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davidn3600

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Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:07 PM Sep 2014

Concern growing that Putin may try to cause problems in Estonia [View all]

President Obama last week reaffirmed the United States’ commitment to the security of Estonia, one of a handful of small former Soviet states bordering Russia that have joined the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Two days later, according to the Estonian government, Russian agents crossed the border, and using smoke grenades and radio jamming devices, kidnapped an officer of the country’s Internal Security Service.

The officer, Eston Kohver, appeared later that day in Moscow, where he was charged with spying and carrying an illegal handgun, according to the British Broadcasting Corporation. Russia claims that Kohver was arrested on Russian soil, but Estonian officials claim that not only is this untrue, but that Kohver appears to have walked into a trap set by Russia’s security service, the FSB.

The alleged kidnapping of Kohver has increased tensions among the independent states in Europe and Asia that were once part of the Soviet Union. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula this summer, and its ongoing support, including troops and weaponry, of rebels in Eastern Ukraine has many concerned that Russian President Vladimir Putin intends to reunite the former Soviet Union by force.

In remarks at the opening of the Estonian Parliament on Monday, President Toomas Hendrik Ilves said that Russia’s aggression in Ukraine has revealed its true intent.

“The masks have fallen,” he said. “We see how Russia continues to isolate itself from democratic nations.” Addressing the taking of the security officer, he said, “Russian security service FSB kidnapped an Estonian citizen from Estonian soil and took him to a prison in Moscow and even bans the Estonian consul from meeting the Estonian citizen.”


http://news.yahoo.com/why-estonia-might-next-putin-093000225.html

Putin is absolutely determined to reclaim the territory the Soviet Union had. And this is an INCREDIBLY dangerous game he's playing.

Just so everyone is aware of the stakes here....Article 5 of the NATO treaty states than any attack on one member nation is considered an attack on all. If Russia attacks Estonia (a full NATO member)....by law, NATO is at war with Russia. World War 3.
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Russia is a gangster state, engaging in theft, kidnapping,and racketeering geek tragedy Sep 2014 #1
I have relatives in Estonia LiberalEsto Sep 2014 #2
We spent the day in Tallinn last May as one stop on a Baltic cruise. mnhtnbb Sep 2014 #5
I looked for you when the President was in Estonia, LiberalEsto! It was quite the visit..I hope Cha Sep 2014 #15
A lot of things could happen between now ballyhoo Sep 2014 #22
I know this will not be a popular opinion.. sendero Sep 2014 #3
While I agree in general with your premise, I think that an attack on a NATO member kelly1mm Sep 2014 #4
He's not going to do... sendero Sep 2014 #7
Difference is that any monkey business inside Estonia can be dealt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #8
Well Putin did basically steal Crimea from Ukraine and make it part of Russia proper. Can't really kelly1mm Sep 2014 #10
Khruschev stole it from Russia in 1956 without a vote eridani Sep 2014 #24
And the 1994 Bucharest Agreement on Ukraine giving up its nukes stated that Russia (and the US/UK) kelly1mm Sep 2014 #26
In real life, Scotland is voting on leaving GB very soon. eridani Sep 2014 #30
I know about Scotland - it looks like they may indeed leave the UK. I have mixed feelings I supose kelly1mm Sep 2014 #31
Bingo. The GOP hates that treaties are the law of the land, until they need to be TLoTL.. sir pball Sep 2014 #28
Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine aren't NATO members. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #9
Thanks once again for your analysis, Benton. I do feel bad for the Russian People. Cha Sep 2014 #16
It actually amazes me how much Obama and I think alike on this. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #38
thank goodness more are on to what Putin is actually doing instead what his RT Cha Sep 2014 #39
Merkel also presented a plan for greater autonomy within a Ukrainian federation eridani Sep 2014 #25
Ukraine was not an initiative that had much to do with Obama. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #13
You got that right. Even if Putin attacks a NATO member it ballyhoo Sep 2014 #19
You have in the past accused Obama of inciting a coup in Ukraine but now he is a lame duck stevenleser Sep 2014 #21
Consistency? We don't need no steenkin' consistency!! TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #27
In the event of an attack on a NATO member, I expect sir pball Sep 2014 #29
There is a greater chance of a meteor landing in your back yard. If ballyhoo Sep 2014 #32
An attack on NATO or a response? sir pball Sep 2014 #34
The whole point of the treaty is to protect Europe from Russia davidn3600 Sep 2014 #37
Don't believe it for a second. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #6
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #11
Okay, I'm starting to think this may have something to do with Russia's depopulation problem. politicat Sep 2014 #12
RUS co's hire oil/gas geoscientists & engineers from India, China, and Nigeria (as well as the US) elehhhhna Sep 2014 #14
Yes, but supply. politicat Sep 2014 #17
Interesting info - thank you elehhhhna Sep 2014 #18
Cordoned off... politicat Sep 2014 #20
and here we go elehhhhna Sep 2014 #40
Mmmm.... Yep, mostly, according to sib. politicat Sep 2014 #41
I'm shocked we'd do anything against any Exxon partners... elehhhhna Sep 2014 #43
I highly doubt it. cheapdate Sep 2014 #23
Depends on how far their dictator can fuel nationalism and hatred for minorities. Rex Sep 2014 #33
Maybe the Topol M missile launch, the repeated T-95 sorties Anansi1171 Sep 2014 #35
He's playing a very dangerous game, despite what his "army of internet trolls" say to the contrary. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #36
It's a good job CJCRANE Sep 2014 #42
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