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bhikkhu

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50. Liberal, to me, means we believe people are basically good

Wed Aug 20, 2014, 12:01 AM

Aug 2014

which makes it problematic to advocate torturing them to death. I'd be more in favor of something like the Nuremburg trials, and there are means to make that happen, at some point. The leaders set the course, and those that row the boat have varying levels of commitment, guilt, and ability to reform.

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I wish we could kill every breathing fucking member of ISIS..... [View all] trumad Aug 2014 OP

Huh. That's exactly their thinking. Just about a different group. jtuck004 Aug 2014 #1

Difference is... trumad Aug 2014 #4

Why not atreides1 Aug 2014 #5

tonight I could give a rats ass about liberal claptrap trumad Aug 2014 #9

That is an odd thing to say on a liberal board. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #13

I don't know...what do you think.. trumad Aug 2014 #21

You want to kill them for their deadly intolerance. Loudly Aug 2014 #29

not bobduca Aug 2014 #54

And even stranger than that, those of us who understand the source truedelphi Aug 2014 #40

No it's not. who defines "liberal" Gman Aug 2014 #43

I was not even referring to the ISIS part of the comment but the 'liberal claptrap' Live and Learn Aug 2014 #47

Making them dead is fine. Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #77

Killing is not a legitimate policy goal IMO. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #79

existence is an endless cycle of violence Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #83

Well, killing others won't help mitigate the cycle at all. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #86

Violence is sometimes the only language people understand. sir pball Aug 2014 #120

+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2014 #149

sadly, i feel the same way shireen Aug 2014 #150

Liberal, to me, means we believe people are basically good bhikkhu Aug 2014 #50

I'm sorry. BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #52

Any other subhumans you want to eradicate? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #80

Liberal, to me, also means being unable to think about people that way bhikkhu Aug 2014 #85

Very well said. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #87

Yes. eom GCP Aug 2014 #88

Tortured to death? Really? delete_bush Aug 2014 #57

+1 NealK Aug 2014 #71

"Could you live with yourself after doing so?" Depaysement Aug 2014 #73

Thank you. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #126

I disagree about the torture Dorian Gray Aug 2014 #97

Torturing is too extreme, granted Gman Aug 2014 #100

Sure atreides1 Aug 2014 #104

YES!!! get the red out Aug 2014 #130

Well the dictionary for one defines a liberal. Rex Aug 2014 #144

Claptrap... delete_bush Aug 2014 #62

Liberal claptrap? MineralMan Aug 2014 #101

You really think that anger is all that's driving ISIS? randome Aug 2014 #102

Lots of hot air from countries who haven't yet, even though they have tried for years. jtuck004 Aug 2014 #6

Our Righteous is Their Stay of Execution sub.theory Aug 2014 #12

Mission Accomplished, eh? What utter bs. But feel free to sit on that white horse and jtuck004 Aug 2014 #16

Bye sub.theory Aug 2014 #18

Then sign up for a tour. Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #34

You didn't hear the warnings? NealK Aug 2014 #72

"Demonic legion"? "Dark master"? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #81

Stone age barbarians, which is what ISIS are hifiguy Aug 2014 #107

Is sad, the lack of ability to understand the irony in that sentence. jtuck004 Aug 2014 #137

I am in the same camp as trumad on this issue. hifiguy Aug 2014 #141

An Army of The Damned sub.theory Aug 2014 #2

I read that some of them are on meth flamingdem Aug 2014 #3

WW2 Nazis were on drugs, too. They called it 'krank.' freshwest Aug 2014 #93

The Americans and British did the same thing. former9thward Aug 2014 #105

They have to be... completely sick and depraved. GreenEyedLefty Aug 2014 #14

It's really amazing! kentuck Aug 2014 #7

Where are they getting all of these numbers from??? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #56

+1 Depaysement Aug 2014 #75

Well that's nice. bluesbassman Aug 2014 #8

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Gee, where have I heard that sort of thing before…? regnaD kciN Aug 2014 #15

Well you're hearing from trumad. ... trumad Aug 2014 #20

I've also been here since 2001 GCP Aug 2014 #89

OK, but - and I am only saying this because I care... bluesbassman Aug 2014 #19

Could be cable news overload too BainsBane Aug 2014 #27

Good grief, I never expected that from trumad. But now he can't answer you. freshwest Aug 2014 #91

Did ISIS post a fresh batch of decapitation pictures maybe? redqueen Aug 2014 #112

IDK, but what they did to the little girls and women already would be enough to push a dad over the freshwest Aug 2014 #121

And there will be more atrocities. redqueen Aug 2014 #125

They are proud of the world order they want to create, as Europeans were of slaughtering NA's. freshwest Aug 2014 #136

Outstanding post. redqueen Aug 2014 #138

I do tend to remember things I care about deeply, like most. Adding to my Journal for your rec. freshwest Aug 2014 #139

You might want to remove the various agents, plants, paid informants first. gordianot Aug 2014 #11

I believe the final chapter for most ISIS members will not end well. Throd Aug 2014 #17

Well, they do have a defined benefits pension... Thor_MN Aug 2014 #49

They don't need to wait for the next life. They're enjoying raping and pillaging now. freshwest Aug 2014 #147

Agree! n/t KT2000 Aug 2014 #22

I felt the same way when I saw the news. (nt) sunnystarr Aug 2014 #23

I think the world would be better off if they were dead. Martin Eden Aug 2014 #24

There's no saving these monsters sub.theory Aug 2014 #25

I didn't say they could be saved. Martin Eden Aug 2014 #37

It is indeed sad the conditions of Iraq today sub.theory Aug 2014 #38

"I don't know how to resolve the situation at this point" Martin Eden Aug 2014 #39

I wish we as a nation would prosecute the people who started the Iraq war. Boxerfan Aug 2014 #26

Agreed! sub.theory Aug 2014 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #44

I don't think that would solve this... Agschmid Aug 2014 #35

Go get 'em tough guy. pa28 Aug 2014 #28

Agreed, Trumad. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #31

Whatever it takes? Nuclear bomb? You sure about that statement? n/t cui bono Aug 2014 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Aug 2014 #48

I wanna see you face EVERY civilian who would die tkmorris Aug 2014 #61

Tell me, delete_bush Aug 2014 #64

Dr. Strangelove I presume? NealK Aug 2014 #70

Even if you were one of them? Your family? RedCappedBandit Aug 2014 #94

And into the Heart of Darkness we go... deutsey Aug 2014 #98

Fucking hell, that's depraved. Nt a la izquierda Aug 2014 #111

That is fucking sick. Marr Aug 2014 #124

Funny that one who calls for such delete_bush Aug 2014 #148

After Germany surrendered, do you wish we had taken every remaining Nazi and executed them? Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #32

ISIS needs to be destroyed. tabasco Aug 2014 #33

Hope your wish comes true fadedrose Aug 2014 #36

i hate to be a freaking bleeding heart d_r Aug 2014 #41

No problem cleduc Aug 2014 #42

Bunch of nutbags Aerows Aug 2014 #45

These people are crazy. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #108

"god is not Great: How Religion Poisons everything" longship Aug 2014 #51

Atheism is looking better flamingdem Aug 2014 #65

ISIL MFM008 Aug 2014 #53

I know people who said we should have done that to the Confederates,...and the Klan. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #55

Can you name them? Were they in positions of authority? HuckleB Aug 2014 #59

No, they were 'hair on fire' activists like Thaddeus Stevens. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #60

This was the source of Southern reaction to the so called Carpetbaggers and Scalawags. gordianot Aug 2014 #67

It was a f-d up, complex situation. I don't get this whole line of attack. It seems ..... HuckleB Aug 2014 #76

I know a little about the Civil War who knows about what goes on with ISIS? gordianot Aug 2014 #84

I don't blame you... but, then... HuckleB Aug 2014 #58

I saw the beheading of James Foley, a journalist Aerows Aug 2014 #63

Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me? NealK Aug 2014 #66

trumad if you want to see how they think flamingdem Aug 2014 #68

Is Twitter not deleting the accounts after they are used to post those pictures? redqueen Aug 2014 #113

They did delete some and the twitter posts refer to flamingdem Aug 2014 #115

I See Hatred isn't Limited to RW Web Sites The River Aug 2014 #69

Well it's a protective reaction to barbaric treatment flamingdem Aug 2014 #74

Exactly, 1600 Years of Conflict The River Aug 2014 #82

Islam itself isn't 1600 years old... nt ProdigalJunkMail Aug 2014 #122

Wait until people find out who trained, funded and gave weapons to these rebels 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #78

I read that their $ was coming from Saudi Arabia redqueen Aug 2014 #117

is this Fox nation or freeperville? Doctor_J Aug 2014 #90

Let's get you signed up, tough guy! RandiFan1290 Aug 2014 #92

Why just ISIS? ALL Religions are the problem and create nothing but problems anyways have since man GiveEmEnoughRope Aug 2014 #95

Hey, maybe you can cut off their heads! Chathamization Aug 2014 #96

That group is just fucking evil incarnate. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #99

Agree get the red out Aug 2014 #103

Agreed 100%. NYC Liberal Aug 2014 #106

Killing people is how we got here, facing groups like ISIS. Orsino Aug 2014 #109

Couldn't agree more. Mojo Electro Aug 2014 #110

I didnt say it, but Thom Hartmann did today: this is exactly what they want GusBob Aug 2014 #114

I know I'm not one to talk, but trust me...I speak from experience... Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #116

+ 1000 Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #119

Would ISIS even exist if not for our decades-long wars in Iraq? redqueen Aug 2014 #118

yes maced666 Aug 2014 #133

Explain how. Iraq was a secular country before we decimated the country for oil. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #134

How can you tell who is ISIS and who is not? Yavin4 Aug 2014 #123

"if anyone insists on fighting our forces, he will be considered an ISIL militant whether he is or Chathamization Aug 2014 #135

I'm with you. mmonk Aug 2014 #127

“They all deserve to die” was the precise mentality behind the murder. N/T Chathamization Aug 2014 #132

True but when I say it, I'm talking about ISIS, not a whole country, mmonk Aug 2014 #152

this is the first thing that has happened that makes me want onecent Aug 2014 #128

I want a war with ISIS and I hate war fadedrose Aug 2014 #129

Yep, I agree. But I cannot believe I had never heard onecent Aug 2014 #131

Bewildered fadedrose Aug 2014 #143

Likewise. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2014 #142

Maybe if we just stayed out of their countries and their business we would not have to kill anyone. dilby Aug 2014 #140

The Kurds have been our staunchest ally fadedrose Aug 2014 #145

On the Ed Show right now guest says that we're screwed re: Isis flamingdem Aug 2014 #146

We could AnalystInParadise Aug 2014 #151

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