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elias7

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73. Thanks for that

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 07:54 AM

Oct 2014

As a medical person, I can say that your perspective is exactly how it works (in my experience). Those who are quick to condemn are not attuned to process.

We have been given info recently on Chikungunya, Enterovirus #68 and Ebola, as well as a recent Listeria outbreak. You keep a high index of suspicion for patients and stories that fall outside of expectations or are unusual and then expand your differential diagnosis. You educate yourself as to how to recognize the risk factors. Then you hope you are not so busy and overwhelmed on your shift that you can pay attention to things that just don't fit.

It seems a little strange to me that Ebola possibility was not picked up, but then again, I am in New Hampshire, and an African person with a fever would ring bells...

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Anyone else irked at the way Texas wants to charge the man with ebola with a crime? [View all] diabeticman Oct 2014 OP

I wonder who will charge Dallas with being such royal fuckups. nt valerief Oct 2014 #1

Seems to me it was the hospital, elleng Oct 2014 #5

And the infected apartment. valerief Oct 2014 #7

Yeah, My wife--meaning no disrespect to DU Texasens-- Said that IF ebola had to be found in diabeticman Oct 2014 #6

meaning no respect? marym625 Oct 2014 #12

sorry.. Meaning no disrespect. diabeticman Oct 2014 #13

I figured that is what you meant to write marym625 Oct 2014 #15

How in the holy FUCK do you charge 'Dallas' with something? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #21

Who kept the host family in an infected contagious apartment for days, exposing them uppityperson Oct 2014 #24

Man, are we going to need a lot of handcuffs for that frogmarch. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #26

I'm not teeing off on Dallas, but on those who have mishandled this. Surely you can see uppityperson Oct 2014 #29

I'm going to guess that policies and procedures have been updated all over as a result of this. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #31

I certainly hope so. nt uppityperson Oct 2014 #32

i agree with you... seabeyond Oct 2014 #36

Thanks for that elias7 Oct 2014 #73

Apparently, he signed some paperwork yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #35

I believe that paper was in the Liberia airport which we dont have jurisdiction davidn3600 Oct 2014 #46

Thank you for the update yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #47

It is Liberia that's charging him. defacto7 Oct 2014 #48

The mayor has spoken. cwydro Oct 2014 #77

I am. elleng Oct 2014 #2

Absolutely not. Jenoch Oct 2014 #3

If he lied about being exposed before he got into the US, then no. That should be a crime. BillZBubb Oct 2014 #4

Not at all. LisaL Oct 2014 #8

Are they? LeftInTX Oct 2014 #9

What do you mean? Thanks. uppityperson Oct 2014 #10

I'll go with my old stand by. Aerows Oct 2014 #11

He knew he had been exposed marym625 Oct 2014 #14

he told them, he came from liberia. said nothing about contact with a victim, to the point of her seabeyond Oct 2014 #37

You and me both. IMHO, if he survives, deportation and kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #43

I thought he only came here on a visitor's visa? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #63

Prove that. Barack_America Oct 2014 #51

because they took her to the Ebola ward in the hospital in Liberia TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #66

I have read... sendero Oct 2014 #67

I can totally see why he didn't TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #69

After she was turned away from the only OB clinic in the country... Barack_America Oct 2014 #68

You're right marym625 Oct 2014 #72

He put many lives at risk knowing he was exposed. alphafemale Oct 2014 #16

Should the Powers that be be charged with endangerment by keeping the host family inside that uppityperson Oct 2014 #17

the family knowingly exposed themselves. should we prosecute them for putting themselves in danger? seabeyond Oct 2014 #38

What? The host family had a guest visit who got sick and then were prevented from uppityperson Oct 2014 #40

If he suspected he had it... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #18

Thank goodness speculations are not admissible as evidence. longship Oct 2014 #19

Maybe not. But... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #22

Then it would be fact, not speculation. But it isn't there yet. uppityperson Oct 2014 #25

Agreed. N/t. Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #28

Actually the Dallas County DA is Democrat Craig Watkins Stallion Oct 2014 #20

No. 840high Oct 2014 #23

I thought it was Liberia that was charging him... Historic NY Oct 2014 #27

It is. defacto7 Oct 2014 #49

Depends on the circumstances. davidthegnome Oct 2014 #30

and since he had bought his ticket SoCalDem Oct 2014 #39

do you think the man might have clued the nurse in, that he was with a person recently who died of seabeyond Oct 2014 #41

He had a duty to say that to someone's face in plain English, IMHO. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #44

he never stated he was around ebola. he knew by syaing liberia, what they were asking. and STILL seabeyond Oct 2014 #45

I don't think he knew he was infected. Kalidurga Oct 2014 #33

There's a whole lot of people jumping to conclusions Mariana Oct 2014 #52

It doesn't even matter to me. Live and Learn Oct 2014 #59

Good points Kalidurga Oct 2014 #78

Well... 2naSalit Oct 2014 #34

Not at all. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #42

How about a link defacto7 Oct 2014 #50

There was an interview on one of the msnbc shows today with a Texas official who Stardust Oct 2014 #53

There's only one article I can find defacto7 Oct 2014 #54

What? I've heard nothing about this. Liberia is saying they're going press charges, but Texas? herding cats Oct 2014 #55

Because putting a sick person behind bars will solve..anything? BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #56

+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2014 #58

I am. I think it makes perfect sense to have done what he did. Live and Learn Oct 2014 #57

How many folks condemning him newfie11 Oct 2014 #70

Texas wants to? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #60

so it's fine to knowingly expose the population to a deadly virus DrDan Oct 2014 #61

Link? I only know Liberia wants to. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #62

Nope Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #64

No. Not if he lied under oath to get on that airplane, an act which could endanger countless others. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #65

so does Liberia. He lied on his exit interview, claiming he had not been in contact magical thyme Oct 2014 #71

Rumor mongering irks me. How many times will you ignore requests for a link to prove what you say Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #74

I think you may be confused. MineralMan Oct 2014 #75

I hadn't heard that. I did read that officials in Liberia wanted to charge him notadmblnd Oct 2014 #76

Thats what we do here, charge people with crimes. Saboburns Oct 2014 #79