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Jefferson23

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Sun Aug 3, 2014, 04:45 PM Aug 2014

Israel-Gaza conflict: What has Israel achieved in 26 bloody days? [View all]

World View: Hamas is stronger, the Jewish state looks shifty and heartless – and the world's eyes are on Gaza

As Gaza is devastated by a new paroxysm of violence, what has Israel achieved by its 26-day bombardment and ground intervention? The outcome so far is similar to that of past Israeli wars in Lebanon and Gaza: massive firepower is used to inflict heavy losses on the other side, the great majority of the casualties being civilians. But, as the war goes on, Israeli leaders find that Israel's military superiority is failing to produce comparable political gains.

Worse, from the Israeli point of view, it is the Palestinians and, in this case, Hamas, who are in a stronger position than they were a month ago. By its actions, Israel has put the Palestinian issue firmly back on the international agenda from which it had largely disappeared since the Arab uprisings of 2011. Only a few months ago, a friend sympathetic to the Palestinians lamented to me that, in his travels in the US, Europe and the Arab world, he had seldom heard the words "Palestine" or "Palestinians". Gaza, at horrendous cost to its people, has changed all that.

Usually, the sufferings of the four million Palestinians penned into Gaza and the West Bank are invisible to people in the rest of the world. But over the past month we have seen, night after night, pictures of Palestinian families, with their maimed and terrified children, vainly seeking safety amid shattered houses and hospitals. Israeli spokesmen sound shifty and heartless as they claim that there is no proof of Israel's culpability for the shelling of a UN hospital or a children's playground, suggesting that a Hamas rocket might have fallen short. These denials and evasions might work in a short war but, by the time 264 Palestinian children had been killed, as of Friday, they only serve to convince people that Israelis do not care how many Palestinians they kill.

Of course, we have been here many times before, the most notorious Israeli intervention being the invasion of Lebanon in 1982. I was in the Sabra and Shatila camps just after the massacre of 1,700 Palestinians by Christian militiamen who would not have been there but for Israeli actions. When I see pictures of the dead in Gaza, I feel I can still smell the sickly sweet stench of the dead bodies as they began to rot in the hot September sun. I remember the poverty of the dead, with their ragged clothes and plastic shoes, as they lay in the doorways of tiny shops or heaped up in alleyways. Out in the open, a donkey was lying dead between the shafts of a small cart carrying a barrel of water, and corpses were half-buried in a bank of sand, as if somebody had wanted to conceal them but had given up half-way through because there were too many bodies to bury.

in full: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israelgaza-conflict-what-has-israel-achieved-in-26-bloody-days-9644508.html
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As things get worse in Iraq and Syria hack89 Aug 2014 #1
Huh? I think Israel should be concerned that what may come to pass would make Hamas look Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #2
Hamas = ISIS hack89 Aug 2014 #4
No, they're not..please do your research. I can only suggest you do that. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #5
The Arab states are largely ignoring this conflict. former9thward Aug 2014 #10
Your comments are out of sync with my conversation with the other poster. Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #15
That is a weak, bullshit reply hack89 Aug 2014 #11
I don't have a high horse, I have access to information as you do. I gave you information Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #17
Time will tell hack89 Aug 2014 #20
I would not bet on that at all, but as you say, time will tell soon enough. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #23
I think Israel ought to be concerned about their actions being a spark for ISIS to build itself up. kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #3
ISIS needs no spark nt hack89 Aug 2014 #12
They are already doing that: bemildred Aug 2014 #22
Go tell that to the families of the 1,600 dead malaise Aug 2014 #6
And to the families of the many more who will die Bettie Aug 2014 #7
We certainly need to remind the appropriately named ubiquitous poster malaise Aug 2014 #8
You are a powerless nobody hack89 Aug 2014 #13
No I'm on the side of human rights malaise Aug 2014 #14
If that makes you feel special than good for you hack89 Aug 2014 #18
I don't take positions to feel good malaise Aug 2014 #19
Right. Got it. nt hack89 Aug 2014 #21
Hamas is stronger? oberliner Aug 2014 #9
Israel is it's own worst enemy. 4now Aug 2014 #16
I think it's because they live in the real world COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #24
Almost as demoralizing as the constant threat of massive airstrikes and land invasion Orrex Aug 2014 #25
Nothing in the fact that they have superior military might COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #26
Paletstine should have had the good sense not to be forcibly occupied for decades Orrex Aug 2014 #27
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