winter is coming Apr 2014 #50

Yep. I'm at a high school, and everyone is in "prep for the test" mode from now until June. :( reformist2 Apr 2014 #51

It is a nightmare jopacaco Apr 2014 #38

we're paying attention. But just like health care and workplace safety and the environment, Doctor_J Apr 2014 #40

I remember teaching 4th grade when the FCAT reading test started. madfloridian Apr 2014 #41

Well, if someone puts you on ignore and is then PPRed, winter is coming Apr 2014 #48

The billionaires have two huge pies left to steal from the public. SS is still off limits Doctor_J Apr 2014 #39

63 recs, almost 1300 views, and 41 positive responses in less than 4 hrs. PLEASE don't stop! riderinthestorm Apr 2014 #43

I, for one, LWolf Apr 2014 #44

What would happen if ALL of the students decided to select answer "B" to ALL of the questions? CrispyQ Apr 2014 #99

You might be able to get them to do that. LWolf May 2014 #116

You'd have to launch a campaign to raise awareness. CrispyQ May 2014 #117

Don't give up.. sendero Apr 2014 #45

Well, here's one far-leftist that opposes "reforms" that turn kids into robots for the corps. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #46

Thanks. madfloridian Apr 2014 #55

PS 321 Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #47

The Ed Biz controls education. . .and no one cares because business is good! Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #49

I wish you would reconsider. I am more than familiar with many educators in my state, a few are Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #53

Don't stop posting - this leftist supports you. TBF Apr 2014 #54

Here's a passage and questions from their test -- which shows why they needed the gag order. pnwmom Apr 2014 #56

I remember the pineapple fiasco. Guess Pearson wised up after that.... madfloridian Apr 2014 #58

I hope you keep posting on this. It is a big issue for me. pnwmom Apr 2014 #60

Pineapple hare race should be a meme...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #89

A link to show the difference between DKos and DU on education issues. madfloridian Apr 2014 #57

No wonder you're not going to continue to write on this topic. Dramatic difference in reception Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #83

K&R'd. I have to say, the level of disinterest in this issue has been mind-boggling, snot Apr 2014 #59

I think you are right. madfloridian Apr 2014 #63

Please keep posting. greatlaurel Apr 2014 #61

Someone should leak. nt tblue37 Apr 2014 #66

What's the punishment if they talk about it? joshcryer Apr 2014 #68

That is what I was wondering as well davidpdx Apr 2014 #69

We value your insight on education reform. K&R! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #74

How does a private corporation impose a gag order? Scuba Apr 2014 #76

Please keep posting! Nt abelenkpe Apr 2014 #78

I found errors in the PA Biology Keystone test perdita9 Apr 2014 #79

Please don't let this go malokvale77 Apr 2014 #80

I frequently disagree with you... Blanks Apr 2014 #81

"It doesn't hurt anything for people to get a little ugly with one another" madfloridian Apr 2014 #82

I agree nobody 'needs' to get ugly... Blanks Apr 2014 #85

I am one of many who find your posts to be of great value, madflo... truth2power Apr 2014 #84

Please don't stop posting about alsame Apr 2014 #87

"Gag order." It seems to me I see a lot of those lately. malthaussen Apr 2014 #88

AFT reps at London HQ of Pearson protesting gag order. madfloridian Apr 2014 #90

Why would anybody in their right mind be a teacher? Brigid Apr 2014 #91

What a scam this all is. NCLB on steroids now. Education for profit. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #92

A couple of comments about Pearson and testing. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #93

Not when they are dealing with our children. They must be transparent. madfloridian Apr 2014 #94

There's a simple fix. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #95

Madfloridian, It is so wonderful that you have taken the time and the truedelphi Apr 2014 #98

Keep posting, please, but don't think you speak for all teachers Android3.14 Apr 2014 #100

I admit bias in favor of the students' needs. Lacking in critical analysis? No, it isn't. madfloridian Apr 2014 #106

Interesting. I have the same bias in favor of student's needs Android3.14 Apr 2014 #107

Oh, hell, I don't believe in research or facts. madfloridian Apr 2014 #108

It's a discussion if I have an impact on your viewpoint Android3.14 Apr 2014 #110

You don't get it. madfloridian Apr 2014 #111

"if my arguments make you appear uninformed, then perhaps you should examine that." madfloridian Apr 2014 #112

If we have to have these standardized tests, make the damn politicians take them! truedelphi Apr 2014 #101

Stay up playa and don't let the big mouthed scallywags beat you down. TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #104

Arne calls policy criticism..."lots of drama, lots of noise." madfloridian Apr 2014 #109

I've been passing on links to your education posts here since '06. Mc Mike Apr 2014 #114

don't let the bastids get ya down. KG Apr 2014 #115