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morningfog

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4. Obama has lost all credibility on his Iraq policy, whatever it is.

Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:49 PM

Aug 2014

Out of one side of his mouth he pledges no return of combat troops to Iraq. Out of the front of his mouth, he orders about 900 troops into Iraq (who are helping the pilots find targets) and 5 days and counting of bombings (by US pilots) still saying that no combat troops are returning to Iraq. Bull fucking shit. And, then he has the audacity to take offense when it is pointed out that he touted the removal of troops as a success and now is trying to say it wasn't his decision. It's true, it wasn't his decision because the US couldn't get Iraq to agree to immunity for our troops, and for damn good reason.

He wants it three ways. He has started down a foolish path with no successful exit. This will become the linchpin of the republican nominee's campaign. It is no wonder Hillary is jumped around wanting to excoriate herself from this debacle.

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130 More U.S. Troops to Iraq...There's Always Going to be an Excuse - This is Classic [View all] bigtree Aug 2014 OP

In my view, he's either a fool, a tool, or so lost inside the beltway, he can't see reality. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #1

look at the photo I posted in the op of him from today bigtree Aug 2014 #5

He's got himself surrounded by all the wrong people. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #7

Bush holdovers bigtree Aug 2014 #17

Regrettably, It Is All About The Oil cantbeserious Aug 2014 #2

It's Incremental...and we have to see if Obama "holds firm" against Hillary's attacks from the Right KoKo Aug 2014 #3

when our organizing principle is 'trust' the president, instead of organizing around our values bigtree Aug 2014 #6

He needs to have a confab with John Lewis, & Bernie Sanders. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #9

Obama has lost all credibility on his Iraq policy, whatever it is. morningfog Aug 2014 #4

Kerry making a speech 15 hours ago claiming no more troops to Iraq bigtree Aug 2014 #10

I was actually grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #18

No more troops. No more money. bigwillq Aug 2014 #8

take to the streets bigtree Aug 2014 #14

I think we are committed to defending the Kurds Vattel Aug 2014 #11

did they not conflate ISIS/ISIL with al-Qaeda at the very beginning of direct action? bigtree Aug 2014 #13

I agree with you that we have a variety of "interests" in the Kurdish part of northern Iraq. Vattel Aug 2014 #15

power doesn't concede voluntarily bigtree Aug 2014 #16

Halliburton HQ in Erbil. grasswire Aug 2014 #30

supporting oil interests bigtree Aug 2014 #32

It was a disaster to believe we could just set up military bases where ever we want. Rex Aug 2014 #12

» bigtree Aug 2014 #19

Oh fer chrissakes....130 men? That's hardly an escalation. msanthrope Aug 2014 #20

That's how it starts. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #21

I get that's your opinion bigtree Aug 2014 #22

I agree with zero troops. ISIS hasn't signed on to the plan, though. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #23

ISIS is just the latest incarnation of resistance to our nation's military meddling in Iraq bigtree Aug 2014 #24

I think the "Blame America First" approach is counterproductive. msanthrope Aug 2014 #25

well, I heard that Blame-America-First retort all through the Bush-era militarism bigtree Aug 2014 #28

Well...they attacked our ships in the Gulf of Tonk....they have WMD...Remember the Maine..or Alamo! Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #26

Obama sends 130 Marines and special forces to Iraq Baclava Aug 2014 #27

our special forces will actually be hovering several inches above the ground bigtree Aug 2014 #29

Bigtree, thank you for your service to country in speaking truth to power. grasswire Aug 2014 #31

thanks, grasswire bigtree Aug 2014 #33

Marines have evacuated innocents in the middle of a civil war only about 1000 times before this. ieoeja Aug 2014 #34