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In reply to the discussion: Hillary should forget about reviving the DLC playbook- the RW will *never* accept her [View all]BainsBane
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Many of the African American posters agree there is some correlation between those who most resent posts about feminism and racism and the ones who are most hostile to the president and the Democratic party. Many are people who believe the pinnacle of civilization was the 1960s. and some have openly said society has only deteriorated since then. That they call themselves leftists does not mean they are. They buy into to the American mythology, long for some ideal past when they had "real democracy" and don't concern themselves with the fact the majority of Americans were excluded from that democracy.
You yourself have encountered such people because I've seen you post threads expressing frustration at their exclusionary views.
The fact everyone on this site thinks themselves more leftist that those they disagree with. I myself don't happen to see how a view of the body politic that excludes a majority of the population can be considered left. In that sense the terms are meaningless. I don't see the point of OPs that talk only about left and centrist because they don't even think to identity what they mean by that. People whose primary issue--pro2A--is a solidly Republican position will declare that the true left simply because it's what they care about. The terms are contested, here more than anywhere, so their meaning is not self-evident. Some simply can't hold in their head that different people have different understanding of what left means and can't imagine that they, as opposed to those they disagree with, embody the true left.
In the real world, the electorate that decides elections are swing voters, people who will vote Republican one cycle and Democrat the next. Dixie is solidly Republican, so I seriously doubt Clinton is going to spend much time trying to sway them. She will try to sway the non-aligned electorate in swing states. That makes her dog shit as far as people here are concerned, but that has anything to do with political reality.