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10. Kerry making a speech 15 hours ago claiming no more troops to Iraq
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:40 PM
Aug 2014

. . . hours later, there we are, sending in more troops.

But don't worry, they're only 'advisers' and 'temporary.'

But, hey, don't speak up here, lest you be accused of being a republican or wanting Obama impeached, or wanting Democrats to lose in the midterms . . . on and on.

I have a solid record of opposing this kind of military activity; a solid fucking record. I came to DU in 2003 because there was a solid bloc of members here opposed to war in Iraq. I spent many sleepless days working my regular job at night and reading and writing for hours on end by day when I needed to rest.

Now there are these surrogates who can't find any more principle than defending the political establishment, hurling insults at those with values enough to oppose U.S. military intervention, no matter what the politics dictates.

Thousands of people in the streets when an Iraq invasion and occupation was just a twinkle in Bush's eye. Now you can't get a quorum to even talk about it, save to lecture us that the politicians know best . . .and they wonder why I turn away from the politics; why I reject it as an organizing principle. Ridicule, blind faith, and then outright indifference. This isn't what I found when I stumbled into this site over a decade ago . . .

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In my view, he's either a fool, a tool, or so lost inside the beltway, he can't see reality. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #1
look at the photo I posted in the op of him from today bigtree Aug 2014 #5
He's got himself surrounded by all the wrong people. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #7
Bush holdovers bigtree Aug 2014 #17
Regrettably, It Is All About The Oil cantbeserious Aug 2014 #2
It's Incremental...and we have to see if Obama "holds firm" against Hillary's attacks from the Right KoKo Aug 2014 #3
when our organizing principle is 'trust' the president, instead of organizing around our values bigtree Aug 2014 #6
He needs to have a confab with John Lewis, & Bernie Sanders. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #9
Obama has lost all credibility on his Iraq policy, whatever it is. morningfog Aug 2014 #4
Kerry making a speech 15 hours ago claiming no more troops to Iraq bigtree Aug 2014 #10
I was actually grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #18
No more troops. No more money. bigwillq Aug 2014 #8
take to the streets bigtree Aug 2014 #14
I think we are committed to defending the Kurds Vattel Aug 2014 #11
did they not conflate ISIS/ISIL with al-Qaeda at the very beginning of direct action? bigtree Aug 2014 #13
I agree with you that we have a variety of "interests" in the Kurdish part of northern Iraq. Vattel Aug 2014 #15
power doesn't concede voluntarily bigtree Aug 2014 #16
Halliburton HQ in Erbil. grasswire Aug 2014 #30
supporting oil interests bigtree Aug 2014 #32
It was a disaster to believe we could just set up military bases where ever we want. Rex Aug 2014 #12
» bigtree Aug 2014 #19
Oh fer chrissakes....130 men? That's hardly an escalation. msanthrope Aug 2014 #20
That's how it starts. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #21
I get that's your opinion bigtree Aug 2014 #22
I agree with zero troops. ISIS hasn't signed on to the plan, though. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #23
ISIS is just the latest incarnation of resistance to our nation's military meddling in Iraq bigtree Aug 2014 #24
I think the "Blame America First" approach is counterproductive. msanthrope Aug 2014 #25
well, I heard that Blame-America-First retort all through the Bush-era militarism bigtree Aug 2014 #28
Well...they attacked our ships in the Gulf of Tonk....they have WMD...Remember the Maine..or Alamo! Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #26
Obama sends 130 Marines and special forces to Iraq Baclava Aug 2014 #27
our special forces will actually be hovering several inches above the ground bigtree Aug 2014 #29
Bigtree, thank you for your service to country in speaking truth to power. grasswire Aug 2014 #31
thanks, grasswire bigtree Aug 2014 #33
Marines have evacuated innocents in the middle of a civil war only about 1000 times before this. ieoeja Aug 2014 #34
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