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In reply to the discussion: Rumination on misogyny. [View all]hfojvt
(37,573 posts)when a male makes a charge of misandry?
Further, is that how the arguments went? I mean, I was not here to see them. If, however, I was to read a thread where a female was saying "I have seen a lot of misogyny on DU" I would probably ask for examples, because clearly it does not jump out at me.
I mean, I generally read DU every day, or at least parts of it. I have asserted, and stand by it, that 90% of DU does not read 90% of DU. There are, after all, about 10,000 posts per day on DU. If somebody read 1,000 of them they'd likely be doing a whole lot of reading and that would only be 10% of the total. Nobody sees it all, we all see a different portion of the elephant even though we are NOT blind.
But if I am reading 3-500 posts per day and cannot remember even THREE examples that struck me as misogynist, then what am I supposed to believe? Somebody else, or my own lying eyes?
Quite possible that I am insensitive to it even when it bites me in the a$$. I have my own sensitivities, but am not a big fan of misogyny. Way back when somebody came to the lounge and complained that their joke was not well received in GD and the punchline was that French bicyclists rode like "little girls" and I kinda peed in his cornflakes by explaining that his "joke" was NOT funny.
But I was going to mention my own sensitivity. Much of my childhood I had low blood count - I was anemic. Most people are probably unaware but the word 'anemic' is fairly regularly used as a pejorative in writing and in speech. I notice this because it never fails to slightly raise the hackles on my neck when I see it. Other people, like I said, don't even notice it.
And another point is on focus. Take, once again, the 10,000 daily posts of DU and take 30 DUers reading them at random. Collectively they could read all of them. And suppose they were all very vigilant and when they saw a misogynist post in their reading they would start a thread about it in a DU group titled something like "another example of misogyny". Then people who frequented that group would certainly be seeing a lot of misogyny especially if misogyny was broadly defined.
I mean, come on, I read one thread where sexism was defined, in part as "disagree with me/us about the Hobby Lobby decision and it's relative importance".
And that is one of my main points - can we not just disagree? Do we have to fall into where "disagree with me and you are not just wrong, you are evil"?
But that's what Vonnegut anemically wrote "Ideas on earth are badges of friendship. Friends agree with friends in order to express friendliness. Enemies disagree with enemies in order to express enmity."
I think that is from Galopagas, but I might be evil.
I might also not know how to spell Galopagas and be too lazy to look it up.