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KitSileya

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223. And if that isn't an illustration as to what women posting on the internet regularly sees,

Fri May 2, 2014, 02:03 AM

May 2014

I don't know what is. Everyone who thinks that feminists just "whine" and play the victim, should click on that post and read it, and imagine getting those in their mailbox, often with personal information attached, making it clear that the person making the threats know exactly who they are in real life. That is what is the standard, not the exception, for women speaking on feminist matters on the internet.

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"We raise girls to cater to the fragile egos of men." [View all] WilliamPitt Apr 2014 OP

Love this! AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #1

This is a good start on a subject which needs lots of discussion Mondavi May 2014 #226

'They grow up to be women who silence themselves..." DebJ May 2014 #2

Yup, lol, there around. Nt seabeyond May 2014 #3

Yup. Jamastiene May 2014 #47

I did not wait until 40. TNNurse May 2014 #185

lol tn. welcome. and i hear ya. not that i can get fired, but.... seabeyond May 2014 #186

It's not just the US. I tell my wife Chinese men are insecure so Chinese women have to be Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #4

"I tell my wife"...."she agrees completely" Tanuki May 2014 #40

Maybe I used the wrong words. "I have a discussion with my wife about this topic. Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #42

I guess I hit a nerve. You're doing a lot of projecting there. n/t Tanuki May 2014 #43

You insulted me and the way I treat my wife. And you insulted her by saying Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #50

Hear, Hear! Demeter May 2014 #55

My wife seems to have no problems with me. Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #61

I am supporting your argument Demeter May 2014 #106

I didn't read the comment as an insult to your wife or to you... magical thyme May 2014 #59

Yep. n/t Tansy_Gold May 2014 #80

Great Observation. eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #81

Exactly! Squinch May 2014 #136

Totally an insult... c'mon, laughing smily? nt. druidity33 May 2014 #153

I read it the same way that you did. Your statement didn't have to be interpreted in an insult duhneece May 2014 #101

No, You did NOT say anything to deserve that snarky, rude response. 2banon May 2014 #188

can you stop using every thread about sexism to insert Asian stereotypes? CreekDog May 2014 #248

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"you are nuts" really? seabeyond May 2014 #253

looks like he can't post in this thread anymore... CreekDog May 2014 #258

"well, in theory..." seabeyond May 2014 #259

Actually, that poster can't post anywhere for a while. MineralMan May 2014 #264

ding ding ding Supersedeas May 2014 #103

In the past anyway, girls are liT-relly taught to coddle and stroke male ego. seabeyond May 2014 #5

So very true GeoWilliam750 May 2014 #145

good point geo. emotionally it makes men weaker. contributing to it. yet, i find seabeyond May 2014 #148

Ha! Mrs. Goldstein must have been raised by wolves then! MannyGoldstein May 2014 #6

What country is she talking about because it's not the U.S ? oneofthe99 May 2014 #7

Try opening your eyes. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #15

And ears. nt Warpy May 2014 #32

It's every country. n/t chervilant May 2014 #39

Are you paying attention? Mira May 2014 #70

Exactly Harmony Blue May 2014 #72

Empowerment is an attack on men? I've heard that some thought that, but I didn't believe it. Squinch May 2014 #284

It's everywhere, even here Marrah_G May 2014 #73

Oh don't go asking that 'round here! Vashta Nerada May 2014 #122

Obnoxious VN. No one is gonna waste time explaining when you make clear seabeyond May 2014 #128

I have never seen this Vashta Nerada May 2014 #142

you do not look. you do not pay attention. it is in front of your face, and do not see. seabeyond May 2014 #143

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emotional bs? where did that come from? out of no where. wait woman. accuse her of emotional bs seabeyond May 2014 #146

That you have no idea what you're talking about. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #147

wtf??? still didnt read the info i linked to you? keep the fingers in their ears seabeyond May 2014 #149

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ah. using "emotional" on me didnt fly. throwing your "teaching credentials" at me didnt impress. seabeyond May 2014 #151

Performance artist isn't an insult. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #152

omg... lol. talk ego. I'll email my professors and let them know non teachers think they know what seabeyond May 2014 #156

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my gosh. you put me in my place by calling me emotional, without teaching credentials, now resort seabeyond May 2014 #162

Sea, make sure others know that you are quoting the poster above you. boston bean May 2014 #164

you think i covered it? lol. geez. that is something. nt seabeyond May 2014 #168

And the results are in! Texasgal May 2014 #165

i dare, i double dog dare juror 5 to say... hi. lol. how about exasperated at the juror seabeyond May 2014 #169

And ONE juror actually voted "LEAVE IT ALONE"???? alp227 May 2014 #184

ah. really. NO ONE on du would EVaH use the b word on their fellow duers. nope. not gonna ever seabeyond May 2014 #187

He is not only flagged now, he has his five hidden posts and will be taking a break Bjorn Against May 2014 #194

I agree.... Dorian Gray May 2014 #230

He's been banned. cyberswede May 2014 #245

I'm glad. He was disruptive and downright mean most of the time. MerryBlooms May 2014 #251

And he was propped up far too long. JTFrog May 2014 #293

That juror should be removed from the jury pool BainsBane May 2014 #196

He was a sock, and he was banned. cyberswede May 2014 #243

Someone told me that was from another jury BainsBane May 2014 #244

He was the lone "leave" vote on the "jump off a bridge" post. nt cyberswede May 2014 #246

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you hope some guy rapes me? how old are you? 8 seabeyond May 2014 #204

I just alerted on that post, sea. UtahLib May 2014 #205

ya, well... i guess he gets off on his rape porn. filth. wants to share with all. seabeyond May 2014 #206

i guess we are seeing what happens when we do not stroke SOME male ego. nt seabeyond May 2014 #208

Good job! Thanks! Rhiannon12866 May 2014 #212

i assume it was seabeyond May 2014 #216

There was no dissent among MIRT, either Rhiannon12866 May 2014 #217

Thank you, Admin and the great jurors! UtahLib May 2014 #218

Thanks for your quick alert... Rhiannon12866 May 2014 #219

LOL, thanks MIRT. nt UtahLib May 2014 #220

Out of curiosity, I checked some of his other posts Scootaloo May 2014 #229

Wow... Most unified jury I've been on. Thor_MN May 2014 #207

thank you for providing the jury. first... get raped post i have had. i am THRILLED seabeyond May 2014 #209

I found that post so upsetting UtahLib May 2014 #210

ya. he has been here before. i was going over his posts. a couple months ago i was seabeyond May 2014 #214

Yeah, 1 post in GD in the last 90 days. UtahLib May 2014 #221

I'd never seen a jury where everyone added comments. Thor_MN May 2014 #211

i noticed that also. seabeyond May 2014 #215

And if that isn't an illustration as to what women posting on the internet regularly sees, KitSileya May 2014 #223

sounds like a typical porn shot. perusing previous posts, he was sure to share watching porn seabeyond May 2014 #239

that is either an angry sock puppet, or some troll who knows your posts too well... dionysus May 2014 #225

Wow Dorian Gray May 2014 #231

Sweet Jesus, sea. Raven May 2014 #232

Apophis was probably Vashta CreekDog May 2014 #254

i know creekdog. lol. that we deal over and over. seabeyond May 2014 #256

Vashta and apophis were PPR'd but not before serving on 28 juries CreekDog May 2014 #250

yes. always inciting. always jabbing with a stick. from day one. and we had to repeatedly seabeyond May 2014 #255

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #261

Banned. chrisa May 2014 #263

I sure hope admin looks at juror #5! What a blankety blank. n/t Whisp May 2014 #270

i think you showed us all what you are in this thread, buddy... dionysus May 2014 #222

He showed EarlG, at least cyberswede May 2014 #242

Excellent! greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #262

I'm so sorry - Yesterday I accidentaly voted to keep the post above yours. myrna minx May 2014 #237

i hear ya. happens to all of us. i am impressed with the ones that did get hidden. seabeyond May 2014 #238

You mean you never wanted to see it Warpy May 2014 #154

hey, you are a non teacher. he is going to email his teacher and tell on you, ... that you seabeyond May 2014 #158

I'm an old woman Warpy May 2014 #160

it really is true warpy. and it really is for the health of men. emotional health. seabeyond May 2014 #163

He claimed to be a grad student in an anthropology program BainsBane May 2014 #272

Depends on the family, depends on the community. No society is immune. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #140

I haven't seen this here in the US. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #8

Most Muslim countries women are objects oneofthe99 May 2014 #9

Ah. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #10

I had to look up who she is oneofthe99 May 2014 #12

I have lived in Europe and in Mira May 2014 #74

In the rural/red parts of the US Tumbulu May 2014 #13

I strongly second your post! nt raccoon May 2014 #48

+1 LiberalLoner May 2014 #49

stroke mans ego. sit quietly and be nice. literally what girls were taught. nt seabeyond May 2014 #52

agree! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #63

I'm 52 from a small town in SD hfojvt May 2014 #107

well, lucky you! Tumbulu May 2014 #174

so you say hfojvt May 2014 #273

I've lived in rural America most of my adult life Tumbulu May 2014 #299

Much as many fish are unaware of the very water they swim in... LanternWaste May 2014 #300

I was raised that way. knitter4democracy May 2014 #14

Alas. That's the *principal* part; not the "male" part. Smarmie Doofus May 2014 #38

I have bhikkhu May 2014 #16

I teach a couple of undergrad classes and I have never seen this. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #17

Women are well represented in social and medical sciences, but are shut out of math-related fields bhikkhu May 2014 #19

It's not discrimination...women just are not very attracted to STEM majors davidn3600 May 2014 #31

That's a "women have better opportunities" argument bhikkhu May 2014 #66

The capitalists would fire a lot more males since females could do the same work Harmony Blue May 2014 #75

Do you have something to back that up? Very rarely have I seen VPs and Directors getting laid seaglass May 2014 #108

But the question isn't about more vs. less skilled Orrex May 2014 #134

I was responding to the specific point that employers fire higher paid rather than lower paid seaglass May 2014 #175

I know, but the poster's point was, in fact, based on equally-paid employees Orrex May 2014 #183

there is a perception of value- like how employers screen out people with ethnic names, and women or bettyellen May 2014 #189

Are we comparing apples to apples here? Im not so sure.... davidn3600 May 2014 #166

That's also looking at the results of discrimination and assuming that they were a matter of choice bhikkhu May 2014 #179

incredibly sexist notions you have there David! bettyellen May 2014 #224

Incredibly sexist to suggest the genders can have differences by nature? davidn3600 May 2014 #228

of course you haven't complained when men are paid more CreekDog May 2014 #234

What does that have to do with what's being discussed here? davidn3600 May 2014 #241

Gender equality has everything to do with your posts here and on women's health insurance CreekDog May 2014 #257

yes, shrugging and saying "that is society" is the same as saying blacks have innate tendencies and bettyellen May 2014 #296

in math and science, it is very very common. bettyellen May 2014 #28

My own experience in STEM kmlisle May 2014 #88

Yeah, when we ALL have anecdotal stories like that, you know there is something more at work! bettyellen May 2014 #90

public accolades? By whom? hfojvt May 2014 #109

An ambitious young intelligent male is a admired as a role model anywhere bhikkhu May 2014 #178

Girls get better grades in all topics - including math and science. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #111

SAT are certainly suspect as catering to the male ego Mondavi May 2014 #227

Those standardized tests have been proven to have gender and race bias BainsBane May 2014 #282

No. Math has neither a gender nor racial bias. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #286

It isn't just math BainsBane May 2014 #288

I have BainsBane May 2014 #22

Then you're not looking. nt LeftyMom May 2014 #23

It's very common in fundie families. My sister and I were raised this way. Coventina May 2014 #25

You Are Male HangOnKids May 2014 #30

+1 laundry_queen May 2014 #53

Yes. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #85

Well Shit Howdy Aren't You Special? HangOnKids May 2014 #95

Thank you for providing links to prove me otherwise. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #96

Oh. Wait. Nevermind. HangOnKids May 2014 #98

show where any woman ever coddled a mans ego? lol. nt seabeyond May 2014 #102

Both of my very smart daughters, of dating age, defer to male priority in intelligence bhikkhu May 2014 #180

and i have two sons. regardless of teaching, i see the privilege and entitlement, with two boys... seabeyond May 2014 #190

I had a good conversation with my kids about it this evening bhikkhu May 2014 #198

coolest bhik. thank you for sharing this experience. i think the best is to talk about it seabeyond May 2014 #199

You make assertions... Vashta Nerada May 2014 #104

You want a link to my opinion of you? HangOnKids May 2014 #105

Intelligent retort. Vashta Nerada May 2014 #120

Oh it appears you do HangOnKids May 2014 #124

There's an old saying intaglio May 2014 #34

Then you haven't been paying attention because it exists. Skidmore May 2014 #44

I see it all around us. Marrah_G May 2014 #84

Really? I saw this today: SomethingFishy May 2014 #117

Listen to that. Such horrible monsters us women are. I heard whoredom today. seabeyond May 2014 #121

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164 recommends. i would say you are wrong. maybe you ought to listen to the vast majority. nt seabeyond May 2014 #193

Who is we? Egnever May 2014 #11

You are not - but what is the culture round her teaching her? intaglio May 2014 #36

Good post Harmony Blue May 2014 #77

Good for you. However, your style of parenting is the farm team alp227 May 2014 #130

And yet there is a group of so called feminists who feel that they must Cleita May 2014 #18

Only in the straw feminism that exists in your mind. LeftyMom May 2014 #21

Please explain the straw thing. I notice it as a code word that pops up in Cleita May 2014 #24

Is google down? (link) LeftyMom May 2014 #27

... TBF May 2014 #46

that is excellent leftymom. i have not seen that. perfect explanation. nt seabeyond May 2014 #51

Yay! Starry Messenger May 2014 #138

Obviously you have never heard of a "Straw Man Argument" intaglio May 2014 #35

Oh I have which is why I'm asking. Cleita May 2014 #94

some people, both gender, disagreed with you. pissed you off... seabeyond May 2014 #100

You have made a false characterisation feminists intaglio May 2014 #123

Too fuggin' interesting both lefty and you educating us with this. Ha. Didn't know. Thanks. Nt seabeyond May 2014 #129

Your post was a classic straw man argument gollygee May 2014 #125

straw man defined BainsBane May 2014 #201

please link to this group-because I have never heard of feminsts encouraging women to hide like that bettyellen May 2014 #26

I'm glad at least that you made them "so called" because that means you can conceive... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #37

Who are those? gollygee May 2014 #68

Are you serious? "...feel that they must feel shame...etc?" Gormy Cuss May 2014 #79

Sad but damn true, unfortunately. People like that ARE out there. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #173

No I wasn't talking about all feminists. Actually those Cleita May 2014 #176

Okay, I figured that was the case. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #177

you have heard feminist say lara logan deserved being raped? i need clarity on this statement of seabeyond May 2014 #191

Oh, you mean the ones who have the audacity to disagree with you? BainsBane May 2014 #200

"Yet, they don't support all women when not in lockstep agreement with them." JTFrog May 2014 #247

you got it. i was looking for a gif to express that. came to this, and laughed. seabeyond May 2014 #252

'Some said?' MineralMan May 2014 #260

I can but I won't on this board which is why I speak in the most general of terms Cleita May 2014 #265

Uh-huh... MineralMan May 2014 #266

Your response is exactly what I'm referring to. It would be a waste of time Cleita May 2014 #268

I see. Well, OK, then. MineralMan May 2014 #269

I think your blatant bashing of feminists you don't agree with on a democratic forum JTFrog May 2014 #294

The swarm decends on you intaglio May 2014 #280

Really? Who would that be? BainsBane May 2014 #197

In your fantasy world Lex May 2014 #267

Laugh away. I'm laughing myself at the clap trap that Cleita May 2014 #271

OMG cyberswede May 2014 #281

Shame? what complete and utter bullshit. either you completely misunderstood or you are making bettyellen May 2014 #297

Which is NOT going to happen to Lola! n/t eridani May 2014 #20

We're not gonna take it... Zorra May 2014 #33

Quite true. Laelth May 2014 #41

It's cultural. There's no reason to do it. chrisa May 2014 #54

I find that explanation less-than-satistactory. Laelth May 2014 #58

There really is no point to some things. chrisa May 2014 #62

You may be right. Laelth May 2014 #64

really? seabeyond May 2014 #65

Yep. Really. Laelth May 2014 #67

you are welcome. lol. nt seabeyond May 2014 #76

I believe that individuals can be rational actors. chrisa May 2014 #71

my gosh so many example in every day life. fox news and repugs. all over the place argues the seabeyond May 2014 #78

I think you made a good point here = Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #87

it is based on economic and safety reasons. most women women couldn't earn enough on their own... bettyellen May 2014 #213

It stands to reason that the non-patriarchal societies died out LittleBlue May 2014 #97

Fear of Physical and Economic Abuse, of course Demeter May 2014 #56

And no offense to straight folks who raise their kids this way, but fragile egos Bluenorthwest May 2014 #57

Exactly Harmony Blue May 2014 #69

My husband looks at me funny TBF May 2014 #45

Nice post. Adrahil May 2014 #60

those in denial, womens mag articles, articles in men mag telling women how to keep a man, men are seabeyond May 2014 #82

My wife was never taught any of that upaloopa May 2014 #83

We raise men to have fragile egos, and to expect all women to be their mommy. (n/t) Iggo May 2014 #86

Are men's egos fragile? Is that a question worth discussing? lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #89

In Latin America, mens egos are coddled pretty thouroughly.... bettyellen May 2014 #116

LOL Skittles May 2014 #127

MRAs are evidence BainsBane May 2014 #295

While this is certainly true, I know one father who didn't raise his daughters that way. hamsterjill May 2014 #91

And this is news!? imthevicar May 2014 #92

We raise girls to think that shaking their ass in a guy's face is liberated. Waiting For Everyman May 2014 #93

Actually, it seems to me that SomethingFishy May 2014 #119

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such over the top BS... alp227 May 2014 #133

THIS dad does no such thing VWolf May 2014 #99

True story--ongoing, don't know how it ends Demeter May 2014 #110

This is true. Sissyk May 2014 #112

discussion, understanding, leading to awareness is a big step. dontcha think? nt seabeyond May 2014 #113

It is not that men's egos are more fragile, it is men's power over women. SunSeeker May 2014 #114

right on.... that is why i say, it is not good for women. but damaging for men. nt seabeyond May 2014 #115

Okay, I get it azmom May 2014 #171

I did not raise my daughters onecaliberal May 2014 #118

There are lots of helpless men out there that can barely feed themselves. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #126

My best friend's mom told me to pretend not to be so smart, so boys would like me more. LeftyMom May 2014 #202

ah yes, mixed messages. laundry_queen May 2014 #236

And some of us speak our minds! WinkyDink May 2014 #131

This is true. But we're teaching our daughter the opposite. Arugula Latte May 2014 #132

It's not just what individual parents do Tansy_Gold May 2014 #139

thank you for taking the time, for those that pretend and deny. it is in our face, every second of seabeyond May 2014 #141

Because the message that goes to women . . . Tansy_Gold May 2014 #157

such a good post. for me, to have a congressman stand on the floor and tell women to put an aspirin seabeyond May 2014 #161

We should make a list Tansy_Gold May 2014 #167

this is the POINT tansy. it has gotten so bad. it is said out loud. men shrug it off. as an seabeyond May 2014 #170

another incredible post- thank you nt Tumbulu May 2014 #182

Wonderfully put mercuryblues May 2014 #274

So sadly true and so well written- thank you! Tumbulu May 2014 #181

when we grew up, we were literally taught man was superior. smarter. more capable. women were loved, seabeyond May 2014 #192

got to be one of the very best posts i've seen on DU Scout May 2014 #275

Individual rec! Phentex May 2014 #279

Bingo! Marrah_G May 2014 #285

Posts like yours are rare on DU, thanks for taking the time Tansy. Very well said. n/t seaglass May 2014 #287

+ 1,000,000 MerryBlooms May 2014 #290

So very true. n/t Raksha May 2014 #155

K&R!! hue May 2014 #172

Harry Chapin - "why do the little girls" Nanjing to Seoul May 2014 #195

I feel this is strongly linked to the fact that our perception is completely skewed KitSileya May 2014 #233

interesting kit... nt seabeyond May 2014 #235

Here is a little test you can give to your friends. Tansy_Gold May 2014 #276

I wish I could click like on all your posts in this thread. KitSileya May 2014 #277

so sadly true ! nt Tumbulu May 2014 #298

I didn't raise my girl that way MO_Moderate May 2014 #240

K&R. polly7 May 2014 #278

Well said, polly... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #291

hmmmm...where did you send them when you were through? yurbud May 2014 #283

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i agree with you sufrommich, even though you got your post hidden. why? god only knows. seabeyond May 2014 #292