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DonCoquixote

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27. A reality Hillary's cult will not accept

Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:10 AM

Aug 2014

Especially as they are in part, responsible for this sad state of affairs. What Bill and Hill do not realize is that when they dragged the party to the right, they made it safer for the GOP to openly welcome and support people that would have been complete outcasts in the 90's. Does anybody think Ted Cruz would have been elected then, or that the Tea Party would pick off people like Cantor because they were not right wing enough?

Of course, this is where the Telecommuncations act bears fruit. The Media has become a mess, with MSNBC, the farthest point left, supprting cranks like Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews. Let's not even mention Fox news, which that telecom act would have never allowed to exist.

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Hillary should forget about reviving the DLC playbook- the RW will *never* accept her [View all] friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 OP

She Is Untrustworthy cantbeserious Aug 2014 #1

She is more trustworthy than Mitt Romney- not like that's any achievement friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #3

Oh please wait, we haven't finished "shit" and "shitier" in the midterms. TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #52

She is just after a portion of them known formally as neocons betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #2

Some of us voted for Obama DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #4

Hillary and Mitt Romney are both high-functioning narcissists... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #6

No he hasn't.. She would have no need to be trashing him much now if he Cha Aug 2014 #13

Agreed. Mutiny In Heaven Aug 2014 #26

The fact is most voters are in the middle, and they decide presidential elections BainsBane Aug 2014 #5

I think that is highly unlikely. n/t betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #8

You think what unlikely? BainsBane Aug 2014 #9

I support a vigorous challenge from the left, and hope Liz Warren runs friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #11

The fact is the position on guns you support BainsBane Aug 2014 #32

Gun control isn't a left wing issue. It's an urban issue. Rural liberals oppose more gun control. w4rma Aug 2014 #40

The voters might be in the middle but the parties are on the right Scootaloo Aug 2014 #15

I suspect voters are biased in their perceptions of their political position HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #21

Sort of like how most people in the nation believe they're "Middle class" Scootaloo Aug 2014 #22

Yes. Perception isn't reality, but perception influences opinion surveys HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #23

Your last sentence BainsBane Aug 2014 #33

Hillary has been a fine and dedicated servant of capital, and has profited accordingly friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #38

That is some twisted justification BainsBane Aug 2014 #56

I refuse to give a dedicated corporatist and war hawk a pass because "she's one of us" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #57

oh really? DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #24

Just some observations about posts I've seen BainsBane Aug 2014 #31

The old 'you're all dirty hippies' charge that comes NOW both from the far Right, AND from the Third sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #44

+1000 Thanks for that. LuvNewcastle Aug 2014 #46

Well said. Support for gun control is NOT a marker for progressivism... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #47

You are so right. The 'only reason neocons express any support for Second Amendment sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #48

And a big chunk of us on the left were pushed to support John Edwards, instead of Obama or Hillary.. cascadiance Aug 2014 #34

Hillary should retire. obxhead Aug 2014 #7

Si. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #10

Agree Completely cantbeserious Aug 2014 #12

They certainly rejected Obama AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #14

Ya....maybe we'll finally get that obliteration of Iran Hillary has been clamoring for Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #16

Is that the best you can do? AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #17

is this the best you can do? DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #18

believe this DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #19

I would argue Obama did far better under tougher times karynnj Aug 2014 #25

A reality Hillary's cult will not accept DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #27

GOP Lucy kept pulling away the football AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #35

I suggest you compare what Bill Clinton got vs what Obama got karynnj Aug 2014 #36

Of course they did a better job, they did everything the GOP wanted tularetom Aug 2014 #30

She does not need the RW doxydad Aug 2014 #20

There's not enough moderate women AND men to elect her. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #28

"And what's left of the Left doesn't trust her any further than they can throw her " NCTraveler Aug 2014 #29

As if they'll just ignore her corporate ties and what she said about Iraq? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #37

Who are "they". NCTraveler Aug 2014 #42

"I am a part of the left..". If that's true, work on persuading Liz Warren to run friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #45

I don't trust war-mongers of any party. I don't think anyone should ever totally trust any sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #49

Funny thing -- the RW never accepted Bill Clinton either...he still got elected. brooklynite Aug 2014 #39

Different time. Different electorate. betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #41

The DLC changed its name after alienating so many Democrats with their 'centrist' policies. They sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #50

Find me a cite that says Third Way supports any of those. brooklynite Aug 2014 #54

Wall Street Uses Third Way to Lead Its Assault on Social Security w4rma Aug 2014 #55

Like Richard Mellon Scaife would never accept Bill? Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2014 #43

Reviving the DLC playbook her and hubby created??? come on.... TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #51

the left needs to tack left. pull the rite along w/ them. pansypoo53219 Aug 2014 #53