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1StrongBlackMan

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112. And even if you did post to the site that shall not be named ...

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:26 PM

Jun 2014

getting banned as "the anti-site that shall not be named" is a good thing. And from what I have read, you seem more committed; actively doing the sh!t that actually matters (or rather, talking about what you are doing that actually matters ... this IS an anonymous message board) ... as opposed to pontificating about what legislation/policies others should be doing and/or pining for that magical candidate that could swoop in, tame the gop, and MAKE Democrats support progressive legislation that hasn't been written, and make anything right ... yesterday.

Funny thing is ... I can think of one VERY, VERY, VERY popular, among DU, Democratic candidate/non-candidate, with a republican history! They regularly stump for her here, and say they'll vote for her; but they don't want you to work to support Democratic candidates/non-candidates?

Yep ... These are the DUs of our lives.

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Want to Stop Hillary? Here's a Place where You Can Donate [View all] MineralMan Jun 2014 OP

Cause then you'll be funding someone worse? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #1

The problem is this: election math is pure binary. riqster Jun 2014 #2

It will stay that way as long as you can convince enough people Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #8

Convince, schmonvince. It's an observable, verifiable fact. riqster Jun 2014 #16

Came pretty damn close with Perot. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #19

Spoiler, perhaps. But it didn't alter the math. riqster Jun 2014 #24

Yup, math is math. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #26

Might, maybe, etc. etc. hasn't happened. riqster Jun 2014 #28

Sounds like some Greenwald crap, but we don't advocate for "3rd parties" at "Democratic" Underground Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #63

Yes, I did rather suspect I was Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #70

Nope, not my motivation. riqster Jun 2014 #79

Don't let them change your mind. The only way to choose the best candidate is to A Simple Game Jun 2014 #97

Perhaps you should get into a knock down drag out with the guys who made the rules? They're..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #162

Spot on, Tarheel_Dem, spot on. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #120

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #85

I'd be fine with Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #89

This ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #98

And the perpetual whiners have NOTHING! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #46

Well, since the whine comes from sour grapes, it's usually bitter anyway. riqster Jun 2014 #50

I have to agree....they would only bring Velveeta Cheese like product anyways.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #52

Observable, repeatable, independently verifiable. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #18

I get what you are saying; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #82

Ah, it'd possibly be the same. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #87

How will voting third party or staying home ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #93

First, I never 'stay home'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #96

Forgive me ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #107

I think one needs to differentiate between D=R and DLC=R. Chan790 Jun 2014 #172

That one problem with metaphors ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #176

lose what has been gained noiretextatique Jun 2014 #99

And not voting will be a stop-loss measure? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #108

Not voting dem = 0; voting dem = 1; voting rep = -1. Vattel Jun 2014 #130

That ain't how binary works. There is no third option. riqster Jun 2014 #134

Fail. Vattel Jun 2014 #149

Proof? riqster Jun 2014 #150

lol nt BootinUp Jun 2014 #151

I edited the post to provide proof Vattel Jun 2014 #152

However, you make my point regardless: not voting D helps the R. riqster Jun 2014 #153

If that is your only point then i agree. Vattel Jun 2014 #154

Let's break it down, shall we? ljm2002 Jun 2014 #165

I think it is our responsibility to show up. riqster Jun 2014 #167

Agreed. ljm2002 Jun 2014 #171

No argument there. But I am done waiting for the party to do it. riqster Jun 2014 #174

Kind of. ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #159

Quite possibly. But increasing D votes is always useful. riqster Jun 2014 #160

You make a good point. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #161

Dude! Nobody has even declared candidacy. MineralMan Jun 2014 #4

I want different candidates. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #6

OK. Just as soon as the 2014 election is over, I encourage MineralMan Jun 2014 #10

My influence is teeny tiny. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #17

OK. If he's on the primary ballot in Minnesota, he'll probably MineralMan Jun 2014 #20

as my grandmother used to say "wish in one hand..." VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #47

Oh, I'm fine with many of the Democrats. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #69

that you "think" being the operative word... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #83

It IS weird. Especially since no one has declared. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #15

That's how I've always done it. I vote more liberal in the primaries,but "D" in the general election Hekate Jun 2014 #62

I love you mineral man warrior1 Jun 2014 #78

Let me check with my wife on that... MineralMan Jun 2014 #80

more of that stupid 'homespun' wisdom. nt xchrom Jun 2014 #3

Thanks for kicking the thread! MineralMan Jun 2014 #11

No chance in hell would I give money to RW a-holes! nt arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #5

Maybe you can't see the sarcasm smiley on your device. MineralMan Jun 2014 #7

Damn, you're right...ok, time to open my g.damn eyes, sorry :( nt arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #12

ROFL. BootinUp Jun 2014 #9

dumb stuff is.... dumb stuff. cali Jun 2014 #13

It is, indeed, cali. MineralMan Jun 2014 #14

Why is it dumb? JaneyVee Jun 2014 #23

I certainly wouldn't contribute to Rethugs for any reason. Besides, Hillary will stop herself w/ all those self-destructive comments she makes. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #60

"If you want to stop Hillary,"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #135

Only dumb to those unwilling to see the reality for the trees! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #49

I believe in treating a candidate like a candidate. I think a primary should not be easy for anyone Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #21

Yeah, me, too. Let me know when someone announces. MineralMan Jun 2014 #22

Your OP presumes her candidacy and I am speaking in the context created by your OP Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #65

and who has done that? I have not heard a single HRC supporter call for no Primaries... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #51

That's not what I said, what I wrote is there to read again. I suggest you do so. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #64

and who HAS presented themselves yet? Projection much? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #84

Wow. Another dumb OP suggesting DUers that don't like Hillary want someone to the right of her. n/t Dawgs Jun 2014 #25

I suggested nothing of the sort. MineralMan Jun 2014 #27

Whatta guy! riqster Jun 2014 #33

I second that Emoji! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #53

Eh, whatevs. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #29

The Dumb is strong in this one. WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #30

Thanks for the kick. MineralMan Jun 2014 #31

I have a CPAP device. Saying "I am your father" sounds very Vaderish when wearing it. riqster Jun 2014 #34

Indeed. But, it's also a very useful thing. I hope it's helping MineralMan Jun 2014 #36

Oh hellz yeah, MM. Life-changing. Literally. riqster Jun 2014 #39

I have no problems with sleep apnea, but I have relatives who do. MineralMan Jun 2014 #42

Here's hoping the holdout changes their mind. Nt riqster Jun 2014 #43

Yes. We all keep trying. MineralMan Jun 2014 #44

I have sleep apnea too Spirochete Jun 2014 #155

"I sure picked the wrong week to put glue in the reservoir!" riqster Jun 2014 #158

"Cause now I'm stuck and can't get out of the water" Spirochete Jun 2014 #166

... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #121

Are you saying that only Republicans oppose Hillary? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #32

No. Not at all. MineralMan Jun 2014 #35

It may well be, but I prefer the Democrats who oppose Hillary and their posts. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #37

Oh, OK. MineralMan Jun 2014 #38

As I recall, Hillary did some particularly egregious negative campaigning in '08. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #40

Not with my support. I do not participate in negative MineralMan Jun 2014 #41

That's hilarious. This OP is negative campaigning. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #67

Well, I appreciate your concern, but I'm pretty sure on my feet. MineralMan Jun 2014 #68

But you're not the (presumptive) candidate, are you? ljm2002 Jun 2014 #138

I'm no kind of candidate. So far, I've never encountered any MineralMan Jun 2014 #139

Your position is clear... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #145

"it's fairly likely that Hillary Clinton will be the official candidate in 2016, right?" Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #127

So on the one hand... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #136

Thanks for your reply. MineralMan Jun 2014 #137

You're very welcome. ljm2002 Jun 2014 #142

wish in one hand.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #55

Some have. And, some Democrats vote for them. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #59

Okay good luck with that!!! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #88

If you're not an "idealogue" have you no ideals? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #91

I am a realist....perhaps you have heard of us? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #92

Realists have no ideals? No principles? No morals? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #94

Heh! ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #45

I've been told it is dumb, though. MineralMan Jun 2014 #48

I never listen to the opinions of lesser minds ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #74

Nor should you. MineralMan Jun 2014 #76

Just the latest lame riff on whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #54

Well isn't that a taste of your own medicine? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #56

Huh? whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #57

Typical "love it or leave it" type BS... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #58

I thought you used to post on freerepublic Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #61

I was banned from that site eight years ago. MineralMan Jun 2014 #75

But the internet history proves you wrong Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #81

You will do as you see fit, I'm sure. MineralMan Jun 2014 #90

Six years Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #103

+1000 Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #128

And even if you did post to the site that shall not be named ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #112

Thanks. I don't discuss that stuff here. MineralMan Jun 2014 #113

And I, for one, appreciate it. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #114

Yup. That's what matters. MineralMan Jun 2014 #115

Yep. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #116

Alrighty then... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #124

"So it makes me wonder why so many want her to leave her seat"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #168

Results of alert AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #66

Thanks for the results. Posters don't see jury MineralMan Jun 2014 #73

It's a lot simpler than that. ieoeja Jun 2014 #71

That could happen, but none of it will happen until MineralMan Jun 2014 #72

Only thing I've seen indicating a Hillary run is writing a book. ieoeja Jun 2014 #77

Putting out feelers doesn't always indicate an actual run, though. MineralMan Jun 2014 #86

kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2014 #95

K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #100

If you stay home on election day because you don't like any candidates, then your silent protest String Fiesta Jun 2014 #101

What a LOAD of SHIT. n/t DeSwiss Jun 2014 #106

You're right. String Fiesta Jun 2014 #126

"Nobody cares what you think." ljm2002 Jun 2014 #140

"On election day, I will agree it is only your vote that carries any weight." String Fiesta Jun 2014 #177

Shouldn't we be focused on 2014? morningfog Jun 2014 #102

Actually...... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #104

I can think of a lot of REPUBLICANS I would rather stop HockeyMom Jun 2014 #105

What is all this about? sadoldgirl Jun 2014 #109

Maybe just concentrate on 2014. Not worth getting worked up over Hillary Haters. Rex Jun 2014 #110

Well played mcar Jun 2014 #111

Trashing. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #117

Is this the start of the PUMA's again? neverforget Jun 2014 #118

I have a counter suggestion. Why bother following politics at all? Bonobo Jun 2014 #119

+100000 Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #129

You are a good man MM. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #122

What a silly post. Nt Logical Jun 2014 #123

Pledging to support a third party candidate has the same effect BainsBane Jun 2014 #125

Will you support Bernie when he wins the primary? grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #131

If Bernie wins the primary and gets the nomination MineralMan Jun 2014 #132

Cool! I'll do the same with Hill! grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #133

Clinton won't run. The GOP is just using the spectre struggle4progress Jun 2014 #141

I don't think that's clear at all. MineralMan Jun 2014 #143

When she stepped down as SoS last year, she said struggle4progress Jun 2014 #156

I remember that. She looked tired and frustrated to me at the time. MineralMan Jun 2014 #157

"I can engage in threads like this one"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #169

Four stars for use of All Caps AND Boldfacing in your rant! MineralMan Jun 2014 #170

And I reiterate... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #173

Surely, Comrade, you do not want Jones back. n/t Orsino Jun 2014 #144

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you mean. MineralMan Jun 2014 #146

Hence this thread, alas. n/t Orsino Jun 2014 #147

Because it's Hillary's turn! JoeyT Jun 2014 #148

haha and that is true too. Demsrule86 Jun 2014 #163

good call...if you want to hand 2016 to GOP beachbum bob Jun 2014 #164

OK; so if you are not a HRC supporter, you are SURELY a conservative???? Sooo easy!!!!! mylye2222 Jun 2014 #175