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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders: Presidential Run Is Not About Hillary, It’s About The ‘Collapsing’ Middle Class [View all]kansasobama
(1,110 posts)175. Again, Democrats getting ready to shoot themselves- thanks to Bernie
Bernie Sanders makes sense but running for President does not do anything. He needs to be firing up voters around the states in 2014. This is not about 2016.
By the way, I do not like it but fact are facts. Conservative voters outperform us. We just find a way to get disconnected and we do not know how to take small steps.
Bernie will do a Ralph Nader and 2016 will go to GOP.
This is looking like 1992, 1994, 1996 and 2000.
People do not learn from history.
For us to succeed, we need a liberal Congress and a moderate-left President. The liberal Congress should talk moderate but gradually enact liberal policies.
Our emotions and impatience and lack of strategy is our downfall.
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Bernie Sanders: Presidential Run Is Not About Hillary, It’s About The ‘Collapsing’ Middle Class [View all]
Purveyor
Sep 2014
OP
Sanders should run as a Democrat in the primaries. I'd vote for him over Hillary, who is to the
Louisiana1976
Sep 2014
#1
I hope he does. I don't agree with him but on only a few issues and he would indeed
Purveyor
Sep 2014
#2
If it's the general, deciding not to vote for the Dem is a boost for the Rethug, whoever he is,
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#14
Historically, yes. But if Sen Sanders has the numbers to win, is vote independent as well.
grahamhgreen
Sep 2014
#109
You'd rather throw your vote away on a candidate who can't win than vote for someone
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#94
You seem to think that hacking off four fingers is better than hacking off five fingers.
FlatStanley
Sep 2014
#166
"she's still better than the Repug alternative" - And this logic here is exactly how the Kochs win
Veilex
Sep 2014
#143
So if Hillary is running against Ted Cruise or Ben Carson, God's chosen candidate,
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#4
Yeah...wow. If the Party can't nominate a 'progressive' why should I cast a vote
Purveyor
Sep 2014
#7
Ah yes, the lesser of evils manipulation that some of you fall for. The PTB want H. Clinton and have
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#86
"I don't think you looked very hard" - or perhaps confirmation bias got in the way.
Veilex
Sep 2014
#186
No. His appeal he got Medicare for all in Vermont. Burlington is now 100% renewable energy. He audit
grahamhgreen
Sep 2014
#176
Scripted personas for sure. Note how they frame the debate as bernie vs Hill, instead if on the
grahamhgreen
Sep 2014
#177
Sure, because "on the issues" Bernie wins. Can't permit that discussion to ensue.
NorthCarolina
Sep 2014
#179
Voting for president Obama twice was exciting. Voting for Bernie would be exciting as well. K&R
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2014
#21
I believe, in their excitement at the prospect of not having to vote for Hillary Clinton,
BlueCaliDem
Sep 2014
#29
Exactly....I do believe these are the dregs that come here just to start trouble....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#32
I've read similar posts on other sites like the anti-HRC ones on this thread alone.
BlueCaliDem
Sep 2014
#38
Start 'alerting then' and notify MIRT. This place will get damn quiet and lonely in a hurry, indeed
Purveyor
Sep 2014
#30
One that has a potential progressive candidate that may become a democratic candidate to
Purveyor
Sep 2014
#41
this is also not Progressive Underground....but you can start that blog if you want...
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#43
OK. You are slipping off the rail now so I'll let you have the last illogical word
Purveyor
Sep 2014
#45
being in support of the third party candidate....and Bernie qualifies....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#49
Wrong. Remember the Charlie Crist Independent run in FL? There was a Democrat in
kelly1mm
Sep 2014
#62
No not wrong.....I just posted the exact words....which includes NEVER....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#64
Simple question: Were OP's and threads supporting third party candidate Charlie Crist allowed on DU
kelly1mm
Sep 2014
#71
"...we're not going to do anything about 2016 talk until well into 2016."
winter is coming
Sep 2014
#53
So? This proves what? you only have ONE piece of evidence with which I am to draw your conclusion
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#77
Your putative "evidence" is an excerpt from the TOS that you don't seem to understand.
winter is coming
Sep 2014
#81
Unless it's Charlie Crist or (maybe) Bernie Sanders? The precident has been set already on DU.nt
kelly1mm
Sep 2014
#82
I don't think Bernie would do well in the debates, he has a hard time in Townhall meetings.
Thinkingabout
Sep 2014
#28
You could say the same for Chris Christie "wins" also, it may work in their state but it does not
Thinkingabout
Sep 2014
#124
My money is on Bernie. He has a hard time because telling the truth is touchy. Many don't
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#127
Many don't like to be treated as he does his constituents, he claims democracy when he speaks
Thinkingabout
Sep 2014
#138
He is ugly in a townhall meeting and when backed into a corner he yells "shut up", if
Thinkingabout
Sep 2014
#145
I am familiar with the single case you are referring to and sympathize with
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#146
He either has to keep his hat on and wear it, there will be other times where this will happen.
Thinkingabout
Sep 2014
#152
there IS no Coronation....there IS however a Primary...Some folks just have better numbers
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2014
#37
Note that they never ask Hillary whether she should run because Candidate X is or might be running.
Uncle Joe
Sep 2014
#141
It's truly Ironic, North Carolina, that our nation was founded on breaking away from royalty
Uncle Joe
Sep 2014
#165
Neither party works for the average citizen. The Dems will tinker about the edges
NorthCarolina
Sep 2014
#172
"...anger at the media establishment." I imagine that one slipped right by Mr. Media Establishment,
scarletwoman
Sep 2014
#57
Bernie Sanders has been underestimated before -- his winning as mayor of Burlington VT was unlikely
karynnj
Sep 2014
#120
It choice is simple. If you want to fix the ever growing inequality problem, pick Sanders.
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#128
But I heard that the Clintons are "dead broke." Surely that must qualify them as one of the 99%?????
blkmusclmachine
Sep 2014
#150