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malaise

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Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:22 AM Jun 2014

Natalie Maines and the Dixie Chicks were correct [View all]

http://www.hitfix.com/news/the-dixie-chicks-controversy-10-years-later-natalie-maines-rehashes-it
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Natalie Maines @1NatalieMaines
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Good thing I'm not a told ya so kind of person or I might point out that 10 years ago today I said GWB was full of bull and I was right.

As you may recall, 10 years ago on March 10, the Dixie Chicks were on tour in London. Under President George W. Bush’s command, the U.S. was preparing to invade Iraq under the alleged belief that Saddam Hussein was hiding “weapons of mass destruction.” Like many people in the U.S. and the rest of the world who opposed the war from the start, more than 1 million Brits had marched again the impending invasion. Maines looked out over the audience at Shepherd’s Bush Empire Theater and said, “Just so you know, we’re on the good side with y’all. We do not want this war, this violence, and we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas.”

That’s it. Since then, the level of discourse between politicians has sunk so low that it’s hard to believe it even registered a blip. It was painful to watch as the press piled on and she had to make an apology that felt forced and ultimately did no good anyway. Her fellow Dixie Chicks, Emily Robison and Martie Maguire, publicly stood by her as they watched their career go down; Innocent bystanders standing too close to the flame

I remember exactly where I was when I learned of her remarks. I was in Texas at South By Southwest in Austin. I remember reading about it online that night and having that feeling of “This is either going to blow over” or “This is going to be a disaster.” It was that kind of hold-your-breath feeling, like when you watch a baby fall and you wait to see her reaction to see how spooked she is before you react. Sometimes the baby gets back up and laughs, and sometimes the exact same fall can provoke screams and an avalanche of tears.

Maines’ comments were a country career killer. The reaction was swift, brutal and ongoing. It included stations boycotting the group and fans burning their CDs. Regardless of whether one agreed with her views, the unofficial blacklisting, which continues to this day, was a ridiculously knee-jerk overreaction in a format that wraps itself in jingoistic patriotism often defined in one very narrow, conservative way with little tolerance for opposing views. And I say that as a great fan of country music. But its long-held embrace of this vision of America that no longer exists, if it ever did other than in the movies or on “The Andy Griffith Show,” is antiquated and damaging.

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Never forget!

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But that vision of America still lives today! I overheard this being played on my nephew's Pandora corkhead Jun 2014 #1
Wow, a CM song that doesn't mention women, trucks or beer... T Roosevelt Jun 2014 #3
Well Reagan liked Born in the USA. zeemike Jun 2014 #21
+1 Enthusiast Jun 2014 #48
Chris Christie is Springsteen's biggest fan (no pun intended). I was tblue37 Jun 2014 #66
If you play a country music record backwards-- eridani Jun 2014 #75
If you play country music backwards, it's exactly the same as forwards. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #84
"A welcome home parade," yeah. malthaussen Jun 2014 #10
Yeah. Waiting for the country song on that one... mountain grammy Jun 2014 #14
k&r.... spanone Jun 2014 #2
I remember them sweeping the Grammies a few years later. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #4
Reaction of country fans made them realize they were too good for just country. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2014 #15
. struggle4progress Jun 2014 #5
I up your Not Ready To Make Nice with this one OverseaVisitor Jun 2014 #6
I loved them forever for this song Heather MC Jun 2014 #27
That song still gives me goosebumps War Horse Jun 2014 #40
+ struggle4progress Jun 2014 #43
Also do not forget they will not alone OverseaVisitor Jun 2014 #76
One of the best concerts I've ever been to. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #67
Rec! progressoid Jun 2014 #7
She apologized to President Bush on March 14 a few weeks later. I was rather surprised yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #8
Bush and Cheney are war criminals, but she had to apologize or she would have been randys1 Jun 2014 #30
Yeah, well. If Bush had actually won the fucking election. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #49
She pretty much backed off the apology later. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #57
Maines was wrong about one thing. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #69
kick samsingh Jun 2014 #9
From the documentary: "Shut Up And Sing" DinahMoeHum Jun 2014 #11
I don't really care for country music all that much... canuckledragger Jun 2014 #12
My husband and I didn't ever listen to country music... kag Jun 2014 #13
More background info kwijybo Jun 2014 #16
Interesting malaise Jun 2014 #17
My husband loves country music and applauded the Dixie Chicks for their courage. mountain grammy Jun 2014 #18
Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hahhahaha malaise Jun 2014 #32
they got onethatcares Jun 2014 #36
I have a cousin who has lived most of her life in Jamaica, more than 40 years! mountain grammy Jun 2014 #70
Portland is my favorite rural parish malaise Jun 2014 #79
Count yourself lucky. I dated a womam back when "Drop-kick me Jesus genwah Jun 2014 #64
I remember that one too! ugh. mountain grammy Jun 2014 #68
Molly Ivins always liked-- eridani Jun 2014 #74
I miss Molly big time malaise Jun 2014 #85
Maybe this pic will help. If you hear that song, think of this and laugh: Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #90
"a country career killer" hfojvt Jun 2014 #19
Ya know what? Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #25
+1,000 malaise Jun 2014 #31
and they still are performers hfojvt Jun 2014 #35
maybe onethatcares Jun 2014 #37
I kind of already know how to sing hfojvt Jun 2014 #72
Uh, Mindy McCready died several years ago and Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #38
yes, I do think that tons of money make lots of things okay hfojvt Jun 2014 #71
I imagine many limited imaginations believe money to be the only measure for success and failure LanternWaste Jun 2014 #91
Several years ago? Buddha2B Jun 2014 #83
My bad. Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #89
Yes I agree Buddha2B Jun 2014 #92
THis post shows that even on left we can hero worship and lose perspective joeglow3 Jun 2014 #87
Seriously? Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #88
Yes, you should cry for unfairness wherever it exists Live and Learn Jun 2014 #78
an "unfair punishment" hfojvt Jun 2014 #93
The boycott was pushed by Clear Channel Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #20
Neil Young would be a good member of that group n/t albino65 Jun 2014 #55
Clear Channel pushed for war. Octafish Jun 2014 #86
Natalie Maines is one of my heroes! I do recall that there was a lot of support for her too DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #22
Both their courage and music were great moral boosters. The Dixie Chicks and the kairos12 Jun 2014 #23
Another perspective, from SavingCountryMusic-dot-com DinahMoeHum Jun 2014 #24
As I pointed out, Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #26
Nice read malaise Jun 2014 #33
There is no stereo-type of (most) country fans. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #39
Country music took much of its' cue from the corporate media propaganda that Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #42
Since the genre is nationalist and will rally with little Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #44
That depends on whether the U.S. is engaged in a just war and/or if the Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #51
good critique, thanks. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #62
they should have been more patriotic, like Ted Nugent rurallib Jun 2014 #28
No, you don't. But, if I would have had a ted nugent cd.. Cha Jun 2014 #61
After George Bush moved to Houston in order to establish residency to run for governor Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #29
You were right malaise Jun 2014 #34
The events that followed the stolen election were the reasons the election was stolen. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #47
I've never gotten over that coup malaise Jun 2014 #50
If they are no longer in charge, Enthusiast Jun 2014 #53
They are everywhere like a virus malaise Jun 2014 #54
I haven't forgotten...and am not ready to make nice. nt truebluegreen Jun 2014 #41
I bought a bunch of their CDs when that happened. pamela Jun 2014 #45
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jun 2014 #52
The repugs, cons and religionaires are desperately trying to rewrite history... Tikki Jun 2014 #56
Here's three Frank Zappa Country western songs I'm aware of 90-percent Jun 2014 #58
The reaction by the MEDIA was swift, brutal and ongoing.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #59
You just nailed what my main problem with country music has been... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #60
Christ, I'd love to forget 2003 IkeRepublican Jun 2014 #63
I live amongst the "proud to be stupid" crowd mdbl Jun 2014 #77
Actual, genuine US patriots. They didn't just talk the talk, they kept genwah Jun 2014 #65
So were all the rest of us around the world that marched on the 15th 7wo7rees Jun 2014 #73
True, that! chervilant Jun 2014 #80
Indeed malaise Jun 2014 #81
, blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #82
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