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2. They did? coulda fooled me.

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"How the left took over the Democratic Party" -- sez beltway hack [View all] nashville_brook Jul 2014 OP

Bingo. Dems talk about "change;" then seem to expect things DirkGently Jul 2014 #1

True. Dems need to be a clear alternative. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #7

but, the sad fact is it WILL beat the repubs IF the choice is Clinton v Anything nashville_brook Jul 2014 #17

Depends on how the stew cooks out. DirkGently Jul 2014 #26

we'll have a progressive-styled Clinton during primaries followed by a Centrist nashville_brook Jul 2014 #41

That would be the playbook. I think it's DirkGently Jul 2014 #43

maybe the incoherence in the article belies the fact that they know it's wearing thin nashville_brook Jul 2014 #52

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #51

+1 Scuba Jul 2014 #80

They did? coulda fooled me. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #2

+1 n/t n2doc Jul 2014 #3

yeah, that's what smacked me upside the head too --> also check this out nashville_brook Jul 2014 #10

Read the piece? DirkGently Jul 2014 #18

Can't help wondering if that's because the RW has managed to move the center so far right that Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #109

That is absolutely possible. DirkGently Jul 2014 #110

Yep. Just look at the fact that mild-mannered, centrist President Obama is considered Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #113

for some career Dem politicos, there's also something to be gained from nashville_brook Jul 2014 #120

Right. Most can't get elected without the financial support of special interests who want favors. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #122

the push for public funding of elections is one of the few issues that appeals across the board nashville_brook Jul 2014 #125

I hope so. But I fear that as soon as it begins to gain real traction, the Right will spend Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #126

Be a struggle, but money doesn't always win. DirkGently Jul 2014 #127

Yeah, the insidious, stealth propaganda truly is the aspect I fear most. The stuff no one notices, Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #131

+1 N/T Bonhomme Richard Jul 2014 #47

Me too. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #53

+100 HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #57

Fantasy TT_Progress Jul 2014 #79

Well, 2016 will tell that tale. The jury is still out. But, it sure gives one hope. nt silvershadow Jul 2014 #135

Excellent post. I'm all for progressives and populists taking over the Democratic Party. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #4

trying to follow his logic, i feel like he's split between nashville_brook Jul 2014 #25

I'll second that thought packman Jul 2014 #65

I wish. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #5

It's where all the energy is. Obama may have taken DirkGently Jul 2014 #14

I think Obama's race had a lot to do with the obstructionism from the other side, CrispyQ Jul 2014 #93

They haven't paid much for doing nothing but obstruct. DirkGently Jul 2014 #96

Their Base Will Believe ANYTHING the Tee Vee or the Preacherman Says AndyTiedye Jul 2014 #132

The path to long-term electoral victory... elzenmahn Jul 2014 #76

yep -- government small enough to drown in a bathtub -- Grover Norquist nashville_brook Jul 2014 #84

Must be a joke of some sort Doctor_J Jul 2014 #6

Did you actually read the whole post? scarletwoman Jul 2014 #12

i suck at subject lines :) nashville_brook Jul 2014 #21

Nah, using the title of the article was fine, especially since you used quotes. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #37

love it! wonder if i can still edit :) nashville_brook Jul 2014 #49

Yes, you can still edit. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #50

"the left lining up around a Clinton candidacy" enough Jul 2014 #8

Obama and Markos are considered lefties. betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #13

so here's the scariest part --> people listen to this guy nashville_brook Jul 2014 #15

Actually co-author with Matthew Dowd (advisor to Bush), not Maureen Dowd; and with Ron Fournier muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #9

he did co-author a book with Maureen Dowd -- maybe he ate a whole brownie too nashville_brook Jul 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #30

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! vi5 Jul 2014 #11

Isn't it amazing... elzenmahn Jul 2014 #77

i kinda wish i had originally read it with that in mind nashville_brook Jul 2014 #107

Most Excellent Post !!! - HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #16

thanks willyT! nashville_brook Jul 2014 #38

Anytime... nashville_brook, Anytime... WillyT Jul 2014 #40

Excellent deconstruction of Sosnik's idiotic argument about "small government"! scarletwoman Jul 2014 #19

honestly, i wouldn't want to shut them out of power, per se -- i'd rather have them nashville_brook Jul 2014 #23

I want them to get over themselves. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #27

it's such a poll-driven piece, but the analysis of the polling is disjointed and incoherent nashville_brook Jul 2014 #44

"democratic activists will need to reconcile the public’s desire for smaller government with their.. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2014 #20

first principle of marketing and advertising, and Steve Jobs was a messiah of it nashville_brook Jul 2014 #24

I hope the economic activists are successful... conservaphobe Jul 2014 #22

First we need an organized left nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #29

i believe the author is on the giving end of building progressive infrastructure nashville_brook Jul 2014 #33

It's about damned time. Bill Clinton was the best republican president ever, but round three at mother earth Jul 2014 #31

+ 1,000 cantbeserious Jul 2014 #63

^this^ L0oniX Jul 2014 #94

thank you ME nashville_brook Jul 2014 #103

I hear you, believe me, I'm sick to death of it too. We aren't freepville, but some days I wonder. mother earth Jul 2014 #134

+1 leftstreet Jul 2014 #119

We could only wish the left took over the Democratic party. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #32

yes! that is exactly where we're falling down. if both Dems and Repubs cater to Wall St., nashville_brook Jul 2014 #35

Wow I honestly get the take he's scared and nervous by motivated people that ARE indeed taking riseabove Jul 2014 #34

and it's a natural progression. it's actions of our party that have made many stand up and say... nashville_brook Jul 2014 #36

I hope this prediction is accurate. n/t Laelth Jul 2014 #39

President Obama describes himself as a 1980's Republican MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #42

it's the fear that 3rd Way funders have -- they're starting to see nashville_brook Jul 2014 #46

Yup. and if it is the bloodbath they fear Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #102

precisely. and they like scape their goats early, do they not? nashville_brook Jul 2014 #104

three points wyldwolf Jul 2014 #45

it's number 3 that i think is the most intractable nashville_brook Jul 2014 #48

Let's discuss wyldwolf Jul 2014 #56

valid points -- i was thinking more in the sense of compelling voters nashville_brook Jul 2014 #81

the Blue Dogs aren't fighting the last war--they're still surrendering to the Walking Dead GOP yurbud Jul 2014 #54

so long as one Republican is left alive anywhere, Blue Dogs will continue their tireless pursuit of yurbud Jul 2014 #55

"keeping that powder dry," "taking it off the table," = Triangulation nashville_brook Jul 2014 #58

I hated that "keep your powder dry" meme so much I wrote a poem about it: yurbud Jul 2014 #59

this is amazing and spot on -- the whole poem, but i love this line... nashville_brook Jul 2014 #86

thanks! And we have to die quickly before the GOP beats us to it. yurbud Jul 2014 #108

anyway to create instability. Phlem Jul 2014 #60

There was considerable teeth-knashing from the DLC/Blue Dogs when Obama supported marriage equality bluestateguy Jul 2014 #61

Fuck, don't i WISH! Scootaloo Jul 2014 #62

the rehabilitation of Reagan has to be coming from people who didn't live thru it nashville_brook Jul 2014 #67

I figure the opposite Scootaloo Jul 2014 #70

i'm nostalgic for the 80s too! nashville_brook Jul 2014 #74

Let me paraphrase something I said here about ten years ago Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #64

Yep. Full-on cognitive dissonance. DirkGently Jul 2014 #71

Activists change public perception; we don't chase it. calimary Jul 2014 #66

When I saw the headline . . . markpkessinger Jul 2014 #68

even more Onion-y, he claims there's currently no progressive vs "moderate" tension in the Dem party nashville_brook Jul 2014 #73

The Left took over the democratic party? workinclasszero Jul 2014 #69

I think it's more important to shrink ... JEFF9K Jul 2014 #72

"fraudcasting" -- love it! nashville_brook Jul 2014 #75

Excellent OP, nashville_brook! Thanks! nt Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #78

After Hillary's terms, Demographics will be such that any 'D' will win. That will be the time for stevenleser Jul 2014 #82

seems like that should be our post-Obama mantra? nashville_brook Jul 2014 #83

It would be if the demographics supported it. I am not sure they do. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #92

pffft L0oniX Jul 2014 #95

Doug Sosnik is a third rate hack. blackspade Jul 2014 #85

he hops from one foot to the other nashville_brook Jul 2014 #87

Exactly. blackspade Jul 2014 #88

But the "small gov't" rhetoric is just a successful lie. DirkGently Jul 2014 #89

+10000000000 (this post wins the thread) nashville_brook Jul 2014 #99

Agreed. blackspade Jul 2014 #111

it's an easy issue for us to take back. nashville_brook Jul 2014 #124

DO eet! n/t DirkGently Jul 2014 #133

So when is that happening? Looking forward to it! nt TBF Jul 2014 #90

i want some of what he's smoking. nashville_brook Jul 2014 #100

Thanks vor this insightful piece, Nashville. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #91

"motivated cognition" explains a LOT in his column… also, magical thinking. nashville_brook Jul 2014 #98

Seeking a rationale for why liberals can't win? DirkGently Jul 2014 #117

Whoever wrote this piece has no idea how small government works in local communities. Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #97

Awesome news. Socialized medicine is on the way! Orsino Jul 2014 #101

You, sir, are worth your weight in GOLD. closeupready Jul 2014 #105

aw shucks! nashville_brook Jul 2014 #106

Smaller govt, with better outcomes; cut big war 50%, expand social programs with half of that. grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #112

lots can be done without spending a cent -- regulate business to provide sick days, living wage nashville_brook Jul 2014 #121

Another Third Way acolyte, perhaps? "Former Clinton political director." UGH blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #114

He's clearly hucking for that wing of the party, anyway. DirkGently Jul 2014 #116

K&R. The Republican wing of the Democratic Party is losing. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #115

The powers that be are scared DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #118

i so totally agree that there's likely going to be a Charlie Crist-style "meh" for Clinton nashville_brook Jul 2014 #123

to be fair and honest DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #129

i was at the rally in nashville when he introduced lieberman -- felt like a punch in the gut n/t nashville_brook Jul 2014 #130

I hate it when fredamae Jul 2014 #128