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Cause then you'll be funding someone worse? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #1
The problem is this: election math is pure binary. riqster Jun 2014 #2
It will stay that way as long as you can convince enough people Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #8
Convince, schmonvince. It's an observable, verifiable fact. riqster Jun 2014 #16
Came pretty damn close with Perot. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #19
Spoiler, perhaps. But it didn't alter the math. riqster Jun 2014 #24
Yup, math is math. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #26
Might, maybe, etc. etc. hasn't happened. riqster Jun 2014 #28
Sounds like some Greenwald crap, but we don't advocate for "3rd parties" at "Democratic" Underground Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #63
Yes, I did rather suspect I was Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #70
Nope, not my motivation. riqster Jun 2014 #79
Don't let them change your mind. The only way to choose the best candidate is to A Simple Game Jun 2014 #97
Perhaps you should get into a knock down drag out with the guys who made the rules? They're..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #162
Spot on, Tarheel_Dem, spot on. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #120
True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #85
I'd be fine with Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #89
This ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #98
And the perpetual whiners have NOTHING! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #46
Well, since the whine comes from sour grapes, it's usually bitter anyway. riqster Jun 2014 #50
I have to agree....they would only bring Velveeta Cheese like product anyways.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #52
Observable, repeatable, independently verifiable. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #18
I get what you are saying; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #82
Ah, it'd possibly be the same. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #87
How will voting third party or staying home ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #93
First, I never 'stay home'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #96
Forgive me ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #107
I think one needs to differentiate between D=R and DLC=R. Chan790 Jun 2014 #172
That one problem with metaphors ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #176
lose what has been gained noiretextatique Jun 2014 #99
And not voting will be a stop-loss measure? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #108
Not voting dem = 0; voting dem = 1; voting rep = -1. Vattel Jun 2014 #130
That ain't how binary works. There is no third option. riqster Jun 2014 #134
Fail. Vattel Jun 2014 #149
Proof? riqster Jun 2014 #150
lol nt BootinUp Jun 2014 #151
I edited the post to provide proof Vattel Jun 2014 #152
However, you make my point regardless: not voting D helps the R. riqster Jun 2014 #153
If that is your only point then i agree. Vattel Jun 2014 #154
Let's break it down, shall we? ljm2002 Jun 2014 #165
I think it is our responsibility to show up. riqster Jun 2014 #167
Agreed. ljm2002 Jun 2014 #171
No argument there. But I am done waiting for the party to do it. riqster Jun 2014 #174
Kind of. ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #159
Quite possibly. But increasing D votes is always useful. riqster Jun 2014 #160
You make a good point. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #161
Dude! Nobody has even declared candidacy. MineralMan Jun 2014 #4
I want different candidates. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #6
OK. Just as soon as the 2014 election is over, I encourage MineralMan Jun 2014 #10
My influence is teeny tiny. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #17
OK. If he's on the primary ballot in Minnesota, he'll probably MineralMan Jun 2014 #20
as my grandmother used to say "wish in one hand..." VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #47
Oh, I'm fine with many of the Democrats. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #69
that you "think" being the operative word... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #83
It IS weird. Especially since no one has declared. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #15
That's how I've always done it. I vote more liberal in the primaries,but "D" in the general election Hekate Jun 2014 #62
I love you mineral man warrior1 Jun 2014 #78
Let me check with my wife on that... MineralMan Jun 2014 #80
more of that stupid 'homespun' wisdom. nt xchrom Jun 2014 #3
Thanks for kicking the thread! MineralMan Jun 2014 #11
No chance in hell would I give money to RW a-holes! nt arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #5
Maybe you can't see the sarcasm smiley on your device. MineralMan Jun 2014 #7
Damn, you're right...ok, time to open my g.damn eyes, sorry :( nt arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #12
ROFL. BootinUp Jun 2014 #9
dumb stuff is.... dumb stuff. cali Jun 2014 #13
It is, indeed, cali. MineralMan Jun 2014 #14
Why is it dumb? JaneyVee Jun 2014 #23
I certainly wouldn't contribute to Rethugs for any reason. Besides, Hillary will stop herself w/ all those self-destructive comments she makes. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #60
"If you want to stop Hillary,"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #135
Only dumb to those unwilling to see the reality for the trees! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #49
I believe in treating a candidate like a candidate. I think a primary should not be easy for anyone Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #21
Yeah, me, too. Let me know when someone announces. MineralMan Jun 2014 #22
Your OP presumes her candidacy and I am speaking in the context created by your OP Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #65
and who has done that? I have not heard a single HRC supporter call for no Primaries... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #51
That's not what I said, what I wrote is there to read again. I suggest you do so. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #64
and who HAS presented themselves yet? Projection much? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #84
Wow. Another dumb OP suggesting DUers that don't like Hillary want someone to the right of her. n/t Dawgs Jun 2014 #25
I suggested nothing of the sort. MineralMan Jun 2014 #27
Whatta guy! riqster Jun 2014 #33
I second that Emoji! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #53
Eh, whatevs. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #29
The Dumb is strong in this one. WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #30
Thanks for the kick. MineralMan Jun 2014 #31
I have a CPAP device. Saying "I am your father" sounds very Vaderish when wearing it. riqster Jun 2014 #34
Indeed. But, it's also a very useful thing. I hope it's helping MineralMan Jun 2014 #36
Oh hellz yeah, MM. Life-changing. Literally. riqster Jun 2014 #39
I have no problems with sleep apnea, but I have relatives who do. MineralMan Jun 2014 #42
Here's hoping the holdout changes their mind. Nt riqster Jun 2014 #43
Yes. We all keep trying. MineralMan Jun 2014 #44
I have sleep apnea too Spirochete Jun 2014 #155
"I sure picked the wrong week to put glue in the reservoir!" riqster Jun 2014 #158
"Cause now I'm stuck and can't get out of the water" Spirochete Jun 2014 #166
... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #121
Are you saying that only Republicans oppose Hillary? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #32
No. Not at all. MineralMan Jun 2014 #35
It may well be, but I prefer the Democrats who oppose Hillary and their posts. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #37
Oh, OK. MineralMan Jun 2014 #38
As I recall, Hillary did some particularly egregious negative campaigning in '08. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #40
Not with my support. I do not participate in negative MineralMan Jun 2014 #41
That's hilarious. This OP is negative campaigning. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #67
Well, I appreciate your concern, but I'm pretty sure on my feet. MineralMan Jun 2014 #68
But you're not the (presumptive) candidate, are you? ljm2002 Jun 2014 #138
I'm no kind of candidate. So far, I've never encountered any MineralMan Jun 2014 #139
Your position is clear... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #145
"it's fairly likely that Hillary Clinton will be the official candidate in 2016, right?" Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #127
So on the one hand... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #136
Thanks for your reply. MineralMan Jun 2014 #137
You're very welcome. ljm2002 Jun 2014 #142
wish in one hand.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #55
Some have. And, some Democrats vote for them. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #59
Okay good luck with that!!! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #88
If you're not an "idealogue" have you no ideals? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #91
I am a realist....perhaps you have heard of us? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #92
Realists have no ideals? No principles? No morals? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #94
Heh! ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #45
I've been told it is dumb, though. MineralMan Jun 2014 #48
I never listen to the opinions of lesser minds ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #74
Nor should you. MineralMan Jun 2014 #76
Just the latest lame riff on whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #54
Well isn't that a taste of your own medicine? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #56
Huh? whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #57
Typical "love it or leave it" type BS... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #58
I thought you used to post on freerepublic Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #61
I was banned from that site eight years ago. MineralMan Jun 2014 #75
But the internet history proves you wrong Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #81
You will do as you see fit, I'm sure. MineralMan Jun 2014 #90
Six years Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #103
+1000 Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #128
And even if you did post to the site that shall not be named ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #112
Thanks. I don't discuss that stuff here. MineralMan Jun 2014 #113
And I, for one, appreciate it. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #114
Yup. That's what matters. MineralMan Jun 2014 #115
Yep. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #116
Alrighty then... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #124
"So it makes me wonder why so many want her to leave her seat"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #168
Results of alert AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #66
Thanks for the results. Posters don't see jury MineralMan Jun 2014 #73
It's a lot simpler than that. ieoeja Jun 2014 #71
That could happen, but none of it will happen until MineralMan Jun 2014 #72
Only thing I've seen indicating a Hillary run is writing a book. ieoeja Jun 2014 #77
Putting out feelers doesn't always indicate an actual run, though. MineralMan Jun 2014 #86
kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2014 #95
K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #100
If you stay home on election day because you don't like any candidates, then your silent protest String Fiesta Jun 2014 #101
What a LOAD of SHIT. n/t DeSwiss Jun 2014 #106
You're right. String Fiesta Jun 2014 #126
"Nobody cares what you think." ljm2002 Jun 2014 #140
"On election day, I will agree it is only your vote that carries any weight." String Fiesta Jun 2014 #177
Shouldn't we be focused on 2014? morningfog Jun 2014 #102
Actually...... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #104
I can think of a lot of REPUBLICANS I would rather stop HockeyMom Jun 2014 #105
What is all this about? sadoldgirl Jun 2014 #109
Maybe just concentrate on 2014. Not worth getting worked up over Hillary Haters. Rex Jun 2014 #110
Well played mcar Jun 2014 #111
Trashing. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #117
Is this the start of the PUMA's again? neverforget Jun 2014 #118
I have a counter suggestion. Why bother following politics at all? Bonobo Jun 2014 #119
+100000 Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #129
You are a good man MM. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #122
What a silly post. Nt Logical Jun 2014 #123
Pledging to support a third party candidate has the same effect BainsBane Jun 2014 #125
Will you support Bernie when he wins the primary? grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #131
If Bernie wins the primary and gets the nomination MineralMan Jun 2014 #132
Cool! I'll do the same with Hill! grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #133
Clinton won't run. The GOP is just using the spectre struggle4progress Jun 2014 #141
I don't think that's clear at all. MineralMan Jun 2014 #143
When she stepped down as SoS last year, she said struggle4progress Jun 2014 #156
I remember that. She looked tired and frustrated to me at the time. MineralMan Jun 2014 #157
"I can engage in threads like this one"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #169
Four stars for use of All Caps AND Boldfacing in your rant! MineralMan Jun 2014 #170
And I reiterate... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #173
Surely, Comrade, you do not want Jones back. n/t Orsino Jun 2014 #144
I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you mean. MineralMan Jun 2014 #146
Hence this thread, alas. n/t Orsino Jun 2014 #147
Because it's Hillary's turn! JoeyT Jun 2014 #148
haha and that is true too. Demsrule86 Jun 2014 #163
good call...if you want to hand 2016 to GOP beachbum bob Jun 2014 #164
OK; so if you are not a HRC supporter, you are SURELY a conservative???? Sooo easy!!!!! mylye2222 Jun 2014 #175
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