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(58,179 posts) Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:28 PM Apr 2014

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"We raise girls to cater to the fragile egos of men." [View all]

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"We raise girls to cater to the fragile egos of men." [View all] WilliamPitt Apr 2014 OP

Love this! AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #1

This is a good start on a subject which needs lots of discussion Mondavi May 2014 #226

'They grow up to be women who silence themselves..." DebJ May 2014 #2

Yup, lol, there around. Nt seabeyond May 2014 #3

Yup. Jamastiene May 2014 #47

I did not wait until 40. TNNurse May 2014 #185

lol tn. welcome. and i hear ya. not that i can get fired, but.... seabeyond May 2014 #186

It's not just the US. I tell my wife Chinese men are insecure so Chinese women have to be Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #4

"I tell my wife"...."she agrees completely" Tanuki May 2014 #40

Maybe I used the wrong words. "I have a discussion with my wife about this topic. Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #42

I guess I hit a nerve. You're doing a lot of projecting there. n/t Tanuki May 2014 #43

You insulted me and the way I treat my wife. And you insulted her by saying Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #50

Hear, Hear! Demeter May 2014 #55

My wife seems to have no problems with me. Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #61

I am supporting your argument Demeter May 2014 #106

I didn't read the comment as an insult to your wife or to you... magical thyme May 2014 #59

Yep. n/t Tansy_Gold May 2014 #80

Great Observation. eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #81

Exactly! Squinch May 2014 #136

Totally an insult... c'mon, laughing smily? nt. druidity33 May 2014 #153

I read it the same way that you did. Your statement didn't have to be interpreted in an insult duhneece May 2014 #101

No, You did NOT say anything to deserve that snarky, rude response. 2banon May 2014 #188

can you stop using every thread about sexism to insert Asian stereotypes? CreekDog May 2014 #248

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"you are nuts" really? seabeyond May 2014 #253

looks like he can't post in this thread anymore... CreekDog May 2014 #258

"well, in theory..." seabeyond May 2014 #259

Actually, that poster can't post anywhere for a while. MineralMan May 2014 #264

ding ding ding Supersedeas May 2014 #103

In the past anyway, girls are liT-relly taught to coddle and stroke male ego. seabeyond May 2014 #5

So very true GeoWilliam750 May 2014 #145

good point geo. emotionally it makes men weaker. contributing to it. yet, i find seabeyond May 2014 #148

Ha! Mrs. Goldstein must have been raised by wolves then! MannyGoldstein May 2014 #6

What country is she talking about because it's not the U.S ? oneofthe99 May 2014 #7

Try opening your eyes. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #15

And ears. nt Warpy May 2014 #32

It's every country. n/t chervilant May 2014 #39

Are you paying attention? Mira May 2014 #70

Exactly Harmony Blue May 2014 #72

Empowerment is an attack on men? I've heard that some thought that, but I didn't believe it. Squinch May 2014 #284

It's everywhere, even here Marrah_G May 2014 #73

Oh don't go asking that 'round here! Vashta Nerada May 2014 #122

Obnoxious VN. No one is gonna waste time explaining when you make clear seabeyond May 2014 #128

I have never seen this Vashta Nerada May 2014 #142

you do not look. you do not pay attention. it is in front of your face, and do not see. seabeyond May 2014 #143

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emotional bs? where did that come from? out of no where. wait woman. accuse her of emotional bs seabeyond May 2014 #146

That you have no idea what you're talking about. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #147

wtf??? still didnt read the info i linked to you? keep the fingers in their ears seabeyond May 2014 #149

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ah. using "emotional" on me didnt fly. throwing your "teaching credentials" at me didnt impress. seabeyond May 2014 #151

Performance artist isn't an insult. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #152

omg... lol. talk ego. I'll email my professors and let them know non teachers think they know what seabeyond May 2014 #156

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my gosh. you put me in my place by calling me emotional, without teaching credentials, now resort seabeyond May 2014 #162

Sea, make sure others know that you are quoting the poster above you. boston bean May 2014 #164

you think i covered it? lol. geez. that is something. nt seabeyond May 2014 #168

And the results are in! Texasgal May 2014 #165

i dare, i double dog dare juror 5 to say... hi. lol. how about exasperated at the juror seabeyond May 2014 #169

And ONE juror actually voted "LEAVE IT ALONE"???? alp227 May 2014 #184

ah. really. NO ONE on du would EVaH use the b word on their fellow duers. nope. not gonna ever seabeyond May 2014 #187

He is not only flagged now, he has his five hidden posts and will be taking a break Bjorn Against May 2014 #194

I agree.... Dorian Gray May 2014 #230

He's been banned. cyberswede May 2014 #245

I'm glad. He was disruptive and downright mean most of the time. MerryBlooms May 2014 #251

And he was propped up far too long. JTFrog May 2014 #293

That juror should be removed from the jury pool BainsBane May 2014 #196

He was a sock, and he was banned. cyberswede May 2014 #243

Someone told me that was from another jury BainsBane May 2014 #244

He was the lone "leave" vote on the "jump off a bridge" post. nt cyberswede May 2014 #246

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you hope some guy rapes me? how old are you? 8 seabeyond May 2014 #204

I just alerted on that post, sea. UtahLib May 2014 #205

ya, well... i guess he gets off on his rape porn. filth. wants to share with all. seabeyond May 2014 #206

i guess we are seeing what happens when we do not stroke SOME male ego. nt seabeyond May 2014 #208

Good job! Thanks! Rhiannon12866 May 2014 #212

i assume it was seabeyond May 2014 #216

There was no dissent among MIRT, either Rhiannon12866 May 2014 #217

Thank you, Admin and the great jurors! UtahLib May 2014 #218

Thanks for your quick alert... Rhiannon12866 May 2014 #219

LOL, thanks MIRT. nt UtahLib May 2014 #220

Out of curiosity, I checked some of his other posts Scootaloo May 2014 #229

Wow... Most unified jury I've been on. Thor_MN May 2014 #207

thank you for providing the jury. first... get raped post i have had. i am THRILLED seabeyond May 2014 #209

I found that post so upsetting UtahLib May 2014 #210

ya. he has been here before. i was going over his posts. a couple months ago i was seabeyond May 2014 #214

Yeah, 1 post in GD in the last 90 days. UtahLib May 2014 #221

I'd never seen a jury where everyone added comments. Thor_MN May 2014 #211

i noticed that also. seabeyond May 2014 #215

And if that isn't an illustration as to what women posting on the internet regularly sees, KitSileya May 2014 #223

sounds like a typical porn shot. perusing previous posts, he was sure to share watching porn seabeyond May 2014 #239

that is either an angry sock puppet, or some troll who knows your posts too well... dionysus May 2014 #225

Wow Dorian Gray May 2014 #231

Sweet Jesus, sea. Raven May 2014 #232

Apophis was probably Vashta CreekDog May 2014 #254

i know creekdog. lol. that we deal over and over. seabeyond May 2014 #256

Vashta and apophis were PPR'd but not before serving on 28 juries CreekDog May 2014 #250

yes. always inciting. always jabbing with a stick. from day one. and we had to repeatedly seabeyond May 2014 #255

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Banned. chrisa May 2014 #263

I sure hope admin looks at juror #5! What a blankety blank. n/t Whisp May 2014 #270

i think you showed us all what you are in this thread, buddy... dionysus May 2014 #222

He showed EarlG, at least cyberswede May 2014 #242

Excellent! greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #262

I'm so sorry - Yesterday I accidentaly voted to keep the post above yours. myrna minx May 2014 #237

i hear ya. happens to all of us. i am impressed with the ones that did get hidden. seabeyond May 2014 #238

You mean you never wanted to see it Warpy May 2014 #154

hey, you are a non teacher. he is going to email his teacher and tell on you, ... that you seabeyond May 2014 #158

I'm an old woman Warpy May 2014 #160

it really is true warpy. and it really is for the health of men. emotional health. seabeyond May 2014 #163

He claimed to be a grad student in an anthropology program BainsBane May 2014 #272

Depends on the family, depends on the community. No society is immune. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #140

I haven't seen this here in the US. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #8

Most Muslim countries women are objects oneofthe99 May 2014 #9

Ah. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #10

I had to look up who she is oneofthe99 May 2014 #12

I have lived in Europe and in Mira May 2014 #74

In the rural/red parts of the US Tumbulu May 2014 #13

I strongly second your post! nt raccoon May 2014 #48

+1 LiberalLoner May 2014 #49

stroke mans ego. sit quietly and be nice. literally what girls were taught. nt seabeyond May 2014 #52

agree! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #63

I'm 52 from a small town in SD hfojvt May 2014 #107

well, lucky you! Tumbulu May 2014 #174

so you say hfojvt May 2014 #273

I've lived in rural America most of my adult life Tumbulu May 2014 #299

Much as many fish are unaware of the very water they swim in... LanternWaste May 2014 #300

I was raised that way. knitter4democracy May 2014 #14

Alas. That's the *principal* part; not the "male" part. Smarmie Doofus May 2014 #38

I have bhikkhu May 2014 #16

I teach a couple of undergrad classes and I have never seen this. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #17

Women are well represented in social and medical sciences, but are shut out of math-related fields bhikkhu May 2014 #19

It's not discrimination...women just are not very attracted to STEM majors davidn3600 May 2014 #31

That's a "women have better opportunities" argument bhikkhu May 2014 #66

The capitalists would fire a lot more males since females could do the same work Harmony Blue May 2014 #75

Do you have something to back that up? Very rarely have I seen VPs and Directors getting laid seaglass May 2014 #108

But the question isn't about more vs. less skilled Orrex May 2014 #134

I was responding to the specific point that employers fire higher paid rather than lower paid seaglass May 2014 #175

I know, but the poster's point was, in fact, based on equally-paid employees Orrex May 2014 #183

there is a perception of value- like how employers screen out people with ethnic names, and women or bettyellen May 2014 #189

Are we comparing apples to apples here? Im not so sure.... davidn3600 May 2014 #166

That's also looking at the results of discrimination and assuming that they were a matter of choice bhikkhu May 2014 #179

incredibly sexist notions you have there David! bettyellen May 2014 #224

Incredibly sexist to suggest the genders can have differences by nature? davidn3600 May 2014 #228

of course you haven't complained when men are paid more CreekDog May 2014 #234

What does that have to do with what's being discussed here? davidn3600 May 2014 #241

Gender equality has everything to do with your posts here and on women's health insurance CreekDog May 2014 #257

yes, shrugging and saying "that is society" is the same as saying blacks have innate tendencies and bettyellen May 2014 #296

in math and science, it is very very common. bettyellen May 2014 #28

My own experience in STEM kmlisle May 2014 #88

Yeah, when we ALL have anecdotal stories like that, you know there is something more at work! bettyellen May 2014 #90

public accolades? By whom? hfojvt May 2014 #109

An ambitious young intelligent male is a admired as a role model anywhere bhikkhu May 2014 #178

Girls get better grades in all topics - including math and science. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #111

SAT are certainly suspect as catering to the male ego Mondavi May 2014 #227

Those standardized tests have been proven to have gender and race bias BainsBane May 2014 #282

No. Math has neither a gender nor racial bias. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #286

It isn't just math BainsBane May 2014 #288

I have BainsBane May 2014 #22

Then you're not looking. nt LeftyMom May 2014 #23

It's very common in fundie families. My sister and I were raised this way. Coventina May 2014 #25

You Are Male HangOnKids May 2014 #30

+1 laundry_queen May 2014 #53

Yes. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #85

Well Shit Howdy Aren't You Special? HangOnKids May 2014 #95

Thank you for providing links to prove me otherwise. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #96

Oh. Wait. Nevermind. HangOnKids May 2014 #98

show where any woman ever coddled a mans ego? lol. nt seabeyond May 2014 #102

Both of my very smart daughters, of dating age, defer to male priority in intelligence bhikkhu May 2014 #180

and i have two sons. regardless of teaching, i see the privilege and entitlement, with two boys... seabeyond May 2014 #190

I had a good conversation with my kids about it this evening bhikkhu May 2014 #198

coolest bhik. thank you for sharing this experience. i think the best is to talk about it seabeyond May 2014 #199

You make assertions... Vashta Nerada May 2014 #104

You want a link to my opinion of you? HangOnKids May 2014 #105

Intelligent retort. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #120

Oh it appears you do HangOnKids May 2014 #124

There's an old saying intaglio May 2014 #34

Then you haven't been paying attention because it exists. Skidmore May 2014 #44

I see it all around us. Marrah_G May 2014 #84

Really? I saw this today: SomethingFishy May 2014 #117

Listen to that. Such horrible monsters us women are. I heard whoredom today. seabeyond May 2014 #121

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164 recommends. i would say you are wrong. maybe you ought to listen to the vast majority. nt seabeyond May 2014 #193

Who is we? Egnever May 2014 #11

You are not - but what is the culture round her teaching her? intaglio May 2014 #36

Good post Harmony Blue May 2014 #77

Good for you. However, your style of parenting is the farm team alp227 May 2014 #130

And yet there is a group of so called feminists who feel that they must Cleita May 2014 #18

Only in the straw feminism that exists in your mind. LeftyMom May 2014 #21

Please explain the straw thing. I notice it as a code word that pops up in Cleita May 2014 #24

Is google down? (link) LeftyMom May 2014 #27

... TBF May 2014 #46

that is excellent leftymom. i have not seen that. perfect explanation. nt seabeyond May 2014 #51

Yay! Starry Messenger May 2014 #138

Obviously you have never heard of a "Straw Man Argument" intaglio May 2014 #35

Oh I have which is why I'm asking. Cleita May 2014 #94

some people, both gender, disagreed with you. pissed you off... seabeyond May 2014 #100

You have made a false characterisation feminists intaglio May 2014 #123

Too fuggin' interesting both lefty and you educating us with this. Ha. Didn't know. Thanks. Nt seabeyond May 2014 #129

Your post was a classic straw man argument gollygee May 2014 #125

straw man defined BainsBane May 2014 #201

please link to this group-because I have never heard of feminsts encouraging women to hide like that bettyellen May 2014 #26

I'm glad at least that you made them "so called" because that means you can conceive... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #37

Who are those? gollygee May 2014 #68

Are you serious? "...feel that they must feel shame...etc?" Gormy Cuss May 2014 #79

Sad but damn true, unfortunately. People like that ARE out there. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #173

No I wasn't talking about all feminists. Actually those Cleita May 2014 #176

Okay, I figured that was the case. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #177

you have heard feminist say lara logan deserved being raped? i need clarity on this statement of seabeyond May 2014 #191

Oh, you mean the ones who have the audacity to disagree with you? BainsBane May 2014 #200

"Yet, they don't support all women when not in lockstep agreement with them." JTFrog May 2014 #247

you got it. i was looking for a gif to express that. came to this, and laughed. seabeyond May 2014 #252

'Some said?' MineralMan May 2014 #260

I can but I won't on this board which is why I speak in the most general of terms Cleita May 2014 #265

Uh-huh... MineralMan May 2014 #266

Your response is exactly what I'm referring to. It would be a waste of time Cleita May 2014 #268

I see. Well, OK, then. MineralMan May 2014 #269

I think your blatant bashing of feminists you don't agree with on a democratic forum JTFrog May 2014 #294

The swarm decends on you intaglio May 2014 #280

Really? Who would that be? BainsBane May 2014 #197

In your fantasy world Lex May 2014 #267

Laugh away. I'm laughing myself at the clap trap that Cleita May 2014 #271

OMG cyberswede May 2014 #281

Shame? what complete and utter bullshit. either you completely misunderstood or you are making bettyellen May 2014 #297

Which is NOT going to happen to Lola! n/t eridani May 2014 #20

We're not gonna take it... Zorra May 2014 #33

Quite true. Laelth May 2014 #41

It's cultural. There's no reason to do it. chrisa May 2014 #54

I find that explanation less-than-satistactory. Laelth May 2014 #58

There really is no point to some things. chrisa May 2014 #62

You may be right. Laelth May 2014 #64

really? seabeyond May 2014 #65

Yep. Really. Laelth May 2014 #67

you are welcome. lol. nt seabeyond May 2014 #76

I believe that individuals can be rational actors. chrisa May 2014 #71

my gosh so many example in every day life. fox news and repugs. all over the place argues the seabeyond May 2014 #78

I think you made a good point here = Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #87

it is based on economic and safety reasons. most women women couldn't earn enough on their own... bettyellen May 2014 #213

It stands to reason that the non-patriarchal societies died out LittleBlue May 2014 #97

Fear of Physical and Economic Abuse, of course Demeter May 2014 #56

And no offense to straight folks who raise their kids this way, but fragile egos Bluenorthwest May 2014 #57

Exactly Harmony Blue May 2014 #69

My husband looks at me funny TBF May 2014 #45

Nice post. Adrahil May 2014 #60

those in denial, womens mag articles, articles in men mag telling women how to keep a man, men are seabeyond May 2014 #82

My wife was never taught any of that upaloopa May 2014 #83

We raise men to have fragile egos, and to expect all women to be their mommy. (n/t) Iggo May 2014 #86

Are men's egos fragile? Is that a question worth discussing? lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #89

In Latin America, mens egos are coddled pretty thouroughly.... bettyellen May 2014 #116

LOL Skittles May 2014 #127

MRAs are evidence BainsBane May 2014 #295

While this is certainly true, I know one father who didn't raise his daughters that way. hamsterjill May 2014 #91

And this is news!? imthevicar May 2014 #92

We raise girls to think that shaking their ass in a guy's face is liberated. Waiting For Everyman May 2014 #93

Actually, it seems to me that SomethingFishy May 2014 #119

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such over the top BS... alp227 May 2014 #133

THIS dad does no such thing VWolf May 2014 #99

True story--ongoing, don't know how it ends Demeter May 2014 #110

This is true. Sissyk May 2014 #112

discussion, understanding, leading to awareness is a big step. dontcha think? nt seabeyond May 2014 #113

It is not that men's egos are more fragile, it is men's power over women. SunSeeker May 2014 #114

right on.... that is why i say, it is not good for women. but damaging for men. nt seabeyond May 2014 #115

Okay, I get it azmom May 2014 #171

I did not raise my daughters onecaliberal May 2014 #118

There are lots of helpless men out there that can barely feed themselves. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #126

My best friend's mom told me to pretend not to be so smart, so boys would like me more. LeftyMom May 2014 #202

ah yes, mixed messages. laundry_queen May 2014 #236

And some of us speak our minds! WinkyDink May 2014 #131

This is true. But we're teaching our daughter the opposite. Arugula Latte May 2014 #132

It's not just what individual parents do Tansy_Gold May 2014 #139

thank you for taking the time, for those that pretend and deny. it is in our face, every second of seabeyond May 2014 #141

Because the message that goes to women . . . Tansy_Gold May 2014 #157

such a good post. for me, to have a congressman stand on the floor and tell women to put an aspirin seabeyond May 2014 #161

We should make a list Tansy_Gold May 2014 #167

this is the POINT tansy. it has gotten so bad. it is said out loud. men shrug it off. as an seabeyond May 2014 #170

another incredible post- thank you nt Tumbulu May 2014 #182

Wonderfully put mercuryblues May 2014 #274

So sadly true and so well written- thank you! Tumbulu May 2014 #181

when we grew up, we were literally taught man was superior. smarter. more capable. women were loved, seabeyond May 2014 #192

got to be one of the very best posts i've seen on DU Scout May 2014 #275

Individual rec! Phentex May 2014 #279

Bingo! Marrah_G May 2014 #285

Posts like yours are rare on DU, thanks for taking the time Tansy. Very well said. n/t seaglass May 2014 #287

+ 1,000,000 MerryBlooms May 2014 #290

So very true. n/t Raksha May 2014 #155

K&R!! hue May 2014 #172

Harry Chapin - "why do the little girls" Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #195

I feel this is strongly linked to the fact that our perception is completely skewed KitSileya May 2014 #233

interesting kit... nt seabeyond May 2014 #235

Here is a little test you can give to your friends. Tansy_Gold May 2014 #276

I wish I could click like on all your posts in this thread. KitSileya May 2014 #277

so sadly true ! nt Tumbulu May 2014 #298

I didn't raise my girl that way MO_Moderate May 2014 #240

K&R. polly7 May 2014 #278

Well said, polly... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #291

hmmmm...where did you send them when you were through? yurbud May 2014 #283

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i agree with you sufrommich, even though you got your post hidden. why? god only knows. seabeyond May 2014 #292