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In reply to the discussion: Should the US try to free the kidnapped Nigerian girls using military means? [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)34. Boko Haram- a suitable case for UN-approved intervention
A classic case of 'responsibility to protect'
Principle designed to prevent atrocities undermined by distrust of UK and others using intervention as means for regime change
The whole question of how to intervene, when, and with what, was the subject this week of a high-level roundtable in London run by the British United Nations Association (UNA-UK) on the "responsibility to protect". This principle or pledge - R2P, as it is known - was agreed by heads of state and government at the 2005 UN world summit. It held out the promise of a world free from genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and crimes against humanity.
The principle was employed by the UN security council in response to crises in Darfur, Libya, Ivory Coast, Yemen, South Sudan, and Mali. It raises the whole question of national sovereignty and of (often pre-emptive) "liberal intervention".
On the face of it, the R2P principle should be more acceptable now given that most violent conflicts are intra-state rather than between states.
"Non-state" actors - terrorists, warlords, drug traffickers - are the common enemy of states, east and west - Russia, China, and the US - which otherwise have competing interests.
Boko Haram attacks might seem to be a clear candidate for R2P intervention approved by the UN. The UN should be seen as a legitimate arbiter of intervention, one leading participant at the UNA-UK roundtable suggested.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/defence-and-security-blog/2014/may/08/nigeria-boko-haram-uk-un
Principle designed to prevent atrocities undermined by distrust of UK and others using intervention as means for regime change
The whole question of how to intervene, when, and with what, was the subject this week of a high-level roundtable in London run by the British United Nations Association (UNA-UK) on the "responsibility to protect". This principle or pledge - R2P, as it is known - was agreed by heads of state and government at the 2005 UN world summit. It held out the promise of a world free from genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and crimes against humanity.
The principle was employed by the UN security council in response to crises in Darfur, Libya, Ivory Coast, Yemen, South Sudan, and Mali. It raises the whole question of national sovereignty and of (often pre-emptive) "liberal intervention".
On the face of it, the R2P principle should be more acceptable now given that most violent conflicts are intra-state rather than between states.
"Non-state" actors - terrorists, warlords, drug traffickers - are the common enemy of states, east and west - Russia, China, and the US - which otherwise have competing interests.
Boko Haram attacks might seem to be a clear candidate for R2P intervention approved by the UN. The UN should be seen as a legitimate arbiter of intervention, one leading participant at the UNA-UK roundtable suggested.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/defence-and-security-blog/2014/may/08/nigeria-boko-haram-uk-un
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Should the US try to free the kidnapped Nigerian girls using military means? [View all]
Cali_Democrat
May 2014
OP
I have no idea if the situation is there to carry out a rescue mission with minimal risk of loss of
Douglas Carpenter
May 2014
#2
Yes. Something that is just a rescue effort and then get out, if that is possible.
Squinch
May 2014
#18
No. But I might send them in to destroy both of the religious psycho groups.
PeteSelman
May 2014
#15
I think the use of drones and satellites to provide military intel is warranted.
Kaleva
May 2014
#21
It's a heinous situation but if we're suddenly in favor of playing world police let's discuss terms.
Nuclear Unicorn
May 2014
#22
Depends wholly on the practicalities, which I am not in a position to have an informed opinion on.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2014
#30
No, just tell the Nigerian government to stop dragging their feet and get these girls already
951-Riverside
May 2014
#32
Yes but only with UN authorization to protect (rescue) civilians that the government
pampango
May 2014
#33
Yes - as a singular, covert mission against Boko Haram to rescue any hostages they have
cbdo2007
May 2014
#35