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MADem

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385. I don't see "fault" in opinions. They're just points of view.

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:44 PM

Jun 2014

Speaking of dumbass gripings, calling someone's POV "silly" is a perfect example of a pretty lame approach to discussion. What a way to marginalize a person, and their point of view:

I don't like your perspective, ergo your questions are "silly."

Glenn Greenwald's opinions are not "fact." They aren't "correct" either--GG does not have standing to say what's a constitutional violation, or what isn't--unless he's morphed into five Supreme Court justices before our eyes.

But see what you just did? You laid out a scenario where you're right, and everyone else is wrong--because you say so, based on a flawed assertion. You've made yourself judge, jury and executioner, and then you get mad at the "shrill" (hmmmmmmm) people who disagree with your "correct" (so sez you) opinion.

There's no "arguing" against anything like that. You've already made up your mind. And you, with a chip on your shoulder, take issue with others who -- looking at what you're dishing -- have a chip on theirs.

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Let's Try It This Way...Under What Instances, Is It Okay To Praise The President On DU ??? [View all] sheshe2 Jun 2014 OP

this just doesn't read well and it comes off as whining. cali Jun 2014 #1

Irony alert KittyWampus Jun 2014 #21

really? how so? cali Jun 2014 #56

... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #78

I kinda definitely think the poster was referring a moi. My name is not Willy. cali Jun 2014 #167

Thought the same thing as I skimmed it DrDan Jun 2014 #233

Good post. Andy823 Jun 2014 #2

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #3

I thank you Andy! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #4

Um, when you're in the BOG. theaocp Jun 2014 #5

That's you answer for a Democratic board. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #16

If you want to call someone racist, have the courage to make the accusation directly. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #48

Oh please Hekate Jun 2014 #81

I only visited dis twice... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #101

That's it, she.. the Beautiful BOG that drive a few people insane.. Cha Jun 2014 #347

What a beautiful link! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #348

Yeah, The Barack Obama Group.. Cha Jun 2014 #349

There is indeed! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #351

Nice, I love that gif! The Week Ahead(More to Come..) Cha Jun 2014 #354

Oh no! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #355

Serious? They do that? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #102

I read it more than once, and it was let to stand Hekate Jun 2014 #127

"It is what is IS"- What does that even mean? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #104

the Ta-nehisi Coates article really exposed a lot, i'm sure the biggest racist zimmerman supporters JI7 Jun 2014 #124

What is Dis? theaocp Jun 2014 #232

It's "The Discussionist", the new site that DU admin have set up muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #243

It's the go-to comeback Doctor_J Jun 2014 #332

Did I miss something? theaocp Jun 2014 #231

We need to enter the BOG Dragonfli Jun 2014 #352

This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress Jun 2014 #6

Easy Peasy... When One Agrees... One Promotes... When One Disagrees... One Denotes... WillyT Jun 2014 #7

it's short and it rhymes! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #117

Waste Of Time billhicks76 Jun 2014 #326

it should always be ok , it's a Democratic Board JI7 Jun 2014 #8

problem (with your expectation) is bigtree Jun 2014 #9

I will agree Andy823 Jun 2014 #15

I'd say there's definitely some over-zealousness on all sides bigtree Jun 2014 #24

Its Democratic Underground....its ABOUT the Democratic Party....AND the Democratic Party VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #107

heh . . . it's about what we make it about bigtree Jun 2014 #140

Here....we are SUPPOSED to be zealous! But to come here....its like stepping through the looking VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #144

I'm sorry that's been your experience bigtree Jun 2014 #149

I lurked here for years...came to be informed....and then suddenly it started reading like FR VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #152

I know it's hard to wade through the BS bigtree Jun 2014 #154

That 'bogscum' comment was (is?) used on The Discussionist, not DU muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #193

And was it regulars to DU that used the term? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #250

You don't have to be from DU to know of the Barack Obama Group muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #261

Apparently you just contradicted yourself. As the 2 that used the term are or were former VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #264

I couldn't see that you had a point - you didn't know who was using it muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #266

Interesting perspective. So it's about the Democratic Party, not Democratic policies? Scuba Jun 2014 #201

+1 a whole fucking bunch. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #300

Well said, Scuba MissDeeds Jun 2014 #304

well said NRaleighLiberal Jun 2014 #308

Thanks for the affirmation Fairgo Jun 2014 #342

Excellent post, Scuba! nt City Lights Jun 2014 #365

From the DU "About Us" page: "...we have no affiliation with the Democratic Party." scarletwoman Jun 2014 #213

It's about "politically liberal" people who VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, though. MADem Jun 2014 #278

But Obama is not a candidate. grasswire Jun 2014 #290

I can't believe you said this: MADem Jun 2014 #292

go read the thread... grasswire Jun 2014 #294

What Joan of Arc reference? MADem Jun 2014 #373

Makes perfect sense to me. Defending right-wing policies and appointments is harmful .... Scuba Jun 2014 #360

No, that's crap. MADem Jun 2014 #374

So you think right-wing policies can only come from Republicans? Scuba Jun 2014 #375

"So you think" the POTUS is a right winger? MADem Jun 2014 #377

Wow, I'm amazed that a longtime DU member would defend that stuff. Scuba Jun 2014 #378

That line of attack is getting stale, too. MADem Jun 2014 #379

Excellent subthread, MADem. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #387

Well, I gotta say.... MADem Jun 2014 #388

A refreshingly even-handed comment Armstead Jun 2014 #24

Bigtree, I have no problem with people speaking out their concerns. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #47

I know some folks just like to aggravate bigtree Jun 2014 #55

I give Obama good grades on drug policy, although that will elicit some howls. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #10

You were referring to this babylonsister Jun 2014 #11

Yes it was what I was referring to, bsis. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #18

Never would I have expected Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #34

I believe i read last night that the reason some can't give him any credit is because....... bravenak Jun 2014 #12

I agree with the part about older people dominating DU. This is anecdotal but I totodeinhere Jun 2014 #26

"where is a forum for young people?" Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #37

We do need a forum for the under 35's. bravenak Jun 2014 #42

Well would you allow me to post there once in awhile if we get one? sheshe2 Jun 2014 #51

Of course anyone should be allowed to post regardless of age but the totodeinhere Jun 2014 #64

Well thanks, totodeinhere sheshe2 Jun 2014 #73

And the alternative is that you never get there. madfloridian Jun 2014 #82

Hopefully our spirit and outlook will remain young and optimistic. totodeinhere Jun 2014 #247

It's what I was referring to also. madfloridian Jun 2014 #248

I never exclude anyone. And you in particular can go anywhere with me. bravenak Jun 2014 #70

Well I know you would not exclude me... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #115

I saw that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #239

I'd like to see a group for college students as well davidpdx Jun 2014 #206

Why you young whippersnapper Hekate Jun 2014 #76

"most posters are older and many are really old." madfloridian Jun 2014 #108

age is just a number icarusxat Jun 2014 #121

I understand what you are saying, but in our society we are often categorized by our age totodeinhere Jun 2014 #249

True and older people are more critical of everything treestar Jun 2014 #215

Oh my Godz Hissyspit Jun 2014 #361

Thank you! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #363

It was damaged already treestar Jun 2014 #372

I am pissed off at the Democratic Partyv because it has become too cozy with... Armstead Jun 2014 #32

After you old guys are gone the rest of us will make up the new majority. bravenak Jun 2014 #41

Ha! Armstead Jun 2014 #52

Immature high horse. You sound so old. bravenak Jun 2014 #60

I believe your insults toward older people here are something quite new. madfloridian Jun 2014 #113

They are not insults. bravenak Jun 2014 #125

You think the issues are mostly with the elderly? madfloridian Jun 2014 #131

Mostly men and mostly older. bravenak Jun 2014 #132

The jury agrees with you. Which carries bad connotations even for us white women. madfloridian Jun 2014 #135

I am sorry for that truly. bravenak Jun 2014 #139

Didn't you just note to another poster that there are "alternatives" to getting old? Number23 Jun 2014 #179

Worth looking at actual voting figures before using your broad brush muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #194

I was really speaking of the proportion of demographic to how they voted. bravenak Jun 2014 #195

This is the first time you've mentioned percentages or proportions muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #202

If you add women to minorities and younger voters you get a majority of dems. bravenak Jun 2014 #203

This JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #358

I am getting old...but I wouldn't have said that to all young people Armstead Jun 2014 #238

You are missing the point I'm afraid Dragonfli Jun 2014 #321

Excellent post! Well said! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #346

Great post, Dragonfli. historylovr Jun 2014 #364

Great post! Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it, and those ignorant of present reality Zorra Jun 2014 #366

.... 840high Jun 2014 #85

" After you old guys are gone the rest of us will make up the new majority." madfloridian Jun 2014 #80

You should read the whole thing. bravenak Jun 2014 #94

You are saying we all sound alike? Like Republicans? Well You won the jury poll.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #95

I can see that this upsets you. bravenak Jun 2014 #105

Oh, yes it does upset me. I never use the n word, never have. madfloridian Jun 2014 #114

It's been an issue since before i joined. bravenak Jun 2014 #134

Please continue. madfloridian Jun 2014 #137

Okay. bravenak Jun 2014 #141

sad state of things here. PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #245

I think every older DUer should read what you just posted. Every word of it. madfloridian Jun 2014 #98

I agree. bravenak Jun 2014 #116

Who here trashes the black community? Name the older people here at DU who do that? madfloridian Jun 2014 #119

I just told you. bravenak Jun 2014 #130

What is AA? madfloridian Jun 2014 #133

African American. bravenak Jun 2014 #136

Regarding this exchange, I want to draw your attention to something.... msanthrope Jun 2014 #197

Thank you. bravenak Jun 2014 #199

Want clearer? msanthrope Jun 2014 #200

That was pretty bad. bravenak Jun 2014 #219

Probably true davidpdx Jun 2014 #207

Feel free to visit us when we have a thread going. bravenak Jun 2014 #209

There are many here that trash the black community here madfloridian sheshe2 Jun 2014 #145

The only groups I use are Computer Help, Education, and What's for Dinner. madfloridian Jun 2014 #146

I never thought it was racism that you did not know about the group. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #153

They don't have to put down the elderly to "take up the mantle". madfloridian Jun 2014 #157

I don't know where you are getting all that. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #170

I think you are not reading some of the posts carefully. madfloridian Jun 2014 #189

I agree with you Andy823 Jun 2014 #316

Like you, I'm over 60. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #253

what dominates politics in the US is talk radio certainot Jun 2014 #150

We know what they are doing and the people who listen to that talk radio are.... bravenak Jun 2014 #160

we don't have time to wait for it to die out certainot Jun 2014 #166

LOL!! bravenak Jun 2014 #171

i hope you're right, but it needs to happen really soon. they're getting ready to divide up certainot Jun 2014 #285

PS, the OJ trial was maddening. it was a great eg of how effective rw radio was for certainot Jun 2014 #288

I can tell you the problem isn't exclusive to the US davidpdx Jun 2014 #208

I figured the problem was widespread. bravenak Jun 2014 #212

In terms of both voting and issue positions, older white men are a strongly GOP constituency overall YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #280

The younger generation in this thread just denigrated the "old people" here at DU. madfloridian Jun 2014 #284

I'm with you, madfloridian. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #301

Agreed MissDeeds Jun 2014 #305

Well well, one juror agreed that "Yes, old white men in the way of progress. Exactly that." madfloridian Jun 2014 #84

Did you really alert my post? :( bravenak Jun 2014 #96

I think you get a copy. madfloridian Jun 2014 #99

Not if the alert fails i don't. bravenak Jun 2014 #109

Well, you seem to be quite prejudiced against old people. The jury agrees with you. madfloridian Jun 2014 #111

Really, that is your take away that she is prejudiced against OLD people? randys1 Jun 2014 #277

So now the battle is against "privileged white people"? Not just old people at DU? madfloridian Jun 2014 #281

Jury results pintobean Jun 2014 #362

For your inquiring mind: chervilant Jun 2014 #338

Well, good luck with that. Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #147

In 45 years from now...... bravenak Jun 2014 #151

Well, as I said, good luck with that. Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #176

I'm a discontent idealist. bravenak Jun 2014 #180

I love your optimism and fierceness lovemydog Jun 2014 #260

Without whining and moaning, the wealthy and powerful and the politicians who are their puppets.... Armstead Jun 2014 #268

The wealthy and powerful and politicians who are their puppets lovemydog Jun 2014 #273

Many people I know..... Armstead Jun 2014 #296

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. lovemydog Jun 2014 #337

and furthermore, your ideal doesn't match reality Armstead Jun 2014 #270

"Liberal on "social issues" if one is apathetic/supportive of the status quo of concentrated... scarletwoman Jun 2014 #53

Perfectly well said. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #302

You are correct of course, unfortunately, many think that only social issues should be liberal Dragonfli Jun 2014 #325

The people who control the wealth and power are happy to throw us the occasional bone totodeinhere Jun 2014 #69

Please don't take this wrong; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #246

I can't speak for everyone but... Armstead Jun 2014 #267

"I don't know many people who have basically progressive leanings who support the status quo" YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #282

yes, and I point to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #287

Oh you did indeed read about it last night... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #36

Many disrupters. bravenak Jun 2014 #44

I'm old and white (though not male) and I totally agree with you frazzled Jun 2014 #148

This was such a good post. bravenak Jun 2014 #155

You make a very important point about the focus only on class disparity frazzled Jun 2014 #241

Fabulous post. In the AA forum we bust guts laughing at the "warriors" for legalizing marijuana Number23 Jun 2014 #184

I agree lovemydog Jun 2014 #263

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #252

Great post! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #256

Excellent post YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #283

Excellent post. redqueen Jun 2014 #318

Got it. freshwest Jun 2014 #368

Wait.. what? Someone actually POSTED for everyone to see that he is critical of the Pres just to Number23 Jun 2014 #177

Oh, did you miss that one? bravenak Jun 2014 #181

Good Lord... Number23 Jun 2014 #185

He has a way with words. bravenak Jun 2014 #186

Well, folks are apparently revealing themselves all over the place lately Number23 Jun 2014 #187

You said it!! bravenak Jun 2014 #190

No, nothing you've said is controversial. NOTHING you've said is new Number23 Jun 2014 #329

Blame the victim. You are a piece of work. PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #220

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #225

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #226

BS PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #227

Bullshit. Our society caters to the older white male. bravenak Jun 2014 #228

That's funny PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #229

So this is the not all men thing? bravenak Jun 2014 #234

I do not PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #236

It's a reference to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #259

Well that true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #257

Read and understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #255

I certainly do not agree with his/her statement PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #291

Perhaps it's noteworthy to point out ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #311

please explain PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #313

re - read her post and your response. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #315

Still don't see it PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #317

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #319

That is some ugly fucking shit you just wrote. Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #320

Oh, bullshit. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #323

DU is not representative of the Democratic Party Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #328

And you are not representative of the Democratic Party. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #356

Classic example of what bravenak is talking about: Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #357

I never said it wasn't a bubble. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #359

Please link to a post at a republican board that complains the president is too conservative Doctor_J Jun 2014 #333

I've got your back... Earth_First Jun 2014 #13

LOL~ Thank you Earth_First! nt sheshe2 Jun 2014 #172

I don't understand your question. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #14

I agree that's the way it babylonsister Jun 2014 #43

Right after at least 7 OPs slamming him, but before the next 12 OPs slamming him LadyHawkAZ Jun 2014 #17

Good start, but we can do better. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #19

+1 bigtree Jun 2014 #27

He is an elected official. Not your prom date. And not all things are the GOPs fault. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #20

"prom date". Damn, that's insulting. And in the Reality Based Community- KittyWampus Jun 2014 #23

Criticize all you wish. That is not the issue. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #61

When you preface the apology for a political leader with the idea that he is just a man, imperfect Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #110

"prom date": insulting...and accurate. Shemp Howard Jun 2014 #68

You are indeed a dreamer! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #163

I've been pondering your accusation of sexism... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #343

Yep, you are a dreamer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #262

One thing that will be better when HRC is president Doctor_J Jun 2014 #334

There is not a single doubt in my mind that the creepy adoration will continue. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #344

No. totodeinhere Jun 2014 #22

when Obama does something that I agree with, praise. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #28

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #49

It's on him to do more things that deserve praise, Maedhros Jun 2014 #50

Not a comparison but I even praised George W. Bush once think Jun 2014 #29

I did once too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #79

... Gman Jun 2014 #30

When Obama does something praise worthy, I'll let ya know quinnox Jun 2014 #31

Way back madamesilverspurs Jun 2014 #33

Absolutely. nt okaawhatever Jun 2014 #57

When he deserves it. AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #35

If his supporters didn't smear his critics so much it would be easier to priase him. Vattel Jun 2014 #38

+1000 navarth Jun 2014 #122

+1 nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #126

yes grasswire Jun 2014 #159

And that is the point that this group completely misses. Puglover Jun 2014 #237

You are free to praise him whenever you want. City Lights Jun 2014 #39

+100 840high Jun 2014 #58

the poor thangs Skittles Jun 2014 #128

I know...some here jump all over when I mention their idols talk more like Libertarians. Tikki Jun 2014 #188

guess what? even Libertarians are right sometimes Skittles Jun 2014 #191

You just caused a huge amount of cognitive dissonance among the black or white mindsets quinnox Jun 2014 #272

That's pretty much the entire gist of it right there. Doctor_J Jun 2014 #336

I'll praise Obama but I don't see his performane very rosily on the big things Armstead Jun 2014 #40

Obama never ran on a public option. Obama never once in the entire time he was campaigning for okaawhatever Jun 2014 #62

He did not run on what he ultimately supported Armstead Jun 2014 #244

Either you are lying, or this guy in the video is lying, because he said Obama did! Dragonfli Jun 2014 #330

And apparently Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #45

+100 nt okaawhatever Jun 2014 #65

+2000 bravenak Jun 2014 #77

Well said, Jamaal! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #275

Praise him all you want. But people who are less impressed get to say how they feel too. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #46

R#18 & K for, haha and thanks!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2014 #54

Do what is necessary Android3.14 Jun 2014 #59

K&R baldguy Jun 2014 #63

I agree! NancyDL Jun 2014 #66

Big time K & R SheShe. nt okaawhatever Jun 2014 #67

K & R Very good post sheshe2 Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #71

Good post, she, good post. Hope you've got your baking soda handy for the acid replies. Hekate Jun 2014 #72

Baking soda. Check! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #74

Ha! Now some of you guys are going after the old folks here? We are in the way? madfloridian Jun 2014 #75

No, its how they roll Iliyah Jun 2014 #90

Well, this thread was hijacked from Sheshe by those being insulting to seniors. madfloridian Jun 2014 #93

Who's stopping you from praising? 840high Jun 2014 #83

What do you call prejudice against old people as shown in this forum... madfloridian Jun 2014 #86

ageism m-lekktor Jun 2014 #87

sure I can help you: Obama Hates Old People! Whisp Jun 2014 #91

Obama played the age card early on when speaking of SS ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #162

When he stands up and does what is right just as in the instances your post describes. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #88

K&R and thankyou sheshe. Whisp Jun 2014 #89

When they do something right because it is the right thing to do on point Jun 2014 #92

Like bringing home Bowe B Iliyah Jun 2014 #103

First of all, I didn't expect much from him, so I am not disappointed. Hoppy Jun 2014 #97

When he sends Dubya and Cheney to the Hague. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #100

D does not equal Obama underground. that's what the BOG is for nt msongs Jun 2014 #106

K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #112

bit of a double standard there shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #118

If pragmatism is ones thing then President Obama is hands down the best POTUS ever. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #120

Posting while elderly. Should we continue? madfloridian Jun 2014 #123

I do believe you are serious crim son Jun 2014 #129

I was one of those smallcat88 Jun 2014 #138

When he does something that I think is good for the country. Rex Jun 2014 #142

how can anyone evaluate obama or any rep if they have no clue? certainot Jun 2014 #143

The color of one's skin Never Ever entered my mind ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #158

bullshit. the entire left spectrum had no fucking clue and as long as certainot Jun 2014 #164

Sorry but that is just BS, many of us were not buying into to BS from the right ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #169

there's an example right in front of us. friday night PBS political pundits repeating certainot Jun 2014 #269

You nailed it. The American subconscious tells all that hating Obama is natural. freshwest Jun 2014 #174

actually re reptilian, i think there's a behavioral reason for much of the irrationality certainot Jun 2014 #265

I'm fairly new here gwheezie Jun 2014 #156

When he does something good, of course MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #161

Not a good time to piss off the "old" folks. madfloridian Jun 2014 #165

Unfortunately Obama began the old vs younger crowd war a long time ago ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #182

For what it's worth, Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #183

k&r... spanone Jun 2014 #168

When he leads instead of follows. He is the weakest president since Gerald Ford. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #173

+1000. Obama has been way too accomodating to right wing ideas and his reaching out quinnox Jun 2014 #175

And we are left with a pittance instead of a pound. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #178

I praise (or criticize) policies, not people n/t eridani Jun 2014 #192

When he does something praiseworthy. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #196

I lulz'd. KG Jun 2014 #198

DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2014 #204

When he does something good/right/consistent with traditional democratic values and issues. vi5 Jun 2014 #205

It is never OK, we have to hold his feet to the fire at all times treestar Jun 2014 #210

Shit, by this time his feet should be black! randome Jun 2014 #217

You can say what you like in praise of the President here. bemildred Jun 2014 #211

He's the President 99% of us voted for. He deserves the benefit of a doubt. randome Jun 2014 #214

When he creates utopia for everybody. tabasco Jun 2014 #216

Plus a million to that. And it is happening here. freshwest Jun 2014 #369

A very revealing thread. madfloridian Jun 2014 #218

Some of it derives simply from the usual 'anonymous Internet' aspect. randome Jun 2014 #223

She never implyed that you were racist, that is not true at all. bravenak Jun 2014 #224

You have NEVER seen me post stuff like that. madfloridian Jun 2014 #230

Not all men! bravenak Jun 2014 #235

I'll let Teddy Roosevelt answer your question Martin Eden Jun 2014 #221

Thank you. This should be posted daily. 840high Jun 2014 #279

Great Quote Thanks! raindaddy Jun 2014 #297

It is impossible to speak about the President without praising him AngryAmish Jun 2014 #222

Okay. woo me with science Jun 2014 #298

Very true! Also all liberals agree! Dragonfli Jun 2014 #335

Puts on my Jack Benny pose whistler162 Jun 2014 #240

I have a lot of Jack Benny old time radio shows on my iPod. randome Jun 2014 #242

Under any circumstances you choose. MineralMan Jun 2014 #251

That's an easy one. Whenever he acts like a member of the Democratic Party instead of a member of Zorra Jun 2014 #254

Whenever you want to, LWolf Jun 2014 #258

Never. He's not a pet dog looking for a treat. He's a politician. rug Jun 2014 #271

The Shell Game colsohlibgal Jun 2014 #274

Under any instance you want. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #276

I dont mind at all if praise is given to the president for the things he has accomplished, and rhett o rick Jun 2014 #286

Unfortunately, this is not as much of a Democratic board as thought YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #289

You're not listening then Armstead Jun 2014 #295

"Never once, never once do you praise his successes." A bullshit exaggeration. corkhead Jun 2014 #293

You should change your name from corkhead to poophead with an attitude like that. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #303

When the President says, Enthusiast Jun 2014 #299

Apparently, it's never "okay" here at the New Green Libertarian Underground. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #306

President Obama has Best 4 Months JOB CREATION since BILL CLINTON Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #307

On the rare occasion that he does something a Democrat would be proud of...... bowens43 Jun 2014 #309

Bologna quakerboy Jun 2014 #310

When deserved just as always Fearless Jun 2014 #312

Who would have thought... albino65 Jun 2014 #314

I gotta agree with you on this. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #322

Huh? Iggo Jun 2014 #324

Apparently, those who want to attack him... liberalmuse Jun 2014 #327

Excellent post. Andy823 Jun 2014 #331

Well said Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #353

Great idea but will never happen Jake2413 Jun 2014 #339

hail to the chief barbtries Jun 2014 #340

I don't know how to loooooovvvvve himmmmm... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #341

Not through works, but by grace alone shall we be saved Dragonfli Jun 2014 #350

Evidently so. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #367

The entire site is now vanity threads, call-outs, misplaced BOG posts, and feminists posts Doctor_J Jun 2014 #370

True. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #371

"anyone not supporting Puckett is a GOP infiltrator and Eastasian spy who hates Elizabeth Warren!" MisterP Jun 2014 #389

This question is really silly. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #345

I've seen posters singled out and mocked because their posts were "too favorable" to Obama. MADem Jun 2014 #376

You're illustrating the point I made. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #380

No, you're deliberately misconstruing what I am saying to try to prove your "point." MADem Jun 2014 #381

Are you implying that there is never any rational basis for progressive criticism of Obama? Jim Lane Jun 2014 #382

I'm not "implying" anything. I am coming straight out and saying what I just said. MADem Jun 2014 #383

Do you see ANY fault at all from pro-Obama posters? Jim Lane Jun 2014 #384

I don't see "fault" in opinions. They're just points of view. MADem Jun 2014 #385

OK, we're no longer communicating usefully. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #390

Says the guy who calls arguments he doesn't like 'silly.' MADem Jun 2014 #391

It's best to just complain about everything all the time IronLionZion Jun 2014 #386

K&R. It's sad that your OP is necessary... but it is. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #392

Thanks Steven! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #393