Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
47. The Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department?
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:15 AM
Aug 2014


[IMG][/IMG]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-arming-the-rebels/

NARRATOR: But in recent weeks, they have been receiving more sophisticated weapons. It appears the Obama administration is now allowing select groups of rebels like them to receive U.S.-made anti-tank missiles, known as TOWs. Many of the fighters have filmed themselves firing the missiles. In addition to receiving weapons, the commander says he and his men were taken on a long journey to a secret training camp.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] They asked for a group of 80 or 90 fighters from our command, and we headed towards the Turkish border.

NARRATOR: Based on their accounts, we retraced their journey across the border into Turkey. After a 14-hour drive, they say they arrived in the Turkish capital of Ankara and were brought to a hotel. They were kept inside and questioned by Americans, who would only say they were from the military. But the rebels believed they were from the CIA.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We met them for six to seven hours a day. It was medical examinations, questions for each person individually, like, “When did you join the uprising?” And “What was your profession or military rank?”

They had tracked our work and asked us to verify information about attacks we carried out, such as who was present and how many men were martyred. Your responses have to match the entire group’s.

NARRATOR: A week later, the rebels say they were surprised by what happened next.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We only found out where we were going to be trained on the last day in Ankara, when the Americans said goodbye and that, “Tomorrow, we’ll see you in Qatar.”

NARRATOR: They were flown 1,500 miles away to Doha, the capital of Qatar, which is a key U.S. ally in the Persian Gulf.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We drove for about two, two-and-a-half hours to reach the training ground. It was close to the Saudi border. We didn’t know where we were because it was desert all around.

NARRATOR: Over the course of three weeks, they say they were trained by Americans at a base in the desert guarded by Qatari soldiers. Like many of the rebels who were sent to Qatar, 21-year-old Hussein had never had any previous military training.

HUSSEIN: [through interpreter] They trained us to ambush regime or enemy vehicles and cut off the road. They also trained us on how to attack a vehicle, raid it, retrieve information or weapons and munitions, and how to finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush.

NARRATOR: The rebels were outfitted with brand-new uniforms and boots.

MUHAMMAD ALI: [subtitles] Those trousers are from them, right?

HUSSEIN: [subtitles] Yeah. We got these boots in training.

MUHAMMAD ALI: The Americans were warning the fighters not to tell this story at all. And even at one point, they told them, “If in any case this story will be published, we will stop funding you or arming you.”

NARRATOR: The CIA and the State Department declined to comment on the fighters’ accounts of arming and training, though the Obama administration has said it plans to step up support to the rebels, and there have been other reports the CIA is running covert training out of Jordan.
Need you ask. The friend of my enemy is sometimes my friend...especially if has lots of $$$$. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #1
Well apparently at least some of it is derived from ransom for hostages Duer 157099 Aug 2014 #2
It seems that most of it is ransom for hostages according to NBC News stevenleser Aug 2014 #15
He seemed curiously incurious. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #3
Apparently not "all" of it from Qatar as I assumed. Oil sales, ransoms, black mrket transactions. pinto Aug 2014 #4
Quatar, SA and Turkey being filtered through Kuwait. ballyhoo Aug 2014 #25
How about those pallet loads of American 100 dollar bills that "disappeared" in Iraq Clyde Tenson Aug 2014 #33
My guess is those billions, or whatever, are in Swiss bank accounts under Iraqi or dummy accounts. pinto Aug 2014 #38
My sense also -- a scam. With big backers. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #41
Yes, they never 'found' the 9 billion 'lost' by Bremer. But our very wealthy 'allies' in Saudi sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #45
+ 1,000 suffragette Aug 2014 #53
Yes, it does. The familiarity of it all makes you wonder too if they think sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #55
Yep, " special operations TTPs" catches the eye suffragette Aug 2014 #68
circling back as political contributions--to the Grand Oil Party librechik Aug 2014 #51
Assuming, of course, that we actually want to cut their funding. arcane1 Aug 2014 #5
Exactly! 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #6
Well put... I agree. SalviaBlue Aug 2014 #11
Are ISIL ignorant stone-age assholes? Of course. hifiguy Aug 2014 #13
You got it. It is a sham. ballyhoo Aug 2014 #26
Well, AQ wasn't working anymore, so now we have a new 'boogie man'. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #46
Saudi Arabia and Qatar iandhr Aug 2014 #7
Were I a spy or a private investigator, hifiguy Aug 2014 #8
They looted $400M in cash from Mosul. jeff47 Aug 2014 #9
Some of Chimpy's leftover and never-accounted for cash? hifiguy Aug 2014 #10
Probably not - it was still in Mosul. jeff47 Aug 2014 #14
The Willie Sutton principle at work. hifiguy Aug 2014 #20
Hmmm let's see oil rich nations that oppose Shia control of a nation GOLGO 13 Aug 2014 #12
2/3 of their current on-hand cash, plus a butt-load of gold bullion was stolen from northern Iraq du LanternWaste Aug 2014 #16
Why? because with the Iraq war over (that was the big money maker) the poor weapons Javaman Aug 2014 #17
See that sign on the corner? Says $3.71 a gallon? If instead it showed a graph of where that jtuck004 Aug 2014 #18
Bahrain. No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #19
By ransom-paying countries. They killed our journalist because we wouldn't pay up. pnwmom Aug 2014 #21
The $60 trillion ensconced in tax haven banks gets put to use in any/all dark economies. ancianita Aug 2014 #22
Right on the bull's eye. hifiguy Aug 2014 #24
I think they didn't invent this game, though. I think we're too quick to foreground others' games ancianita Aug 2014 #43
I've been preaching this on three boards. It's not being explored by government ballyhoo Aug 2014 #23
From what I heard it's being funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Cleita Aug 2014 #27
So, whatever came of that $9 billion cash that Bush misplaced somewhere in Iraq? world wide wally Aug 2014 #28
They are making a lot of it by kidnap ransom $$. Little Star Aug 2014 #29
Crazy thought mconnors Aug 2014 #30
An educated guess: blackspade Aug 2014 #31
Amazing....... ballyhoo Aug 2014 #32
Thank you. But not really. blackspade Aug 2014 #34
I was saying "amazing" because it was the only thing ballyhoo Aug 2014 #35
I gotcha! blackspade Aug 2014 #40
They fund themselves, largely with oil AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #36
We should follow the money - it's hard to launder those kinds of sums without help from banksters, grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #37
If the NSA and other world intels weren't working with them, we'd probably be able to find out. ancianita Aug 2014 #44
They have captured oil fields quaker bill Aug 2014 #39
And how do they do that? Running oil fields is a legitimate business, money has to go through sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #48
Exactly. Money flow is traceable. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #58
i think the guys who were beaten noticed. And, it was in all the news quaker bill Aug 2014 #65
Those oil fields were under the control of major Global Oil Corporations. The agreement that held up sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #67
"Global Oil Corporations" quaker bill Aug 2014 #69
And why hasn't jamzrockz Aug 2014 #70
I blame Japan - they sure love them Toyota trucks Baclava Aug 2014 #42
The Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department? 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #47
I wondered where they got all those flags, hollywood style 'uniforms' and the boots: sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #49
Wouldn't be a bit surprised. hifiguy Aug 2014 #54
finally, on post #47. this is what i have been reading about m-lekktor Aug 2014 #66
The TOWs jamzrockz Aug 2014 #71
they don't use banks. Money is sent hand to hand librechik Aug 2014 #50
Don't waste your breath greytdemocrat Aug 2014 #57
Because it's most likely incorrect and out of date. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #59
No, you can't. At some point the monies enter the system. Not to mention hiding an oil tanker in grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #61
'Cuz it's our "friends" in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. CanonRay Aug 2014 #52
Why is those who fund these terrorist not the first and main question at news conferences? gordianot Aug 2014 #56
Great questions! If we could only get you on MTP:) I'm sure Chuck will get ur back! grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #60
He could also ask his two co-hosts they must either know or have an opinion. gordianot Aug 2014 #62
When I heard Gen. Martin Dempsey say "Well Funded" twice KoKo Aug 2014 #63
Honestly? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if ISIS pulls this: Initech Aug 2014 #64
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»ISIS "tremendously w...»Reply #47