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In reply to the discussion: Why do I feel like Hillary is being forced on me? [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I think it is time for Americans to hear some truly progressive alternatives.
I think both Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders strongly support not just working people, but also small business owners and employees. And they, the owners and employees of small businesses are the voters who have been hit the hardest by our economic recession. They have not recovered yet. Many of them never will. They need to hear what progressive ideas could do to help them.
Small business owners bear an unfair share of the tax burden. They bear an unfair cost of the damage to the environment that big businesses impose on all of us.
I think that Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders message of fairness, economic justice, American values like rewarding hard work and not just social and business connections, making wealthy people play fair and pay their taxes, etc. would work better for America and appeal surprisingly well to voters. So i would like to see them run.
There may be other potential candidates that I don't know about, but I think Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders should get our support.
I'm tilted a bit more toward Elizabeth Warren if she decides to run. But Bernie really seems to be thinking about throwing his hat in the ring. Talk about experience and understanding the issues. Bernie cannot be beat. You might listen to him on his weekly appearance on Thom Hartmann's show. It's available on the internet. I listen to it on KPFK.
Accusations that the Hillary critics would support Rand Paul are just silly, just absurd. Would never happen. Paul's economic views are repugnant to the Democrats who do not support Hillary. Rand Paul would not have a chance with us. Nor would any other Republican.
If Hillary is the candidate, I will sit it out. I'm that opposed to her nomination. She made a mess of her campaign (with a lot of help from Bill Clinton) in 2008, and I don't think she could do better today.
It isn't so much that she is rich although she is. It's that she has no idea about how much richer she is than most Americans. She is just so used to the beltway and New York elite that the plight of middle America has escaped her. She cannot relate to it. Her statement to the effect of something about a family income of $200,000 or $150,000 being middle class -- and therefore should not be subject to payroll taxes. That may be accurate in New York City, Northern Virginia or parts of California (but not even in those places) but it is way off the mark for most of the US especially the South.
No. Hillary should not be the candidate. Elizabeth Warren would be excellent. Bernie Sanders would also be great. Depends on who is willing to risk running. Bernie Sanders knows and understands everything about middle America and has far more experience with regard to the issues than any other potential candidate in either party. Elizabeth Warren has warmth, charm and deep understanding of the economic issues that are strangling most American families. But Elizabeth Warren is not making the same moves to run that Hillary and Bernie Sanders are. They are going to Iowa and New Hampshire in the next few weeks.
Sorry. I'm long-winded and I type fast so I submit long posts. If you didn't make it through to the end, that's fine. I probably repeated myself. It is 12:55 a.m. here in L.A. No, I don't drink. I'm just tired.