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What Drives Most Prostitution is Men. [View all] MineralMan Aug 2014 OP

I do not believe it will go away Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #1

People keep repeating this as though it's true mythology Aug 2014 #6

Did global human trafficking go up, or did human traffickers go to Germany instead of elsewhere? anti partisan Aug 2014 #8

Do you really believe that open up large markets for trafficked people will not increase the Squinch Aug 2014 #26

Yes I am OK with trafficking going up in one country if it decreases more in others anti partisan Aug 2014 #36

And what in god's name makes you think that if you open up the US for trafficking, trafficking will Squinch Aug 2014 #60

It says so much about the left that this industry is treated so differently. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #65

I just can't believe the stuff I am reading! They all just pulled the idea out of the air that Squinch Aug 2014 #70

I agree. redqueen Aug 2014 #81

because knuckleheaded proponents have made it into a "Hip vs. Prude" argument Scootaloo Aug 2014 #116

+100! MineralMan Aug 2014 #119

Great point indivisibleman Aug 2014 #125

Great point! Its happened to me here several times. 7962 Aug 2014 #133

Truth is, I don't know anti partisan Aug 2014 #142

And you are just A-OK with increasing trafficking in the US because of this bullshit strawman Squinch Aug 2014 #144

I never said that anti partisan Aug 2014 #168

"...best judgments based on actual research which is applicable to the discussion..." chervilant Aug 2014 #121

Why would that be Okay? Trafficking is trafficking is trafficking. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #160

It's not OK, but when presented with the choices of A) less trafficking and B) more trafficking anti partisan Aug 2014 #169

I'm assuming you mean well but whatever argument you're making is not well articulated. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #170

Up in Germany ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #32

Never Used One liberalmike27 Aug 2014 #92

Yet another fallacious argument, mike... chervilant Aug 2014 #135

So, forced prostitution should be illegal. rickford66 Aug 2014 #157

So, you think it's harmless to pay for sex? chervilant Aug 2014 #165

I said "unforced" rickford66 Aug 2014 #166

This red herring continues to reek... chervilant Aug 2014 #171

I used to believe that legalizing/regulating prostitution was the answer A Little Weird Aug 2014 #17

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Really? A Little Weird Aug 2014 #54

It won't, because the demand is a result of biology, not culture. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #68

I coulddn't agree more jamzrockz Aug 2014 #111

Sorry, you're wrong. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #153

And there's these bullshit arguments Scootaloo Aug 2014 #123

The Europe comparisons are not reasonable, here's why: elehhhhna Aug 2014 #130

Once adults reach the age of majority they have agency. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #2

But - the demand is for a young looking woman, which often translates hedgehog Aug 2014 #25

If a adult man or woman wants to buy sex with young as in < 18 persons DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #33

ditto. It takes two to tango. nilram Aug 2014 #141

I don't think anybody should be coerced into anything. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #143

It amazes me there is anyone willing to risk their health like that treestar Aug 2014 #3

Agree! It just seems so incredibly risky. I think there are something like about 25 STDs now. I RKP5637 Aug 2014 #7

That's exactly it treestar Aug 2014 #154

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The joke is they're not paying to get a woman. jeff47 Aug 2014 #35

Nice satire taught_me_patience Aug 2014 #4

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Replace "drugs" for "prostitution" and re-read taught_me_patience Aug 2014 #12

Hence the world's oldest profession Zambero Aug 2014 #39

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Not satire. I do post satire sometimes, MineralMan Aug 2014 #15

"Some men apparently believe that they must have sex with some other person." rug Aug 2014 #5

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Most women who are prostitutes are not doing that on a MineralMan Aug 2014 #24

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I specifically said "other people" rather than "women" in my OP. MineralMan Aug 2014 #47

Lots of people are "coerced" into crappy jobs out of economic necessity. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #51

Not all of those jobs carry the risk of them ending up with PTSD. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #66

Then we should outlaw jobs like the police and military where the incidence of PTSD DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #72

That you rank the entitled attitude of men to have whatever kind of sex they wish alongside redqueen Aug 2014 #79

I didn't denigrate the service of these brave men and women DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #85

What are you even talking about? I didn't denigrate them, I lambasted your idea redqueen Aug 2014 #95

You implied that sex workers suffer the same incidence as do soldiers and policemen and policewomen. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #98

No I didn't. You inferred that on your own. And your sickening comparison stands. redqueen Aug 2014 #109

Your ad hominem is showing but I digress. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #118

Do you know what "ad hominem" means? redqueen Aug 2014 #137

Yes I know what an ad hominem attack is... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #138

Are you seriously equating police and military PTSD ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #88

I actually lived in the same home with someone who served in Korea and Viet Nam DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #91

I'm actually an RN ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #101

My dad was a WW ll Vet. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #112

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You consider it a privilege to have sex with strangers for money? MineralMan Aug 2014 #105

Most people who work are not doing that on a DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #42

That is not the logical extension of my argument at all. MineralMan Aug 2014 #80

It is NOT a black and white issue. safeinOhio Aug 2014 #9

Yeah because making the punishment more severe has stopped every other crime davidn3600 Aug 2014 #11

Don't give the OP any ideas DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #13

If this isn't satire... 99Forever Aug 2014 #16

My satirical posts all are sourced at: MineralMan Aug 2014 #19

Well then... 99Forever Aug 2014 #43

From what I understand, edhopper Aug 2014 #18

I see...nt MineralMan Aug 2014 #20

Really, edhopper Aug 2014 #28

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Content of this reply is deleted. MineralMan Aug 2014 #59

Do you really believe this? ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #94

I think there is some truth to this. delta17 Aug 2014 #134

iI have read this from legitimate sources edhopper Aug 2014 #172

What drives most sports leagues are men... brooklynite Aug 2014 #21

That's already illegal and it hasn't removed the demand. Iggo Aug 2014 #22

Exactly. And law enforcement uses decoys disguised as buyers and sellers of sex to ensnare offenders DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #27

The demand will disappear?? mokawanis Aug 2014 #23

We should outlaw the exchange of currency for ANY business transaction Orrex Aug 2014 #29

I think the best deterrent is to publish names. hedgehog Aug 2014 #30

Why does it matter to you if two consulting adults consent in acts that are none of your concern? Shoulders of Giants Aug 2014 #151

Or get Biggie Shorty to smack them around betsuni Aug 2014 #158

Really? You think copying the drug war would lead to success? jeff47 Aug 2014 #31

Prior to Lawrence V TX there was a man in a GA prison for performing oral sex on his wife. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #37

SEX Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #38

I have this CRAZY mixed up idea that consenting adults should be free to do what they want to do Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #40

Disclaimer: this is an internet poll. PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #44

The solution to all our problems: Build more prisons and put people in them The Straight Story Aug 2014 #46

America....Land of the Free!!! davidn3600 Aug 2014 #50

Why women? ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #53

A fair point The Straight Story Aug 2014 #61

There's a lot more coercive sex in the hoosegow than there is on the outside. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #57

Demand. We already know supply side economics is bogus. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #49

That is true, of course. MineralMan Aug 2014 #52

So you think you can stamp out the world's oldest profession with modestly harsher punishments? tritsofme Aug 2014 #55

The "world oldest profession" ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #64

+1 LiberalLoner Aug 2014 #107

There are parts of the world where the penalty for unmarried sex, paid or otherwise, is death. LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #56

I'd argue but I can't help worrying that your humor is flying over my head. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2014 #62

No humor is intended. So argue away, if you like. MineralMan Aug 2014 #63

Should it be a felony ? Should the three strike law apply? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #69

I'd say it depends. I'd be fine with paying for an underaged prostitute MineralMan Aug 2014 #74

Paying for sex with an underage prostitute is already legally and culturally prohibited DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #77

And yet, you can find an underaged prostitute in any sizable city. MineralMan Aug 2014 #89

Engaging in sex with a minor is a felony and rightfully so. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #96

Most prostitutes actually don't have agency over themselves. MineralMan Aug 2014 #97

That's against the law, too... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #100

Again, very simply, demand drives this. MineralMan Aug 2014 #102

How is your campaign to criminalize prostitution DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #115

Uff da! I believe we are having two different conversations here. MineralMan Aug 2014 #117

In both instances, the prohibitionists profess to know what is best for other people. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #124

Not at all. It is not just one body that is involved with MineralMan Aug 2014 #127

Unless you are talking about RU486 there are two people involved. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #129

Prostitution is known as "the oldest profession"... ljm2002 Aug 2014 #67

"Personally, I cannot even imagine what possible benefit I could get from paying for sex." Silent3 Aug 2014 #71

how tiresome The Second Stone Aug 2014 #73

Sorry to bore you. MineralMan Aug 2014 #75

You want to throw consenting adults into prison because you don't like what they're doing? Iron Man Aug 2014 #76

No, I do not think you read it right. MineralMan Aug 2014 #82

I think I did. Iron Man Aug 2014 #113

Consensual is the key word, Iron Man. MineralMan Aug 2014 #114

When it is regulated, yes it is consentual. Iron Man Aug 2014 #132

Some men must have sex MyNameGoesHere Aug 2014 #78

I did not say that, did I? MineralMan Aug 2014 #84

You don't consider circumcision to be genital mutilation?????? dickthegrouch Aug 2014 #120

I don't consider circumcision to be genital mutilation, no. MineralMan Aug 2014 #126

No I said it. MyNameGoesHere Aug 2014 #136

Interesting idea. Perhaps this approach could hughee99 Aug 2014 #83

Some drugs are legal and others are illegal. MineralMan Aug 2014 #86

I have worked as an 'escort'. You want to throw my clients into jail for paying me mwrguy Aug 2014 #87

Just legalize it for goodness sake 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #90

Yes. See Amsterdam. MineralMan Aug 2014 #93

What Amsterdam is doing is tweaking its regulations. former9thward Aug 2014 #99

+100! n/t 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #147

I agree, and I wish it was true, but it is the 'world's oldest profession.' joanbarnes Aug 2014 #104

Everyone keeps saying that. I'm not sure it's true, though. MineralMan Aug 2014 #106

I'm sure it's not true betsuni Aug 2014 #161

Honest question: Why would this drive demand down? LostInAnomie Aug 2014 #108

It is illegal, but not particularly risky. MineralMan Aug 2014 #110

I can't believe somebody wants to make it a felony, mind you, not a misdemeanor DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #173

Do agencies such as Emperors Club VIP antiquie Aug 2014 #122

I don't know the answer to that question. If you do, you could MineralMan Aug 2014 #128

It is a famous agency for high-price, high-class call girls. antiquie Aug 2014 #131

I pretty much agree with you indivisibleman Aug 2014 #139

The only thing I have against it is that it very often is slavery, criminal human exploitation. Quantess Aug 2014 #140

The demand for prostitution will never go away pfitz59 Aug 2014 #145

Prostitution has existed throughout human history. hifiguy Aug 2014 #146

Money is not part of human biology. There might be some truth to a claim that hedgehog Aug 2014 #148

I believe in "legalize, tax and regulate" for alcohol, drugs and prostitution (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #149

Please don't ever refer to yourself as "pro choice" Shoulders of Giants Aug 2014 #150

Really? It's fascinating that you found some post of MineralMan Aug 2014 #159

It took 30 seconds to find that post with a simple google search. Shoulders of Giants Aug 2014 #162

The post you linked was about reproductive rights, MineralMan Aug 2014 #163

So you are selective about where you think the government should stick its nose in private business Shoulders of Giants Aug 2014 #164

Yes, your mistake. MineralMan Aug 2014 #167

Truly a Man-made dilemma, as is misogyny . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #152

people need to mind their own business. this is fucking amazing.... bowens43 Aug 2014 #155

Well actually it's either desperate or lazy women in a comination with men. You can't have customers craigmatic Aug 2014 #156