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In reply to the discussion: In 2012 the US had a $7 million bounty on the guy Greenwald is claiming Obama invented two weeks ago [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)46. MCarthy's book is titled "Building the political case for Obama's Impeachment"
That's not the kind of person who should ever be quoted by anyone when they are claiming that the President has committed . . . an impeachable offense.
As far as Greenwald being a recovering white nationalist, see this impassioned defense from him of . . . Tom Tancredo.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/12/yelling-racist-as-argument-in.html
So, theres Willis' self-satisfied decree, in its vapid entirety. According to Willis (and many of Drum's commentators, if not Drum himself), anyone who believes that its important for a nation to be comprised of citizens who have at least some joint national allegiance and a minimal common foundation -- never mind a common language in which they can communicate with one another -- is a White Supremacist bigot.
Leave aside the political stupidity of labeling as bigots and racists a huge portion of the electorate which is becoming increasingly concerned about illegal immigration and which agrees with Tancredos sentiments. More important than the political self-destruction, Willis cheap name-calling -- a crude tactic wielded by many like him -- is substantively vacuous.
There are, needless to say, some people who oppose illegal immigration due to racist or xenophobic sentiments, but you can find some people who advocate almost any perfectly innocuous position who do so with malignant motives. There are, for instance, people who oppose tax cuts because they are socialists, and there are people who criticize Israel and sympathize with Palestinians because they are anti-Semitic, and there are people who favor abortion because they are racists and thereby favor anything which would result in fewer minority babies being born.
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Current illegal immigration whereby unmanageably endless hordes of people pour over the border in numbers far too large to assimilate, and who consequently have no need, motivation or ability to assimilate renders impossible the preservation of any national identity. That is so for reasons having nothing whatever to do with the skin color or origin of the immigrants and everything to do with the fact that what we end up with are segregated groups of people with allegiences to their enclaves, an inability to communicate, cultural perspectives incompatible with prevailing American culture, and absolutely nothing to bind them in any way to what we know as the United States.
Leave aside the political stupidity of labeling as bigots and racists a huge portion of the electorate which is becoming increasingly concerned about illegal immigration and which agrees with Tancredos sentiments. More important than the political self-destruction, Willis cheap name-calling -- a crude tactic wielded by many like him -- is substantively vacuous.
There are, needless to say, some people who oppose illegal immigration due to racist or xenophobic sentiments, but you can find some people who advocate almost any perfectly innocuous position who do so with malignant motives. There are, for instance, people who oppose tax cuts because they are socialists, and there are people who criticize Israel and sympathize with Palestinians because they are anti-Semitic, and there are people who favor abortion because they are racists and thereby favor anything which would result in fewer minority babies being born.
...
Current illegal immigration whereby unmanageably endless hordes of people pour over the border in numbers far too large to assimilate, and who consequently have no need, motivation or ability to assimilate renders impossible the preservation of any national identity. That is so for reasons having nothing whatever to do with the skin color or origin of the immigrants and everything to do with the fact that what we end up with are segregated groups of people with allegiences to their enclaves, an inability to communicate, cultural perspectives incompatible with prevailing American culture, and absolutely nothing to bind them in any way to what we know as the United States.
So, you see, when Greenwald launched impassioned defenses of Ron Paul "he's not a racist!" well some of us knew why.
He's recovering white nationalist crackpot.
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In 2012 the US had a $7 million bounty on the guy Greenwald is claiming Obama invented two weeks ago [View all]
geek tragedy
Sep 2014
OP
This is why people have gotta be careful about taking Greenwald's snake oil. nt
Cali_Democrat
Sep 2014
#3
people who are emotionally invested in hating the President consciously decide
geek tragedy
Sep 2014
#4
But of course that's not what Greenwald's said. You already know this.
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2014
#5
I will bet you have no good explanation for why Greenwald cited Andrew McCarthy's claim
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#11
The words are there for everyone to read. I did forget this line of Greenwald's:
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#10
just like there are people who hate Obama so much they believe that a grand crime against
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#30
I didn't miss Will Pitt's post, and you can take that up with him (again)
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2014
#71
Those same people also don't understand that people of varying/differing political
cui bono
Oct 2014
#75
"There are serious questions about whether the Khorasan Group even exists . . . " n/t
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#47
MCarthy's book is titled "Building the political case for Obama's Impeachment"
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#46
The title of his article was "the fake terror threat used to justify bombing syria"
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#89
Or maybe he was "aware"? He knows there's a certain element who will believe anything
Cha
Oct 2014
#12
He claimed Obama 'concoctred' the Khorosan group to provide legal justification
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#52
Looking every where for a mention of the Khorasan Group. Not finding it.
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#14
Greenwald is saying the entire terror threat and the existence of the group
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#22
I've got nothing but sympathy for you. Really. You can't fill Prosense's shoes.
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#37
The title of his article was "the fake terror threat used to justify bombing syria"
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#41
They'll never get it.. it must be strange to stick ones head in the sand and keep repeating
Cha
Oct 2014
#63
GG is a dumba$$ winger and his fans can't handle that.. so they try using what they think are
Cha
Oct 2014
#43
"Nothing in this post goes against Democrats and the Alerter, clearly a GG fan, needs to grow a
Cha
Oct 2014
#82
he is the guy we bombed, right? Greenwald is claiming there was no terrorist threat or need
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#24
Greenwald is saying this was a scam, sham, concoction, and fake by the US government.
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#27
Your story changes and changes the further one reads down the thread.
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2014
#29
Greenwald is saying there was no terrorist threat in that area. that Obama's claim that there were
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#31
Where the US bombed "Khorosan"--he referred to Khorosan as a "fake terror threat"
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#92
Greenwald is denying that there was any kind of terrorist threat in the area.
geek tragedy
Oct 2014
#34