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45. I'm not criticizing the families.

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 03:30 PM

Sep 2014

Not sure how much more clear I can be on that.

Point I am making is that the government's duty to protect extends to all Americans. Not just these victims--there's a duty to not make more kidnappings more likely, and to not provide a group like ISIL with the means to continue its abhorrent record.

I can't imagine the horror of the families have suffered.

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Was it wrong to prosecute Oliver North for trading arms for hostages? [View all] geek tragedy Sep 2014 OP

what inspired this poll? cali Sep 2014 #1

People are aghast that Obama refused to allow ransom to be paid geek tragedy Sep 2014 #3

The family may be prosecuted. You ok with that? Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #5

They weren't because they didn't fund ISIL. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #7

Just keep digging. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #10

It was accurate advice. They would be guilty of a criminal act geek tragedy Sep 2014 #12

It was unsolicited advice for a government agency. In other words, a threat. morningfog Sep 2014 #63

I can't imagine actual prosecution. Shrike47 Sep 2014 #60

perhaps, but this was done to these families as they were desperately trying Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #64

I think comparing what North did to these families is horrible. cali Sep 2014 #14

Not comparing the families, I am comparing the justifications of sending geek tragedy Sep 2014 #21

I don't think there would have been any approach that could have been made to those pnwmom Sep 2014 #49

I did not vote in this poll due to the "Apples and Oranges" rule... ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #2

Oh for fuck sake. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #4

Really. Funneling arms to Hezbollah and Iran wasn't considered geek tragedy Sep 2014 #6

You should fix your fucked poll. That was not North's contribution. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #8

How is financing the contras worse than financing ISIL? nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #9

A government official engaged in corrupt practices is no different Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #11

Money going to terrorists is money going to terrorists. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #13

the motivations are entirely different and should be taken into consideration cali Sep 2014 #20

I would go mad with grief probably. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #22

I agree. North went far beyond trading arms for hostages. Lochloosa Sep 2014 #16

sucky poll. disgusting comparison of grieving families to a right wing nut job criminal. cali Sep 2014 #15

The families did nothing wrong. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #18

Because selling arms to Iran was against federal law and a President is supposed to merrily Sep 2014 #25

So is funding ISIL. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #26

They did NOT fund IS. You're right. Let's give the bereaved the death penalty for nothing. merrily Sep 2014 #28

Where did I say anything bad about geek tragedy Sep 2014 #29

The Obama administration traded high value terrorists for Bergdahl. cali Sep 2014 #17

So you think we should have paid the ransom? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #19

Are you making a label-based argument? ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #31

Status, not label. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #32

I don't understand ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #33

Label implies no meaningful difference. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #35

Isn't meaning in these situations subjective? ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #39

Science? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #42

I'm sorry. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #66

Jesus Fucking Christ dude, seriously? tkmorris Sep 2014 #23

It is an offensive post. It shows how far some will sink. morningfog Sep 2014 #43

Ollie North did not get prosecuted for paying ransom for hostages. merrily Sep 2014 #24

North should still be in prison, but the families of hostages should not be prosecuted. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #27

No one has said that and no one is likely to say it. randome Sep 2014 #53

If I were a family member, I would ignore US government threats and do what I could... Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #55

I probably would, too. randome Sep 2014 #57

North? Reagan should have gone to jail for Iran Contra. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #30

I was going to vote yes, but changed my vote. Jamastiene Sep 2014 #34

How about Macfarlane? nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #36

One of the worst apples to oranges comparisons that I've seen. Rex Sep 2014 #37

The families committed no crime . geek tragedy Sep 2014 #38

Who are we to sit and judge them? They didn't run for office Rex Sep 2014 #41

I'm not criticizing the families. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #45

True, but you know as well as I do "we don't negotiate with terrorists". Rex Sep 2014 #46

Amazing how supporting dictators never geek tragedy Sep 2014 #48

Defense contractors don't care who they sell their arms to. Rex Sep 2014 #51

Carter's record wasn't perfect. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #52

Maybe it also explains why some of them (GOP) are Pooty Poot lovers. Rex Sep 2014 #54

Russia is the ultimate red state. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #58

I don't agree with the current administration on this subject. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #40

Wow. Absurd AND slimy. woo me with science Sep 2014 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author MFrohike Sep 2014 #47

Oh. Good one. randome Sep 2014 #50

it's all about Obama Enrique Sep 2014 #56

Or convoluted rationalizations to see his Admin as full of heartless monsters. Like ISIS. randome Sep 2014 #59

North did not trade arms for the "release" of hostages randr Sep 2014 #61

Different hostages. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #62

Oh it is worse than that - he used the hostage deal to funnel arms to the Contras. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #65

Is it wrong to laugh at a stupid polling question? n/t U4ikLefty Sep 2014 #67