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Laelth

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Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:46 AM Aug 2014

Who will help the Kurds? [View all]

Now that President Obama has launched a program of humanitarian aid for the Kurds and has authorized limited offensive air strikes against IS, DU has erupted in debate along very familiar lines. Some support the President's decision and the course of action he is taking. Others abhor his decision to risk involving the United States in yet another war in the Middle East.

A recent DU thread asks whether we are "ready" for another war in the Middle East, and I think it's author is right to caution us that "limited" assistance to the Kurds could very well spiral into full-scale war (as we learned from Vietnam). That's a very real risk, and well-meaning people on DU are worried about that prospect. Some of them argue (in typically isolationist terms) that the Kurds are not our problem. Some even go so far as to argue that the Middle East is not our problem (even though they know that Japan, for example, which has practically no oil reserves of its own, gets most of its oil from the Middle East).

This isolationist/pacifist bent among my well-meaning peers at DU is what prompted this thread. To those people who rightly fear another pointless war I ask, who will help the Kurds (who are being attacked, brutally, by IS)? One person suggested that Turkey should help. Iran, which also has a substantial Kurdish population could help, if they were so inclined. The point of this thread is to suggest that nobody wants to help the Kurds. If the United States doesn't do it, nobody will.

Consider the following map:



The Turks do not want an independent Kurdistan. They're probably secretly pleased that IS is attacking the Kurds and forestalling their ambition to establish an independent state. The Turks, for their part, are intent upon keeping their Kurds and their Kurd-inhabited lands (which are rich in mineral resources). It's unlikely that the Turks will help the Kurds, and Turkey is a NATO ally, so we have to consider their interests very carefully whenever we make decisions that impact the region.

The Iranians do not want an independent Kurdistan. As such, they are unlikely to aid the Kurds and are, most likely, secretly pleased that IS is attacking the Kurds. Iran doesn't want to lose territory to an independent Kurdistan, so they are unlikely to aid the Kurds in their fight against IS.

As such, it appears to me that the only state on Earth that has both the power and the will to aid the Kurds is the United States. President Obama agreed to provide humanitarian aid and limited military strikes for this reason. We created this mess in Iraq with a disastrous decision to go to war in 2003. The people of Iraq were much better off under Saddam Hussein, as most sane people can see in retrospect, but because we created this mess, I feel we have a continuing duty to ameliorate the damage that we caused, and that's what I think the President is doing now.

Will this action lead us to full-scale war? Perhaps. Note that ISIS (The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) no longer exists. Neither does ISIL (The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant). They have both been superseded by IS (The Islamic State) led by a Caliph to whom, supposedly, all Muslims owe allegiance. IS is an existential threat to peace and security throughout the Muslim world. We will have to deal with them sooner or later. For the time being, however, President Obama has decided to aid the Kurds--quite specifically and in a very limited way. Because no other nation has the ability and the willingness to do so, I think he made the right call. Personally, I'd rather deal with IS now, in its infancy, before it grows into a greater menace.

For the time being, however, I ask DU this question: if we don't help the Kurds, who will? Perhaps nobody, and this is a key factor that President Obama considered in making the decision to engage, once again, in this volatile region.

-Laelth



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Who will help the Kurds? [View all] Laelth Aug 2014 OP
Probably not so much the same people who broke Iraq but those janitors who clean up the mess. gordianot Aug 2014 #1
IS is still weak. Laelth Aug 2014 #3
ask yourself this question and answer honestly please. politicman Aug 2014 #2
I don't care which President authorized it, IronGate Aug 2014 #4
I hear you. Laelth Aug 2014 #5
thanks for your respectful answer, and heres my response. politicman Aug 2014 #8
What is the history of the Kurds that seems to end up in their being in trouble with everyone? jwirr Aug 2014 #6
They have a very interesting history, in fact. Laelth Aug 2014 #7
Agreed. I just worry that we will be there another 13 years. Also asked the question because I jwirr Aug 2014 #9
Saddam Hussein gassed them because they wanted independence. Laelth Aug 2014 #11
I am glad I asked. I now understand a lot more of what is going on. Feeling very sorry for the Kurds jwirr Aug 2014 #16
It appears that there are about 4 million Kurds in Iraq. Laelth Aug 2014 #17
Thank you. I am hoping for the best for them. These wars and the hate our world seems to jwirr Aug 2014 #18
At this point it's a low cost experiment to see if flamingdem Aug 2014 #10
No doubt. Laelth Aug 2014 #12
Who Else, Besides Americans, Are Flying Fighter Jets in Iraq? bigtree Aug 2014 #13
Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Iraq are all rightly afraid of IS. Laelth Aug 2014 #14
the US and other nations are stepping up their humanitarian aid bigtree Aug 2014 #15
I want to thank you for this excellent thread Jim Beard Aug 2014 #19
You are quite welcome. Laelth Aug 2014 #20
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