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BainsBane

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193. Could say the same thing about the NSA

Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:43 AM

Jul 2014

If they wanted the people's input, they would have made us (or you) National Security Director, only they didn't.

All anyone expects is even-handed decision making rather than hosts making not even caring that they don't have a reason for their decisions. You obviously object to that a great deal. You go on and on endlessly about transparency in government, yet insist none of it should apply to you.

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I just wanted to post a quick note of support for Violet Crumble... [View all] stevenleser Jul 2014 OP

To Violet! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #1

I've always liked her. Kaleva Jul 2014 #2

I agree wholeheartedly. cyberswede Jul 2014 #3

I've always liked her. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #4

Everyone makes mistakes BainsBane Jul 2014 #5

I've been following this..... Little Star Jul 2014 #9

I haven't seen it BainsBane Jul 2014 #12

Sometimes I'm a bit slow. Duh! Little Star Jul 2014 #13

No, it was how I wrote the sentence BainsBane Jul 2014 #14

She does below BainsBane Jul 2014 #126

Thanks. Little Star Jul 2014 #129

Is there a back-story? Seems like odd times at DU as of late. Throd Jul 2014 #6

It's a bit convoluted. Has to do with the whole Quinnox issue/banning. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #7

Thanks. That's all I need to know. I'm going to walk away from this thread now. Throd Jul 2014 #10

(in my best Jimmy JJ Walker voice) SAY WHATTTTT???!! Number23 Jul 2014 #38

Yup... SidDithers Jul 2014 #42

Hot Damn!!! Number23 Jul 2014 #45

+1 Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #130

In the spirit of moving on... PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #8

What Happened, Sir? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #11

I will PM you. I don't want to make this OP/thread about the ugliness. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #15

Gee Steve it already is about the ugliness. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #80

Alas, the details did get posted shortly after I expressed those comments. stevenleser Jul 2014 #92

cd you pls pm me too? I knew Violet, used to email her, but lost touch with her, and ellenrr Jul 2014 #150

She was taken advantage of by a troll cyberswede Jul 2014 #16

there was no being taken of advantage there JI7 Jul 2014 #18

I've been in contact with her, and I believe she acted in good faith... cyberswede Jul 2014 #25

+1 Go Vols Jul 2014 #27

good point, hopefully she will do the same for those who alert that were ignored before JI7 Jul 2014 #29

+1 Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #133

I don't doubt she did what she thought was best BainsBane Jul 2014 #44

Plus a hundred! Sissyk Jul 2014 #66

good summary. nt uppityperson Jul 2014 #19

I wouldn't have known that locking someone else's OP at their request was a bad thing. stevenleser Jul 2014 #21

She knew better. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #24

It was while the hosts' group consensus was to leave it, so actually it is kind of serious bettyellen Jul 2014 #30

Yes, it's kind of hard to see this as just an unfortunate mistake that anyone could have made. Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #31

agreed- it was with full knowledge of how disruptive it would be, no "mistake" there. bettyellen Jul 2014 #33

Fwiw, she quietly unlocked it on her own, without posting about it in F&G. cyberswede Jul 2014 #32

knowing the proper thing to do would be informing the hosts who were upset- but instead Quinnox is bettyellen Jul 2014 #34

Wait... are you people saying that quinnox was banned??! Number23 Jul 2014 #39

it's true. There's a 420+ reply post about it on page 1. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #40

yes, it's the thread about a Bridge and Troll with over 400 posts as of this moment JI7 Jul 2014 #41

Going through it now! I am laughing my ass off at these "ohh, why didn't people just put the Number23 Jul 2014 #46

did you see the threads during the past few days which led up to this ? JI7 Jul 2014 #48

No, I didn't see them. I have grown utterly exhausted by this place and don't spend nearly as much Number23 Jul 2014 #50

I hope you stick around a little, at least. We need your voice. cyberswede Jul 2014 #107

Thank you for that. That is really kind of you. Number23 Jul 2014 #125

I like the way you put that BootinUp Jul 2014 #120

You have to give props to Q. Not only did he game the system, but he charmed & trolled the "hosts". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #134

Oh girl, please. He only charmed and trolled those displaying the same behavior as him Number23 Jul 2014 #138

mmm hmm. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #142

The huffery has gone to DefCon Level Nth, with his departure. Funny that he departs.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #144

"Huffery" is a great word... SidDithers Jul 2014 #154

It does kinda roll off the tongue, don't it? And is perfectly suited to this "situation". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #156

Happy to be giving you the good news, my fellow group member! bettyellen Jul 2014 #43

Yes her intentions were good and she didnt deserve the harassment she got. Now we have rhett o rick Jul 2014 #53

Reading the host threads posted in GD was certainly an eye opener. BainsBane Jul 2014 #75

Here is a snippet of my posts as GD Host regarding this which I think explains most of it: boston bean Jul 2014 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #82

I think you left out a bit. Sissyk Jul 2014 #87

EarlG locked others as well maddezmom Jul 2014 #93

Yes he did. Sissyk Jul 2014 #95

Guess what I was trying to say, is he locked others maddezmom Jul 2014 #97

You are correct. Sissyk Jul 2014 #101

I love the hell out of this: MadrasT Jul 2014 #96

It certainly shows why he was PPR'd BainsBane Jul 2014 #114

amazing how such an asshole of that level JI7 Jul 2014 #122

I don't know the details, but I always respect your opinion on matters. merrily Jul 2014 #103

quinnox finally got banned? DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #76

I Appreciate The Information The Magistrate Jul 2014 #55

i don't think it was a mistake on her part JI7 Jul 2014 #17

I agree with you...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #22

+ 1 nt riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #47

Narcasists tend to, also, be seductive ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #52

She's about the most inoffensive person I've ever met on this site LittleBlue Jul 2014 #20

I've rarely had disagreements with VC and appreciate her posts. I don't Purveyor Jul 2014 #23

She hasn't been PPRed Aerows Jul 2014 #26

Kick and Rec! zappaman Jul 2014 #28

Democracy is hard work. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #35

I would like to hear from her directly. Kali Jul 2014 #36

Always loved violet. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #37

I was on MIRT w/her and she seemed really nice TBF Jul 2014 #49

My favorite Aussie IronLionZion Jul 2014 #51

Where to begin..... Sissyk Jul 2014 #54

Hmmm. I didn't intend this OP to hash out what happened, but this helps fill in a lot. Thanks stevenleser Jul 2014 #58

Thanks for that. Sissyk Jul 2014 #59

Thank you for this post. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #61

You're welcome. Sissyk Jul 2014 #65

I think you are over-analyzing. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #63

Thank you for this! Sissyk Jul 2014 #64

I have very limited knowledge of what goes on in the hosts forum BainsBane Jul 2014 #71

Thank you. Sissyk Jul 2014 #83

Wow. Thank you for all of that, Sissyk. Best wishes to both you and VioletCrumble. Hekate Jul 2014 #73

Thank you. Sissyk Jul 2014 #85

the hosts forum sounds a little bit like meta hfojvt Jul 2014 #74

I agree with this post. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #81

Thank you, Warren. Sissyk Jul 2014 #86

I think yr being way too hard on yrself and you don't have anything to take the blame for... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #89

Thank you, VC! Sissyk Jul 2014 #90

I appreciate your post and I believe VC will also. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #91

Thanks, rhett. Sissyk Jul 2014 #94

The one to blame can't apologize. JTFrog Jul 2014 #115

He had support on some of those threads from people who are not banned merrily Jul 2014 #118

If only. But those that trashed VC are responsible for their own actions and haven't been rhett o rick Jul 2014 #123

A wise woman instructed me to give forgiveness when someone asks for it, merrily Jul 2014 #102

Thank you, merrily. Sissyk Jul 2014 #104

You're most welcome. merrily Jul 2014 #108

Oh, I'm finished beating up myself! Sissyk Jul 2014 #109

Good for you on both counts. merrily Jul 2014 #111

Yes, it was all over a thread about shaving. Sissyk Jul 2014 #116

I have enjoyed it as well, sissyk. merrily Jul 2014 #117

*this* is exactly why Texasgal Jul 2014 #137

please pm me about whatever happened. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2014 #56

I feel like she was manipulated by a charismatic friend. bravenak Jul 2014 #57

I think saying "she was manipulated by a charismatic friend" isn't the best way to clear her name. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #206

i stopped reading at "feeding frenzy" and this is the insult to duers. a troll, we were all mostly seabeyond Jul 2014 #209

Violet was one of the personalities on Foreign Affairs (I/P) forum many years ago Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #60

My wife is Australian. Her favorite was Violet Crumble... DreamGypsy Jul 2014 #62

I am totally confused by this whole thing StevieM Jul 2014 #67

only a General Discussion host can lock a thread in here steve2470 Jul 2014 #68

Who is a GD host? Is that like an Administrator? (eom) StevieM Jul 2014 #69

they are members who have chosen to host this forum steve2470 Jul 2014 #70

I like VC. She & I butted heads our first MIRT term together and came to mutually respect each other Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #72

Agree with you maddezmom Jul 2014 #77

I am quite sure that VC acted in good faith. As indeed did SissyK. LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #79

Violet Crumble, you have lots of support. You were doing your very best KittyWampus Jul 2014 #84

Okay, reading through most of this thread was a humbling experience... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #88

Violet_Crumble MadrasT Jul 2014 #98

Welcome back VC. I hope you won't let your treatment discourage you from hosting. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #99

excellent post and commendable attitude nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #100

glad you posted. I hope the people who slammed you are shamed OKNancy Jul 2014 #105

I'm sorry things went down the way they did. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #106

Thanks for posting. cyberswede Jul 2014 #110

Good to see you back maddezmom Jul 2014 #113

Glad you are still here, VC. merrily Jul 2014 #119

HA! Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #121

I appreciate that you addressed the issue CreekDog Jul 2014 #124

I have to agree with you here. How the person that broke hosting rules boston bean Jul 2014 #152

+1... SidDithers Jul 2014 #155

So are you saying that maybe VC will be the next "house-keeping" project? Don't you rhett o rick Jul 2014 #157

No, that's not what I'm saying... SidDithers Jul 2014 #158

I think what you guys did and are continuing to do with regard to VC is low. But it seems rhett o rick Jul 2014 #159

No, that's not at all what I said... SidDithers Jul 2014 #160

How would you know what a liberal Democrat would do? What VC did was one event rhett o rick Jul 2014 #161

I know what a liberal democrat is because you continually tell me what one would do and not do... SidDithers Jul 2014 #162

I will give you credit for being clever. But your "house-keeping" stinks. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #163

I don't know what your obsession wtih "house-keeping" is BainsBane Jul 2014 #169

Rick likes to accuse people who alert for SOP of practicing censorship... SidDithers Jul 2014 #170

Oh, I see BainsBane Jul 2014 #171

No worries. But only he knows why he says the things he says... SidDithers Jul 2014 #172

WHAT?? Do tell. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #168

C'mon, rhett, spill the beans!!! Who was caught doing this? PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #173

Don't you think if anyone had BainsBane Jul 2014 #174

Exactly. I think Rhett o Rick is just making that up. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #185

What was the answer? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #215

You are one ornery ....er something or other. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #219

Since serving a couple terms on MIRT with you, I have always seen you as fair and objective. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #135

Hang in there! kdmorris Jul 2014 #149

DAAAAAAAAAAAA-RAMA! snooper2 Jul 2014 #112

Bottom line is DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #127

They've got one BainsBane Jul 2014 #128

oh really? DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #131

I like Violet. What happened to her? nt ellenrr Jul 2014 #132

I've always enjoyed Violets Texasgal Jul 2014 #136

Read the SoP. This is not GD material. morningfog Jul 2014 #139

Cats and guns Go Vols Jul 2014 #140

You tried your SOP alert and the hosts rejected it. Move on. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #141

I knew the hosts wouldn't lock. They are worthless morningfog Jul 2014 #143

Hosts can only rule on the original post, which was not whining but in support of a DUer uppityperson Jul 2014 #145

If I had been a host I wouldn't have locked this either BainsBane Jul 2014 #146

Point of order! Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #148

I'm happy to try BainsBane Jul 2014 #153

This GD host has a question for you... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #147

I think it's inappropriate to trash hosts. Not all host decisions are consistent because rhett o rick Jul 2014 #164

i think it is inappropriate for hosts to trash duers. seabeyond Jul 2014 #165

I agree. No one in DU should be trashing anyone. There are still a few above that are rhett o rick Jul 2014 #167

Open the hosting forum so we can read and decide. morningfog Jul 2014 #177

Read and decide what? nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #181

You know, transparency, democracy BainsBane Jul 2014 #183

Like the MIRT discussions? nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #190

Sure, why not? BainsBane Jul 2014 #192

Whether there is any basis for decisions. morningfog Jul 2014 #187

I dont have a problem with the host's discussions being open rhett o rick Jul 2014 #189

LOL. The GD Hosts are worthless and don't do jack. morningfog Jul 2014 #191

You realize you could see right now... Agschmid Jul 2014 #194

Here's what confused me the short time I was a host BainsBane Jul 2014 #196

Nope... Agschmid Jul 2014 #199

I only have an issue with GD. morningfog Jul 2014 #197

Well then this will help... Agschmid Jul 2014 #198

I only have an issue with the Music Appreciation Group. Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #201

Results of your Jury Service X_Digger Jul 2014 #207

Hmmm...silly alert imo. one_voice Jul 2014 #210

Jesus Fucking Christ. RiffRandell Jul 2014 #213

Shocked they didn't suggest she be banned... one_voice Jul 2014 #216

Good reply. I tend to over react when people trash hosts in GD. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #200

I believe one has to have a star to be a host. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #204

You are correct, I overlooked that. Agschmid Jul 2014 #205

Could say the same thing about the NSA BainsBane Jul 2014 #193

I wouldn't have a problem with GD Host's Forum being open to all to see if there was a rhett o rick Jul 2014 #202

I don't disagree with that BainsBane Jul 2014 #211

You have very valid questions. The very concept of getting a small group out rhett o rick Jul 2014 #212

I did address them to the administrators BainsBane Jul 2014 #214

The decisions from the GD Hosts will differ depending on who is in the rhett o rick Jul 2014 #217

I might have believed that BainsBane Jul 2014 #218

I voted not to hide your reply. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #195

Thank you, and I would say the same back at you. Maintaining person sanity is my goal. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #203

Time to let it go, this forum is now GD/META Rex Jul 2014 #176

They have changed the rules, by not enforcing them. morningfog Jul 2014 #178

Then they are changed, officially or unofficially. Rex Jul 2014 #180

Are you complaining about the GD Hosts? It's getting to be an old record. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #182

me too mercuryblues Jul 2014 #151

A fresh perspective! A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #175

let's face it mercuryblues Jul 2014 #184

I unequivocabally do not disagree. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2014 #188

She's awesome! RiffRandell Jul 2014 #166

When someone is sick or their family has a tragedy, they come in here and tell us. Rex Jul 2014 #179

Well done, well done indeed and thank you. Autumn Jul 2014 #186

I've mixed it up with her many time and even had some heated arguments. She is a great human being. Kurska Jul 2014 #208

K&R for someone I've always considered to be an outstanding friend to have closeupready Jul 2014 #220