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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:48 PM

26. Is 'Negative Nationalism' similiar to this?

The majority of pacifists either belong to obscure religious sects or are simply humanitarians who object to taking life and prefer not to follow their thoughts beyond that point. But there is a minority of intellectual pacifists, whose real though unacknowledged motive appears to be hatred of western democracy and admiration for totalitarianism. Pacifist propaganda usually boils down to saying that one side is as bad as the other, but if one looks closely at the writing of the younger intellectual pacifists, one finds that they do not by any means express impartial disapproval but are directed almost entirely against Britain and the United States…

~ George Orwell

Would the first sentence explain the opposition to any government action, and negate a 'just war,' even if in self-defense?

Because it appears no one believes there was ever any 'just war.' Of course, most of us would simply prefer no war to exist. And I suspect there will never be a WW3, as it could never be organized due to lack of resources. But in its stead, will be small, brutal conflicts that people will justify, excuse or ignore unless they see a gun in their own face.

Would the premise of the second sentence describe people who admire Putin or other strong men - just the simplicity of it all?

The third sentence appears to be all that matters now. Hitler = Roosevelt = Stalin = Bush = Obama in current conspiracy theories. Because of LIHOP. It is defended with vehemence.

There is a place where critical thinking is stymied by a reactive emotion and why discussions on these matters end up being not discussions, but brawls and namecalling.

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