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In reply to the discussion: Creationists Try to Outsmart Neil deGrasse Tyson on the Great Flood and Climate Change [View all]xchrom
(108,903 posts)2. Watch: The Neil deGrasse Tyson climate denier takedown we’ve been waiting for is finally here
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/29/watch_the_neil_degrasse_tyson_climate_denier_take_down_weve_been_waiting_for_is_finally_here/
Here it is: the truly ultimate guide to shutting down climate trolls, brought to us by the new champion of all things science.
In the upcoming episode of Cosmos, host Neil deGrasse Tyson is taking on climate deniers directly and National Geographic just released the first clip. If these two minutes are any indication of what the rest of the episode (airing Sunday) is going to be like, we can expect a simple, elegant takedown of their most tired and misinformed arguments.
OK, so if we scientists are so good at making these dire, long-term predictions about the climate, how come were so lousy about predicting the weather? Tyson begins by asking, in imitation of those skeptical of climate change. And if the planet is really heating up, he adds, why did some places experience a really cold winter this year?
Tyson then goes on to answer his own question, using the unique image of a man walking on the beach while his leashed dog wanders alongside him: We cant observe climate directly, he explains. All we see is the weather. The average weather over the course of years reveals a pattern. I represent that long-term trend, which is climate. Keep your eye on the man, not the dog.
Here it is: the truly ultimate guide to shutting down climate trolls, brought to us by the new champion of all things science.
In the upcoming episode of Cosmos, host Neil deGrasse Tyson is taking on climate deniers directly and National Geographic just released the first clip. If these two minutes are any indication of what the rest of the episode (airing Sunday) is going to be like, we can expect a simple, elegant takedown of their most tired and misinformed arguments.
OK, so if we scientists are so good at making these dire, long-term predictions about the climate, how come were so lousy about predicting the weather? Tyson begins by asking, in imitation of those skeptical of climate change. And if the planet is really heating up, he adds, why did some places experience a really cold winter this year?
Tyson then goes on to answer his own question, using the unique image of a man walking on the beach while his leashed dog wanders alongside him: We cant observe climate directly, he explains. All we see is the weather. The average weather over the course of years reveals a pattern. I represent that long-term trend, which is climate. Keep your eye on the man, not the dog.
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Creationists Try to Outsmart Neil deGrasse Tyson on the Great Flood and Climate Change [View all]
xchrom
May 2014
OP
I've always wanted to smack them in the forehead and say, "That was part of his plan, too!"
dawg
May 2014
#28
If you want to believe that you have no free will, then more power to you I guess.
dawg
May 2014
#36
The article you link to does not claim that anyone has proven free will to be an illusion.
Vattel
May 2014
#81
It's also true that through our own determination we can change those chemical reactions...
DesertDiamond
May 2014
#51
And when they get drunk, crash the car, beat their spouse, leave their kids go hungry
Ikonoklast
May 2014
#39
Watch: The Neil deGrasse Tyson climate denier takedown we’ve been waiting for is finally here
xchrom
May 2014
#2
I guess maybe you could put your dad to the test by asking him if he's "with god."
Mr. Evil
May 2014
#61
LIKE A 1000 TO A MILLION TIMES GREATER # OF SPECIES? IN A FEW THOUSAND YRS? REALLY?
drynberg
May 2014
#11
Maybe they only took babies! Not arguing just pointing out that this is what the literalists get for
jwirr
May 2014
#21
Well, the proliferation of flood stories has a simple explanation to me...
Wounded Bear
May 2014
#47
Ken Ham "These legends are ubiquitous because all people in the world are descendants of Noah"
yellowcanine
May 2014
#30
I learned about the Epic of Gilgamesh 30 years ago. Neil was just a kid then.
kelliekat44
May 2014
#40
ah, but anthropologists have found numerous ways of "stabilizing" oral tradition
MisterP
May 2014
#56
On the bright side, if Ken Ham is trolling NDGT, he has less time to troll DU.
Warren DeMontague
May 2014
#62
Creationists are living proof that some of the monkeys came out of the trees....
lastlib
Jun 2014
#92