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Zalatix

(8,994 posts) Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:57 AM Apr 2012

So, fans of free trade, how does shipping jobs out of America create jobs for America? [View all]

And how are you supposed to pay for cheap Chinese goods on $0 an hour?

Wait, let me guess, they should just live on the dole until, somewhere over the rainbow, a flood of low paying jobs comes to their rescue?

Just a few more questions you should ask your friends who support free trade.

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So, fans of free trade, how does shipping jobs out of America create jobs for America? [View all] Zalatix Apr 2012 OP

better question is... how are the invested in outsourcing fascisthunter Apr 2012 #1

That's what corporations have done to f**k up our country, and why our country is in this Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #2

a better question is, why do members of the Democratic party accept this bart95 Apr 2012 #3

That's the only question for me. xchrom Apr 2012 #5

'the party of labor' bart95 Apr 2012 #7

The best question: Why isn't government wearing the blame? badtoworse Apr 2012 #4

Because nearly everybody in both parties did this to us and they knew exactly Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #67

What difference does it make that both parties did it? It's still the government's fault badtoworse Apr 2012 #68

I really ProSense Apr 2012 #6

But this isn't the WWII era when the infrastructures of Japan and Europe lay in ruins..... marmar Apr 2012 #8

So? That doesn't entitle them to American jobs. Zalatix Apr 2012 #9

Who said it did? ...... I was responding to the post right above mine. marmar Apr 2012 #10

it wasnt a straw man bart95 Apr 2012 #11

So ProSense Apr 2012 #12

a single issue that was never really tested bart95 Apr 2012 #14

i noticed your subtle change of wording bart95 Apr 2012 #16

"Reciprocal" or as Jefferson said, Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #23

It doesn't, and even the pro free-traders know it Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #13

False choice KurtNYC Apr 2012 #15

'contractors'? you mean like IT contractors? replacement has been MASSIVE bart95 Apr 2012 #17

Were Hondas made in the USA 35 years ago?? KurtNYC Apr 2012 #21

A failure? We still have tons of programmers in India servicing the US market Zalatix Apr 2012 #30

"IT contractors for American firms work HERE" - not all of them IDemo Apr 2012 #32

No, but TVs, clothing, shoes, appliances, toys, and just about every other consumer product were Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #34

Totally off-topic. Zalatix Apr 2012 #18

'It could have been made here, using American workers' bart95 Apr 2012 #19

It should be made here again. Zalatix Apr 2012 #20

I named 15 jobs that produce things that don't come from China KurtNYC Apr 2012 #22

Your response shows you didn't read my question, so DO NOT lecture me about research. Zalatix Apr 2012 #24

I read your question -- It is bogus. KurtNYC Apr 2012 #25

Your answer is bogus Hugabear Apr 2012 #28

It is not bogus. You once again did not read. I did put a question mark after it. Zalatix Apr 2012 #29

in your post 24 there was no question mark KurtNYC Apr 2012 #51

HAHAHAHAHA seriously, "how often do you beat your wife?" Zalatix Apr 2012 #52

I cited facts KurtNYC Apr 2012 #59

You cited irrelevant crap. You even admit we stopped making TVs Zalatix Apr 2012 #60

Perhaps a gain of 11 million net jobs is "irrelevant crap" to you KurtNYC Apr 2012 #61

Your argument just keeps taking on more holes. Zalatix Apr 2012 #62

Good luck with putting toddlers to work on your revived AMC Pacer assembly line KurtNYC Apr 2012 #63

As nicely as I can say this, Zalatix Apr 2012 #64

Housing? Really? Hugabear Apr 2012 #27

And has "sulfur" in the middle IDemo Apr 2012 #33

As of April 2009 Lowe's and Home Depot stopped selling Chinese drywall KurtNYC Apr 2012 #39

Wrong about X-rays Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #35

Speaking of video games... Hugabear Apr 2012 #37

Xbox is made in Brazil KurtNYC Apr 2012 #40

But not in the U.S.--that's the point Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #42

the games themselves are made her and sold here KurtNYC Apr 2012 #46

Blizzard is owned by Vivendi, which is a French company Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #49

ahh...but the jobs are still in Irvine KurtNYC Apr 2012 #54

Vivendi PURCHASED Blizzard Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #58

Fucking bullshit. Hugabear Apr 2012 #26

I'm sorry that happened to you and your wife. Zalatix Apr 2012 #38

Jobs making iPods, cell phones, solar panels, LEDs, video projectors, KurtNYC Apr 2012 #41

Still talking out of your ass Hugabear Apr 2012 #43

Ironic that you should use the phrase "Jobs making iPods" with respect to Chinese labour. (NT) Heywood J Apr 2012 #44

I used to work 14 and 16 hour days and KurtNYC Apr 2012 #47

Because tariffs aren't enough, we need to go further. Zalatix Apr 2012 #65

do you directly benefit from outsourcing American Labor? fascisthunter Apr 2012 #31

I bet he does--or else he's real young and truly does not realize Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #36

+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #55

Betting that is a YES! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #45

I have outsourced my DU posting to China, here is the answer (which cost me only 18-cents): KurtNYC Apr 2012 #48

But you haven't answered the question Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #50

Probably. Zalatix Apr 2012 #53

I'm right here. I can hear you guys. KurtNYC Apr 2012 #56

Yup, we know that. The problem is nobody's buying what you're selling. We all see right through it. Zalatix Apr 2012 #57

Isn't 'free trade' an oxymoron? Rex Apr 2012 #66

"Trickle Down" was a scam. KansDem Apr 2012 #69

Ask Robert Reich; he was all for NAFTA as Clinton's Sec'y of Labor, closeupready Apr 2012 #70

Better question is who is going to fund Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.? NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #71

Excellent point Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #72