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PCIntern

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Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:24 AM Apr 2012

OK, so some of you jumped all over me yesterday after the horrible plane crash [View all]

because I had the temerity to state that in no time at all, the apologists for the military would be all over this story, changing facts and generally making shit up.

Well, guess what? I was not wrong...

Within minutes, Kyra Phillips on CNN stated that these two pilots were "heroes" because they tried to make it to the beach because, she added and I'm only slightly paraphrasing, all fighter pilots know that they must ditch over water or open territory so as not to hit areas which contain people and property (and oh yes, pets - musn't forget those). She apparrently has flown planes out of this "exact same runway" herself, and because the tail of the plane was horizontal, then blah blah blah, pilots doing an amazing job of not hitting a school.

First, how the Hell would she know what was going through their minds during the incident? She didn't interview them, she was just busy making excuses before she knew anything.

Second, the whole area is densely populated so if you crash on takeoff, you're gonna hit something civilian almost fer sure. Fair enough...I grew up near the Willow Grove Naval Air Station and we had some near misses and a couple incidents over the decades. It happens...but I have no recollection of the local news people making up stories a priori. what they USED to say was "The FAA and military investigators will have to investigate this incident." and leave it at that. They didn't make up plausible scenarios and state them as fact.

Third, and damn it, I KNOW I'm right about this: the lying-ass military-industrial complex is given a big pass even by those on Progressive Websites by those who think that they're all gung-ho-military such that you went after me when all I stated was that they were going to concoct a story, if they could, which would absolve the pilots if at all possible, reiterate that they do everything as safely as possible, and that if the pilots happened to be Republicans, then all the better - OK, that was a cynical remark, but not far off the center of truth. Those who have any kind of memory will recall the young lady who was the POW in Iraq rescued by a team whose exploits could have been portrayed in Marvel Comics. Turned out of course, that it was almost all BS. But that's OK...we need our stories of heroism and valor and since Audie Murphy's dead, and John Wayne was only a movie actor, then we have to come up with new ones for the new generation.

Fourth and finally, to those who typed out a knee-jerk response to my post: you might consider the bigger picture once in a while. It would do you some good - the fact of the matter was that all I really said was that I was awaiting the usual gabble-degook from the PR folk at the military and for that I was excoriated.

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It doesn't surprise me that Phillips came out with that "Great Santini" shit. brewens Apr 2012 #1
"If you don't have control, save yourself!" panzerfaust Apr 2012 #5
If they had no control over the plane then get the fuck out, eject madokie Apr 2012 #8
Why should they die if they had no control? treestar Apr 2012 #27
"Put the safety of unsuspecting people on the ground second to his own personal safety." PavePusher Apr 2012 #29
It's the 24/7 news cycle. onlyadream Apr 2012 #2
Doesn't make it right and she wasn't in 'conjecture' mode anyway...n/t PCIntern Apr 2012 #3
Oh cry me a river. You're the one conjecturing. Demit Apr 2012 #4
the only reason I scaled back that post PCIntern Apr 2012 #12
Why scale back? izquierdista Apr 2012 #14
Jessica Lynch? Was that her name? proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #6
There is always a matter of timing. quaker bill Apr 2012 #7
So basically you're disappointed that the pilots lived MadHound Apr 2012 #9
The you better get your ears checked... PCIntern Apr 2012 #11
Yes, all the facts have yet to come out, MadHound Apr 2012 #15
OK, one more time with feeling... PCIntern Apr 2012 #21
You didn't wait for an investigation to smear the pilots. hack89 Apr 2012 #26
"the people who caused it directly" WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #28
I don't think so atreides1 Apr 2012 #13
Madhound azmesa207 Apr 2012 #43
I hope they didn't follow Air Force procedure! MADem Apr 2012 #51
I'm always amused by the railing against the MIC here on DU, but then... Javaman Apr 2012 #10
Ah, so we're not pure unless we're pissed that the pilots didn't die? n/t MadHound Apr 2012 #16
you cherry picked a lot from my comment. Javaman Apr 2012 #56
Won't jump ON you, I'll jump in WITH you. trof Apr 2012 #17
Well, considering that witnesses saw flames coming out of at least one engine MadHound Apr 2012 #18
+1 Rex Apr 2012 #39
Couple of things: 1. Flame could have been afterburner. trof Apr 2012 #47
I heard/saw a Navy spokesperson on TV saying that the fuel leaking (gushing?) led them gateley Apr 2012 #20
THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2012 #50
I wouldn't necessarily assume Kyra Phillips is a military apologist (although she may very well gateley Apr 2012 #19
In the "old days", bvar22 Apr 2012 #22
Now let that be a lesson to you gratuitous Apr 2012 #23
i didn't see that thread barbtries Apr 2012 #24
I turned on the tv when the Navy spokesperson was giving his spin. That is exactly what it was monmouth Apr 2012 #25
I didn't jump on you. I know that area well. DevonRex Apr 2012 #30
Well it seems today that by the grace of God, or sheer luck (take your choice)... 1620rock Apr 2012 #31
Wow! i didn't know we had all these fighter pilots here on DU! PCIntern Apr 2012 #33
Which proves you know nothing whatsoever about airplanes OR pilots. Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #46
Sorry, bud. I wouldn't 'scarifice' myself. trof Apr 2012 #48
Lost cause. The military has been elevated beyond sacrosanct to become Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #32
BTW, I once flew 747's AND the Space Shuttle simultaneously PCIntern Apr 2012 #34
Welcome to ignore. 1620rock Apr 2012 #35
It's an honor, believe me. n/t PCIntern Apr 2012 #36
Well, that could have happened. There was a specially-built 747 designed to transport the space MADem Apr 2012 #52
The military are really good about lying and making shit up when they screw up quinnox Apr 2012 #37
I'm not even sure how this is related to your previous OP. Make7 Apr 2012 #38
Note the indeterminate nature of my positing... PCIntern Apr 2012 #40
Fact of the matter is.... whistler162 Apr 2012 #41
Amen. Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #45
You said the pilots were Republican nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #42
I believe that I said or inferred that PCIntern Apr 2012 #54
You are confusing mad with calling you on it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #55
The occupants of the apartment said publicly on camera they were not upset at the pilots Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #44
When I was taking instrument flying lessons Sherman A1 Apr 2012 #49
Cassandras always rub some people the wrong way. I found that out when I said 9/11 would be used DesertDiamond Apr 2012 #53
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