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Liberal_Stalwart71

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39. There always is. Democrats are never ever satisfied with their candidates, so we get angry and stay
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:17 PM
Jul 2014

home because we didn't get everything we wanted. Or, the guy/gal we supported isn't sufficiently liberal enough.

I have my issues with Obama AND the Clintons. But they are electable candidates. As much as I love Elizabeth Warren and the more liberal contingent of the Democratic Party, those politicians are not electable. We have to work to change the minds of the electorate.

Larry O'Donnell put it plainly tonight in his commentary on liberalism and how Republicans/conservatives have successfully made "liberal" a bad word: he said that until we are able to change the political culture and redefine what liberal is--turning it into something good and not nefarious--we will continue down this path.

The double standards will always be placed on Democratic politicians, especially presidents, because Americans expect Democrats to govern; they expect Republicans to play politics. That is a major double standard that we have seen played out to the 10th power with this particular president. No matter what he does it's never good enough and everyone on all sides is angry at him. Meanwhile, he has to govern, forced to work with racist assholes in the legislature who want nothing but to destroy him regardless of who dies (by not expanding Medicaid in their respective states, for instance).

I just hate when smart Democrats commit the same mistake--play into double standards against our own. We should know better.

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An Open Letter to Hillary Clinton [View all] babylonsister Jul 2014 OP
K and R bigwillq Jul 2014 #1
Nor mine. Why should we vote for a Hillary who claims she has seen Jesus and JDPriestly Jul 2014 #42
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #2
how 'bout just, please don't run. n/t Dawgs Jul 2014 #3
She can run. bigwillq Jul 2014 #4
ok. i would rather she doesn't run. n/t Dawgs Jul 2014 #5
Wow! Marianne Williamson nails it! mahalo babylonsistah! Cha Jul 2014 #6
If you agree with this, do you agree the current administration should also not do these things? BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #9
+1 Scuba Jul 2014 #16
Yes. And, don't worry.. no one is holding Hillary to a higher standard. It's just common Cha Jul 2014 #22
I agree with it, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2014 #29
Unless we get the Corpratists out of Congress and off the Benches it wouldn't change much! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #50
Such bullshit! They way you guys have treated this president with all your double standards? PLEASE! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #36
I was actually asking if there will be a double standard for the next Democratic candidate BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #38
There always is. Democrats are never ever satisfied with their candidates, so we get angry and stay Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #39
If you believe that Democrats must bow to corporate interests to be elected BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #55
See, you're part of the problem. I did not say that and I DO NOT believe that. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #56
It is the only logical conclusion from your posts BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #57
The question ain't whether the candidate is electable. Hoppy Jul 2014 #68
I do believe that the current administration should not do these things. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #44
And that says it. Balls in your court now Hillary. jwirr Jul 2014 #7
Alerting for testicles reference. (j/k) lovemydog Jul 2014 #35
Have you ever heard of basketball? It is played on a court!!! jwirr Jul 2014 #62
"(j/k)" means "just kidding". nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #64
Sorry. I did not know that - too old and am just learning this new way of communicating. Thanks jwirr Jul 2014 #65
no problem, glad to help. awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #67
Just who would you back who has been in politics who has not taken contributions from corporations? Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #8
A more relevant question for this thread is who the hell is Marianne Williamson? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #12
By the information she has on her site she has not decided how she will run as Independent and has Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #18
One of the many things Jimmy Carter, George McGovern and Hillary Clinton have in common... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #20
Reality is running for a national office takes a lot of money, corporations donate to candidates on Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #37
Marianne Williamson is great. She is a spiritual leader on the left. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #45
She does declare as a democrat nor does she know if she will caucus with the Democrats which Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #47
She can't run in November. She will not be in Congres. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #58
The point is she has said her position is she did not know how she would run and id she ran as an Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #59
Yes, Marianne Williamson has an opinion about Hillary.. Fucking GMO and their poisonous Cha Jul 2014 #24
I stand with pro science Democrats like Jimmy Carter and George McGovern in their support for GMOs wyldwolf Jul 2014 #27
Yeah, you stand with them.. I stand with my friends in the Hawaiian Islands who don't want anything Cha Jul 2014 #31
Show us any anecdotal or empirical evidence GMOs are bad. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #32
From wiki, and I am familiar with her via sister: babylonsister Jul 2014 #25
Woman speaks the truth. Skidmore Jul 2014 #10
who then? blackapron Jul 2014 #11
Other choices will emerge, imo bigwillq Jul 2014 #14
Hillary has a lot of baggage in that unstoppable train and a lot of CYA to do. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #13
Clinton is hyping the inequality rhetoric. joshcryer Jul 2014 #15
another attack on Clinton - this one pretending that there's something Clinton could do bigtree Jul 2014 #17
Not an attack, one person's opinion. Since I haven't babylonsister Jul 2014 #19
it actually is an attack, and the same old same old wyldwolf Jul 2014 #21
The question is whether a candidate who relies on so much corporate funding is worth electing. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #46
it's an attack, a cute one, but still an attack bigtree Jul 2014 #23
Point, bigtree Hekate Jul 2014 #49
Thanks.. this would be good in the OP.. since some have no clue who Marianne Williamson is.. Cha Jul 2014 #26
And, so what if it is an attack? no one has a right to "attack" Hillary with how she feels about Cha Jul 2014 #33
hi, Cha bigtree Jul 2014 #34
I agree that she has a right to speak out.. regardless of her "yada yada yada" attitude toward Cha Jul 2014 #41
sure, Cha, she can speak out all she wants bigtree Jul 2014 #48
I know how you feel, bigtree.. after I read the whole thing Cha Jul 2014 #51
GMO's threaten our food supply bigtree Jul 2014 #53
Thank you for this!!!! "My concern is with the elimination of native species of plants." That's Cha Jul 2014 #54
That is the weirdest nonendorsement endorsement I've ever read. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #28
k/r 840high Jul 2014 #30
Could Not Agree More cantbeserious Jul 2014 #40
It's way too late. delrem Jul 2014 #43
well done! nt G_j Jul 2014 #52
So... people will vote for her if she changes completely who she is? Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #60
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #61
I'm not into this woman, but K&R for important points.. n/t 2banon Jul 2014 #63
If HRC is nominated Thespian2 Jul 2014 #66
R, R, R fadedrose Jul 2014 #69
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