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62. If we don't take responsibility for grievous wrongs (in this case, war crimes) all else rings hollow

Thu May 29, 2014, 09:29 PM

May 2014

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and trust is broken. Being decent and honorable should be the guiding rule.

That's not old fashioned. That is a truth for all time! I suspect Obama must know this in his heart of hearts, but I think there must be forces stronger than him. It seems he had to make a deal with the dark side, so to speak. It all feels very "Faustian" to me.

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Former Counterterrorism Czar Richard Clarke: Bush Committed War Crimes [View all] G_j May 2014 OP

Statute of Limitations? And did they really act without knowledge of certain Congressional merrily May 2014 #1

No statute of limitations on war crimes or crimes against humanity gratuitous May 2014 #8

We have intervened on behalf of Buscho with other nations, after deciding domestically to look only merrily May 2014 #9

All good points gratuitous May 2014 #13

Apparently, Democrats with principles have become an object of ridicule to "pragmatic" Democrats. merrily May 2014 #15

about just the comment "Too bad I can't unknow something once I know it." Leme May 2014 #18

True, we were scammed, it seems. During the Bush years we were led to believe that sabrina 1 May 2014 #24

Even without holding them accountable, I could have lived with it, if merrily May 2014 #25

Here you go: Heywood J May 2014 #31

they don't even trust our medical providers. Leme May 2014 #17

No longer do what? No longer seek information while giving vaccinations? merrily May 2014 #26

just telling you what I think they said Leme May 2014 #27

Oh, I see. I didn't think that there had been any doubt that they had done it. merrily May 2014 #28

File under No Shit. NuclearDem May 2014 #2

Big K&R! This is the criminal who John Kerry and crew should be focusing on quinnox May 2014 #3

+100 million G_j May 2014 #4

Well yeah, but there's a big power difference there. JoeyT May 2014 #12

Fight back? Or line your pockets? merrily May 2014 #16

We've come to learn that well. pacalo May 2014 #23

Impeachment is off the table: Pelosi. Need to look forward and not back: Obama neverforget May 2014 #5

Did Pelosi articulate a valid reason for taking impeachment "off the table"? Martin Eden May 2014 #7

Of course, why Obama wants to get along with a man he campaigned so hard against in 2008, merrily May 2014 #10

* 'unsigned' the US from the ICC right after stealing office, has President Obama resigned to it? If Mnemosyne May 2014 #6

No. delta17 May 2014 #55

I was afraid of that. A damn shame. nt Mnemosyne May 2014 #58

1998: PNAC wanted a "new Pearl Harbor". 2000: Got themselves installed. 2001: MIHOP/LIHOP. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #11

Reformer expans over the years. DhhD May 2014 #57

K&R!!!!!!!!!!! burrowowl May 2014 #14

Duh Solly Mack May 2014 #19

I know right? G_j May 2014 #29

You're right, of course. Solly Mack May 2014 #42

somehow G_j May 2014 #44

It is a topic that many avoid. Solly Mack May 2014 #47

If we don't take responsibility for grievous wrongs (in this case, war crimes) all else rings hollow G_j May 2014 #62

Kicked and recommended for water being wet and fire being hot. Uncle Joe May 2014 #20

Right. We heard you the first time, but it bears repeating because a lot of people were in denial. Hekate May 2014 #21

"Would (charging them with war crimes) be useful?" pacalo May 2014 #22

We also need to ask our own government if they are harboring futitives Major Nikon May 2014 #30

Bush crimes started with the theft of the 2000 election. Enthusiast May 2014 #32

+1000 noiretextatique May 2014 #38

Duh! malaise May 2014 #33

War crimes? Election theft? Oh, crazy DU CTers, this is all just so much woo. Gidney N Cloyd May 2014 #34

+1000. Was just about to post that there's always a contingent bullwinkle428 May 2014 #35

From 2012: New NSA docs contradict 9/11 claims Octafish May 2014 #36

Interesting how the usual suspects never reply in these kind of threads. nt. Rex May 2014 #43

Cowards. Octafish May 2014 #45

Hopefully they are all over at the New Site, having their never ending arguments Rex May 2014 #46

Give em a break. They got some fresh Snowden or Greenwald threads to swarm. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #49

Well as long as we talk about GG/Snowden and NOT the NSA spying on every person in America. Rex May 2014 #51

It's a bit harder I suppose, to attack the messenger here (Clarke) nt G_j May 2014 #60

Love this guy. Would follow him anywhere, the real deal. joanbarnes May 2014 #37

It doesn't matter what you think now.... AnneD May 2014 #39

Shocking, I tell you, shocking indepat May 2014 #40

You Liberals will post anything to change the subject. sellitman May 2014 #41

I thought the current distraction was Snowden. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #50

You don't say, Mr. Clarke! sakabatou May 2014 #48

It would be productive. obxhead May 2014 #52

they see it as leadership, not war crimes SleeplessinSoCal May 2014 #53

An American patriot Faygo Kid May 2014 #54

MUST. blkmusclmachine May 2014 #56

Rec'd for truth and justice, although neither matter to current government Corruption Inc May 2014 #59

Some? Hissyspit May 2014 #61

Now if we can only get the Attorney General to listen Jake2413 May 2014 #63