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In reply to the discussion: Porn. Rape? [View all]justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)45. Thank you for pointing out that a rapist
often won't find "relief" from porn (unless it happens to be be rape porn). I am curious how many guys who commit date rape also watch porn.
For the OP:
As far as statistics sighting that rape has decreased, I don't care about the source, but I don't buy it...it's too easy to "cook the books" so to speak.
How Rape Reports Disappear
When a college woman reports a rape to police, it does not often result in a prosecutor pressing charges. Sexual assault is consistently both an underreported crime and one that rarely leads to an arrest, let alone a conviction. However, it may be hard to track exactly how many rape reports are made to begin with.
One study by Corey Rayburn Yung, an associate law professor at the University of Kansas, concluded nearly 1 in 4 police departments responsible for populations of at least 100,000 persons are undercounting rape reports. The undercounting occurs when officers designate a report "unfounded" after little or no investigation, mark down a report as a lesser crime, or mislabel it as "investigate persons" or another noncriminal matter. Separate research by Kimberly A. Lonsway and Joanne Archambault suggested that sometimes police close a case without investigating and simply describe it as "call to service," meaning that it is omitted from the count.
Even among cases categorized as rape, the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Uniform Crime Report indicates that only a quarter of police reports result in an arrest.
...
"We just see this, unfortunately, in a lot of situations where the police seem very eager to dismiss these cases," said Sandra Park, an attorney with the Women's Rights Project at the American Civil Liberties Union.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25/college-sexual-assault-police_n_5213384.html
When a college woman reports a rape to police, it does not often result in a prosecutor pressing charges. Sexual assault is consistently both an underreported crime and one that rarely leads to an arrest, let alone a conviction. However, it may be hard to track exactly how many rape reports are made to begin with.
One study by Corey Rayburn Yung, an associate law professor at the University of Kansas, concluded nearly 1 in 4 police departments responsible for populations of at least 100,000 persons are undercounting rape reports. The undercounting occurs when officers designate a report "unfounded" after little or no investigation, mark down a report as a lesser crime, or mislabel it as "investigate persons" or another noncriminal matter. Separate research by Kimberly A. Lonsway and Joanne Archambault suggested that sometimes police close a case without investigating and simply describe it as "call to service," meaning that it is omitted from the count.
Even among cases categorized as rape, the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Uniform Crime Report indicates that only a quarter of police reports result in an arrest.
...
"We just see this, unfortunately, in a lot of situations where the police seem very eager to dismiss these cases," said Sandra Park, an attorney with the Women's Rights Project at the American Civil Liberties Union.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25/college-sexual-assault-police_n_5213384.html
I'm sure this isn't the only article or source for this information, I know I've seen similar stories on DU in the past when it comes to police departments changing crime designations (i.e. cooking the numbers) to make it appear as though violent, or other crimes in general, have gone down when they really haven't.
You can also see how in some municipalities how important solving rape cases are to them by the backlog of rape kits. A certain Alaskan town comes immediately to mind.
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if anything, stats on reporting should have gone up even if the actual number stayed the same
yurbud
May 2014
#12
neither of the charts account for recent increase in pirates off the African coast
maggiesfarmer
May 2014
#163
Maybe you should leave the stats explanations to people who know the first thing about statistics.
DanTex
May 2014
#58
Can you name a few instances with there's causation, but very strong observed anticorrelation?
MannyGoldstein
May 2014
#65
You'd better tell the American Medical Association that they're wrong, and quick!
MannyGoldstein
May 2014
#73
Sure, that's fine, but the increased mortality even shows up using BMI, evidently.
DanTex
May 2014
#93
The population-level correlation is actually very large. Did you look at those charts?
DanTex
May 2014
#114
Except he never claimed it was causing a decrease in rapes. Also you just used the P word wrong.
Kurska
May 2014
#95
Umm, measured correlations hardly ever come out to exactly 0, causation or not.
DanTex
May 2014
#125
You've had statistics courses? Hmm. I guess you didn't get far enough to cover "correlation".
DanTex
May 2014
#130
No it doesn't hinge on a "choice" of definition. It's *the* definition of correlation.
DanTex
May 2014
#128
A correlation is a precisely defined bivariate statistic, it's not some vague term.
DanTex
May 2014
#166
That's true, but does/did anyone really believe that porn is the primary cause of rape?
DanTex
May 2014
#153
There's no conclusive proof either way, there's basically 2 schools of thought...
Hippo_Tron
May 2014
#10
I was on the jury; here are the results: I hope whoever alerted will read these comments.
CaliforniaPeggy
May 2014
#14
I thought the comments weren't hateful, but rather more full of empathy for the alerter.
CaliforniaPeggy
May 2014
#31
When people want an example of how the alert system is used to try to silence opposing viewpoints,
hughee99
May 2014
#142
However, the incidents of eye-strain and heavy breathing have gone up.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2014
#18
There was a thread yesterday where porn was called out as a cause of sexual violence
MannyGoldstein
May 2014
#157
And, instead of contributing your deep research to THAT thread, you decided to make one of your own!
MADem
May 2014
#170
I have no idea whether porn causes rape, but this doesn't prove or disprove anything.
DanTex
May 2014
#55
Porn watching might -- MIGHT -- lower rape, but I don't consider porn watchers feminists.
ancianita
May 2014
#111
What part of the male performer is worth 60% to 84% less than the female performer?
Orrex
May 2014
#162
Overall the violent stats are down by a similar amount, my guess is there is something bigger at
bettyellen
May 2014
#129
I get it. You are showing how politicians use statistics to back up their "personal" beliefs. nt.
NCTraveler
May 2014
#144