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In reply to the discussion: Hey "some" men of DU [View all]progree
(10,904 posts)329. I hadn't heard. Here's the story for anyone else who missed it (another F.U. from the Sup. Court to
women. And to the men that the women take the contraceptives for. And an F.U. to REAL religious freedom -- the right to not have one's boss dictate his/her religious views).
Supreme Court sides with Christian college in birth control case, Washington Post, 7/3/14
The three female justices of the Supreme Court sharply rebuked their colleagues Thursday for siding with a Christian college in the latest battle over providing women with contraceptive coverage under the Affordable Care Act, saying the court was retreating from assurances offered only days ago.
In a short, unsigned opinion, the court said that Wheaton College in Illinois, at least temporarily, does not have to comply even with compromise provisions in the law that the college says still violate its religious beliefs.
Justice Sonia Sotomayor said the action cast doubt on the very accommodation the courts majority seemed to endorse Monday in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, which concerned businesses that objected to providing birth control that offends the owners beliefs.
Those who are bound by our decisions usually believe they can take us at our word, wrote Sotomayor, who was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan. Not so today.
More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/2014/07/03/622f7b12-02f8-11e4-8572-4b1b969b6322_story.html
The three female justices of the Supreme Court sharply rebuked their colleagues Thursday for siding with a Christian college in the latest battle over providing women with contraceptive coverage under the Affordable Care Act, saying the court was retreating from assurances offered only days ago.
In a short, unsigned opinion, the court said that Wheaton College in Illinois, at least temporarily, does not have to comply even with compromise provisions in the law that the college says still violate its religious beliefs.
Justice Sonia Sotomayor said the action cast doubt on the very accommodation the courts majority seemed to endorse Monday in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, which concerned businesses that objected to providing birth control that offends the owners beliefs.
Those who are bound by our decisions usually believe they can take us at our word, wrote Sotomayor, who was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan. Not so today.
More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/2014/07/03/622f7b12-02f8-11e4-8572-4b1b969b6322_story.html
There's a lot more at the "More", including disagreement on the impact of this.
Yes, Stephen Breyer -- the only male who joined the 3 females in dissent in the Hobby Lobby case -- did not join their dissent in this ruling, no reason given. In case anyone was wondering.
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they're allowing our health car to be a wedge issue, which encourages RW voters to show up....
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#3
they are not fooling anyone, and have taken over the hosts' forum and dragged DU
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#211
exactly- at this point, posters are emboldened to suggest Obama resign, and women show their tits?
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#291
I hate to think he enjoys the extra clicks. But that "educate them" directive is bullshit.
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#311
I saw a topless post but assumed it was from a Woman so I jokingly said yeah...
randys1
Jul 2014
#176
I was surprised you went long with it, because you are usually awesome..... But you know what-
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#212
It was a total fluke on my part, i can try and find it, i thought it was a lib Woman
randys1
Jul 2014
#214
Courtesy of the hosts, yeah- *some* of them make fun of feminists all the time.
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#213
I mean they come out in GD and post "show us your tits" and they call us a "group" in hosts that
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#322
That's, actually, not surprising. It's beginning to feel like whack-a-mole here with the thinly
Squinch
Jul 2014
#323
Ya, hence this response of mine that I thought might earn me my first hide in a while...
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#87
thank you for taking one for the team, Steve. The anti feminist alerters are rough here.
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#112
Here's another dude telling us wimminfolk to simmer down and not get all outragey:
Arugula Latte
Jul 2014
#171
Quoting Freddy.. "turned out to be media manipulation of the left wing." Just wow....
Katashi_itto
Jul 2014
#173
Agreed. Almost all DU men know this situation is an equality issue for them as much as for women.
ancianita
Jul 2014
#22
But those that do are among the most vocal and there are more of them every day.
Squinch
Jul 2014
#337
For me, the HL decision just keeps sinking deeper and deeper in. Stunning. And then to have to fight
Hekate
Jul 2014
#21
I agree. The decision is atrocious, and not too surprisingly it breaks on ideological lines.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#25
Its really too bad that a statement like that would be required on this site.
FreedRadical
Jul 2014
#32
Dear Juror #7 = I agree. Last line needs editing. Please delete the word :Kindly:
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2014
#46
Again, you need to read these OP's before you comment on them. Read this one carefully.
Squinch
Jul 2014
#97
Great list - here's another "it's only a few closely held corporations" (so far). & "a very narrow
progree
Jul 2014
#51
Their "clarification" today made it broad enough to cover every Catholic owned business
Warpy
Jul 2014
#52
Thanks for posting. I know people who are in a position to boycott some of these
myrna minx
Jul 2014
#131
I just had someone tell me that one can always get another job or pay for their own insurance.
cui bono
Jul 2014
#72
OR: You could go to Canada, so it's not that big a deal. OR: Its REAL danger is in the
Squinch
Jul 2014
#339
Yes, they are liberals and Dems. Among feminists elsewhere they are commonly referred to as
redqueen
Jul 2014
#115
Thank you for not falling for that.The disingenous "liberals can't be sexist/racist/homophobic" crap
Number23
Jul 2014
#167
By definition sexist/racist/homophobic ARE NOT LIBERALS. How do they qualify for the label of
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#243
So you think that only you "live in the real world"? A bit audacious dont you think?
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#279
Like I said, you just keep telling yourself that. Perhaps one day you'll convince yourself
Number23
Jul 2014
#319
BY DEFINITION, RACISTS ARE NOT LIBERAL. Being liberal means, by definition, you are not racist.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#327
"The Rest of Us Know Better". Really. You need to hate so badly you dont care who
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#331
It amazes me that you use this opportunity to trash liberals. "And the liberals on DU" Apparently
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#138
" First, I am speaking of a particular sub-set of DU" No you werent. You were very clear.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#146
People that are bigots, sexists, misogynists are not liberal by definition.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#255
I apologize if I overreacted. I am sensitive about supposed "politically liberals" attacking
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#261
I will work extra hard for progressives, but sorry, I have seen too many Blue Dogs stab
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#265
I will agree with you on paper. But if a Democrat supported Dick Cheney's war crimes,
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#280
The term "reality" gets bandied about. I see the current "reality" as not having
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#287
Yes I totally agree. If you are chucking rocks at liberals then liberals will yelp. But why
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#239
I will admit that I may have overreacted. I have a large chip on my shoulder.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#286
My point is that those that are racist, homophobic, sexist, are not by definition liberal.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#334
And then we get bizarre posts and even OPs telling us that no one should judge anyone's beliefs!
Arugula Latte
Jul 2014
#296
I'm going to add one: If you think the damage from this ruling lies only in the "slippery slope,"
Squinch
Jul 2014
#98
Well said and I am greatly familiar with that attitude, often out of the same people, toward LGBT
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#99
What a marvelous post! Might I also add, "Go fuck yourself and get pregnant." nt
valerief
Jul 2014
#100
This whole issue is the fault of conservative judges appointed by Republicans
IronLionZion
Jul 2014
#104
Exactly. Thank you for illustrating what is so horribly wrong and sexist about this OP. nt
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#158
I just think that unnecessary quotes website is hysterically "funny".
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#159
I did not alert on this thread, though I did think about doing so. "Thanks" for caring though. nt
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#234
"Unnecessary" quotation marks totally "change the meaning" of these "signs"
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#262
WTF? I think you are saying you agree. So why the cracks about echo chambers, protected groups
Squinch
Jul 2014
#132
No, they don't understand how oafish they sound. They think they are rational, sage, and wise. n/t
MadrasT
Jul 2014
#147
Oh, FFS. I nominate you as the poster child for the "You're alienating your allies and it's all
Squinch
Jul 2014
#179
Yeah, attacks on contraception and abortion have NOTHING to do with gender.
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#195
I hadn't heard. Here's the story for anyone else who missed it (another F.U. from the Sup. Court to
progree
Jul 2014
#329
you just said "you don't have a dog in this particular gender fight", why do you think that is?
CreekDog
Jul 2014
#292
Many dont see it as restricting birth control, just that someone else isn't paying for it
davidn3600
Jul 2014
#183
I'm sorry but single payer brings this issue to the forefront even more so.
boston bean
Jul 2014
#200
Birth control, as part of the coverage offered by employee insurance, isn't "free."
thucythucy
Jul 2014
#189
no, there isn't truth to that, contra to what Limbaugh says. it's about an employer being allowed
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#193
LIES. Birth control is not free with insurance. Why don't you educate yourself just a little bit
bettyellen
Jul 2014
#218
Yeah, my goals align quite nicely with allies who believe in equal rights for women.
boston bean
Jul 2014
#282
Seriously, can't you guys come up with anything new? Ever? Because this shit is getting monotonous.
Squinch
Jul 2014
#313
I have been butting heads with idiots on Discussionist who making these arguments
Gothmog
Jul 2014
#220
Anyone who downplays the danger of encroaching theocracy is a goddamn fool. Plain and simple. n/t
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#232